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FudgeFish said:
The thing I never get with this response - and I'm seeing it everywhere, from both sides - is that does nobody actually enjoy drawing?

The actual process of drawing, or painting - whatever - is enjoyable. It's meditative. It's enjoyable in terms of the finished product, it's enjoyable in terms of observing your own skill level improve and increase over time. Everyone discussing the AI art stuff - people with artistic skill and those without - talk about it as if it's some terrible hardship being inflicted on them. AI has also started writing music, but I don't see musicians freaking out about it, or allowing it to take away what it is they love about playing.

I get why people without the ability to draw anything might think this, but it's bizarre that people with some skill think the same way.
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I would guess that as most people seek instant gratification from visual media on the Internet ( preferring media like animation and images over say, a forum thread) online artists have come to think of themselves as special, content creators, that kind of thing. Especially since they can make money through YouTube channels, commissions, etc.

Thus, there is no consideration about the enjoyment of drawing, because their upset isn't about that. It's about not being able to declare that you're special by calling yourself an artist anymore, since a program can presumably do your job now.

Idk about musicians as a comparison, but I can say that I don't see them getting on their high horses in comment sections nearly as much as I do artists.
 
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Monkey Pink said:
I've already posted this in the AI Art Seething Thread, however I humbly present to you: The Reddit Suicide Wall.

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I like the last one with "the AI is not a tool". Those people must be living in some Skynet reality where the machines have already done their version of Sistine Chapel. Artist is not about combinatorics or being able to draw a direct line. It's about imagination and ability to see the world differently. I dare the author of the last comment to look at Breugel. The drawing seems to be simple but that is not what makes Breugel a genius.

In a year or two all art software will have elements of the AI implemented. Stop whining and start learning.
 
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Fenno McLeod said:
Idk about musicians as a comparison, but I can say that I don't see them getting on their high horses in comment sections nearly as much as I do artists.
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Music software has been out there since the 90s that made your shit better. Not even talking about messing with pitch or whatever, but on its own fixing whatever fuck ups you made. Saying nothing about the overall quality of modern music, obviously songwriters and other non-performers still make tons of cash despite this.
 
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all so true, you only forgot to say that they one person the redditor hates more than any other is he himself
Uberpenguin said:
As to Reddit specifically though they do probably hate men, because Reddit hates everyone. It's a hive of some of the most bitter, unhappy, lost people you'd ever meet. The only time they'll claim to like or support anything is if they believe it will actively hurt someone/something they feel threatened by.
Even the transexuals clearly hate each other and root for each other to fail, the only reason people claim to support trans rights is because it's a cudgel to use against anyone who you resent, including families with children and people who aren't miserable in general.
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FudgeFish said:
The thing I never get with this response - and I'm seeing it everywhere, from both sides - is that does nobody actually enjoy drawing?

The actual process of drawing, or painting - whatever - is enjoyable. It's meditative. It's enjoyable in terms of the finished product, it's enjoyable in terms of observing your own skill level improve and increase over time. Everyone discussing the AI art stuff - people with artistic skill and those without - talk about it as if it's some terrible hardship being inflicted on them. AI has also started writing music, but I don't see musicians freaking out about it, or allowing it to take away what it is they love about playing.

I get why people without the ability to draw anything might think this, but it's bizarre that people with some skill think the same way.
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Because these people aren't artists for the art, they draw porn and just want money from it.
 
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JustTheFaxcts said:
Good find, there's quite a few gems of crazy that only Redditors can produce.

Teacher that has become "angry all the time" and "suicidal" (which needs to be censored for some reason):
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Faggy acronyms that get mentioned for how to deal with family who disagree:
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Calling for policing of "COVID Minimizer talk":
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Covid is so dangerous that people can have it 3 times, yet still somehow don't care:
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Same person, who can't make the logical connection that Covid's not that serious if people can "ignore and downplay symptoms":
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Anyone up for a walk together...while completely separated? The poster is also lonely for some reason:
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They seem to like referencing this paper (archive), which ties Long SARS to Long Covid. It appears to be a legitimate paper although they did not have all the data from the original study, and the sample sizes are small (50) and biased (Only healthcare workers). Also, odd random inserts such as:
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Minimizer is their favorite buzzword, in fact one of them is on youtube...
Not archiving because it's too pozzed.
 
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Fenno McLeod said:
Idk about musicians as a comparison, but I can say that I don't see them getting on their high horses in comment sections nearly as much as I do artists.
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My last tangent on the topic - but you're likely thinking about 'actual' musicians who make actual music that people want to listen to. Besides those, there's a whole industry of people churning out shitty music for shitty purposes. All that royalty-free crap you hear on every Youtube channel, the music playing in the elevator, the random crap playing during news bulletins, the shitty background music during commercials. People have historically been making decent money by creating all of that crap.

There's absolutely a future - within the next few years, or possibly even now - where that disappears. If I'm a sole-hobbyist CGI animator and want some music for my little fan-film, and some software comes along where I can type "EPIC BATTLE MUSIC SORT OF LIKE HANS ZIMMERMAN" into it, and I can define time-stamped moments where I want the music to flare up or whatever - I'll do that, instead of paying someone. If I'm an ad-agency that just needs an upbeat little ukulele number for some local commercial - great, now I can just get a robot to make it.

None of which takes away from the angsty white kid in his bedroom strumming 3 chords on his guitar, some inner-city black kid rapping badly about the shit that annoys him, or the asian kid with bloody fingers learning to play the violin to join some orchestra. All it takes away is the grift from the hacks.
 
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scallion said:
Because these people aren't artists for the art, they draw porn and just want money from it.
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A lot of the AI models out there restrict explicit content and likenesses of real people. The freakouts seem to have amplified with stuff like Lensa (which can create custom portraits of individuals) and Unstable Diffusion (which can make porn) which presumably are the bread and butter of a lot of the people doing commissions on sites like DeviantArt.

Also screeches of misogyny with regards to nonconsensual pornography of real people, even though that's precisely what Rule34 is filled with. Type in "Black Widow" or "Captain America" and you'll see graphic, explicit and photorealistic digital art and photoshops of Scarlet Johannson and Chris Evans. The difference is those creators have a Patreon rather than being an AI, I guess.
 
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DumbDude43 said:
"victorian england values" were largely the same values that had developed across the entire civilised world, including europe, north africa, the middle east, east asia, and yes, india too.

like, if you unironically believe that india was a bunch of libshit hippies until the evil anglos came and forced them to start burning widows alive on their dead husbands funeral pyres, you are delusional and indoctrinated beyond belief.
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Lol okay. I didn't say any of that but sure. You are right. Victorian England was exactly the same as the Shogun Japanese era.

We can all move on..
 
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Did they really ban all those porn subs?
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Monkey Pink said:
I've already posted this in the AI Art Seething Thread, however I humbly present to you: The Reddit Suicide Wall.

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If AI art can replace you as an artist that says more about you as an artist than about the power of AI art.
Make art beautiful again.
 
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Honestly good for them, they banned r/gendercritical, might as well ban anything moderately offensive. although it is interesting they specifically targeted the gooners
 
The “Zero COVID Community” subreddit is a real treat and a fantastic showcase of mental illness and asocial personality disorders.

“Anyone up for a walk 10 feet apart?!”
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“HAAAALP!!! My brother insists on having a life! How do I use my masks and weird ventilation boxes to stay safe?!”
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“Stupid expert thinks he knows more than me! Amirite guise?!”
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“My family thinks I’m a weirdo for wearing a mask at the dinner table… WHAT TO DO?!”
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“Guise… Life is back to normal and people are doing shot without masks and there’s no mass death… Am I the crazy one?!”
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“My relatives have their own opinions and make informed choices… HOW DO I STOP THIS?!?”
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