Manosphere Andrew Tate / Top G / Cobratate - Egotistical MRA "influencer", arrested for trafficking in Romania, lied about having lung cancer

BULLY HUNTER_78 said:
Tell me, how is Tate a better father than a man who troons out during his midlife crisis, divorces his wife, and leaves his children to go find xerself?
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This is my point. Now you're inventing stuff I haven't said, or think. The only thing I've called him exemplary in is getting people to get riled up over him.

There is no pressuring for abortions.

Bunny Tracks said:
admitted on tape several times to running a sex-trafficking ring
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Ok. So share an example where he shared on tape that he runs a sex trafficking ring.

I'm sure it will be as nonexistent as your previous false claim of him taking girl's passports away from them. If I'm wrong I'll eat crow, but considering you were wrong before, I doubt that that's the case.

You don't need to make shit up to laugh at this guy, ya know.
 
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Lemmingwiser said:
This is my point. Now you're inventing stuff I haven't said, or think. The only thing I've called him exemplary in is getting people to get riled up over him.

There is no pressuring for abortions.
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Andrew Tate might be a retarded, hedonistic, misogynistic, grifting, narcissistic, degenerate sexpest who got into a fight with Greta Thunberg, and somehow lost, and who's admitted to beating the fuck out of women, stealing their passports, and forcing them into sex-slavery, but he would never force anyone to get an abortion! Not even if children directly get in the way of what the fuck he's exactly doing!

Seriously dude, why is this where you draw the line?
Lemmingwiser said:
Ok. So share an example where he shared on tape that he runs a sex trafficking ring.

I'm sure it will be as nonexistent as your previous false claim of him taking girl's passports away from them. If I'm wrong I'll eat crow, but considering you were wrong before, I doubt that that's the case.

You don't need to make shit up to laugh at this guy, ya know.
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Bro, there's been like three videos in the past 10 pages that have shown him doing all that. I literally posted one of him admitting to all that less two pages ago, and you even responded by thanking me for it. What are you talking about?
 
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Bunny Tracks said:
Bro, there's been like three videos in the past 10 pages that have shown him doing all that. I literally posted one of him admitting to all that less two pages ago, and you even responded by thanking me for it. What are you talking about?
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You reffered to two videos that I both watched. There was some lawyer saying that that taking passports is trafficking. Sure. That doesn't mean tate said it. For every other claim he made, he substantiated with a video of tate, but not this.

Neither of the videos had andrew tate saying he took girl's passports. Now you're mentioning a third video. Okay, which one? I'll watch a third video.

Bunny Tracks said:
why is this where you draw the line?
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I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm saying that people are just making up shit. I can add to the list that he's killed people. I mean, if he works with romanian mafia, is a fighter that destroyed people in the ring, he may as well have killed people for real, hasn't he? But it'd be an invention with no evidence for it.

You pointed me to videos and said things were in them that wasn't in them. I draw the line at bullshit. Don't talk bullshit. You said he said it himself; in the 2 videos it's only some random lawyer claiming he did it without any proof.

You can just admit you made a mistake, you know, instead of doubling down.
 
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Lemmingwiser said:
The first vid is already gone. Actually rip the videos, and upload them.
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I happen to have this one.

No mention of passport-taking but he would be breaking UK labour law. Any employee that works for >1 month must either receive advance notice or monetary compensation for their termination.
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Lemmingwiser said:
If someone pukes in my house and then refuses to clean it up in a belligerent way, I might get their stuff and throw it out too. That isn't treating people badly, that is basic self respect. It's assuming he told the truth, but again, no evidence of forcing women against their will.
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At this point, however, it would also be considered a workplace and probably the girl's place of dwelling too.
 
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wanna talk about this cuz i'm autistic about combat sports:

tate's claim that he's a kickboxing 'world champion' is like if you win a local football tournament, and you start saying you won the world cup.
he fought for some group named 'enfusion', which as minor a bush league as it gets in kickboxing. let's look at the 2014 kickboxing rankings (when andrew was active). look for 'world champion' tate's name in it.

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notice alex pereira and israel adesanya there in the middleweight rankings? cute, i guess some things never change.

for reference, #1 Gokhan Saki beat #2 Spong and #4 Corbett in the same night, and during this same week, Tate lost to someone who doesn't even have a wikipedia page. Tate was never a 'world champion'. if he'd ever fought Gokhan, the word murder wouldn't even begin to describe it.
at his peak tate wouldn't even be in the top 300 kickboxers. world champion my ass. only a couple steps above charlie z.
completely meaningless title.
 
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Blatant hypocrite said:
I happen to have this one.
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I absolutely despise it when Americans drop their Ts because they don't change their emphasis to compensate and it draws so much attention to it, at least us Bongers are polite enough to put the emphasis on the first syllable so that it doesn't draw attention to how awful the word you just said sounds.
 
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FILTH Tourist said:
We have a widespread issue of young men and boys who lack a male role model and direction in their life. I really don't blame them for following Tate as their internet daddy. The real issue is that we lack positive male rolemodels that aren't either a grifter, cuck, degenerate, or some mixture of the 3.
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Uberpenguin said:
I agree all three times. The issue though is that good male internet role models is almost a paradoxical idea, because if someone was a good male role model, they wouldn't be an internet celebrity since being an internet celebrity requires a person to be kind of a self-aggrandizing narcissist.

It's the same problem as with America First and people lamenting how every online conservative movement turns out to be a sham; yes, because if they were actually conservative they wouldn't be spending all their time fucking around online and clout chasing.

Male role models teach things like humility, stoicism, having hands on hobbies, etc, things that aren't compatible with cultivating an internet following.
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is there a tabulated definitive list of internet daddies™️?
 
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wanna talk about this cuz i'm autistic about combat sports:

tate's claim that he's a kickboxing 'world champion' is like if you win a local football tournament, and you start saying you won the world cup.
he fought for some group named 'enfusion', which as minor a bush league as it gets in kickboxing. let's look at the 2014 kickboxing rankings (when andrew was active). look for 'world champion' tate's name in it.

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notice alex pereira and israel adesanya there in the middleweight rankings? cute, i guess some things never change.

for reference, #1 Gokhan Saki beat #2 Spong and #4 Corbett in the same night, and during this same week, Tate lost to someone who doesn't even have a wikipedia page. Tate was never a 'world champion'. if he'd ever fought Gokhan, the word murder wouldn't even begin to describe it.
at his peak tate wouldn't even be in the top 300 kickboxers. world champion my ass. only a couple steps above charlie z.
completely meaningless title.
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Didn't he win the iksa world championship kickboxing the year before?

I don't know much about different kickboxing orgs, but I wouldn't have expected joe rogan to verify him as a world champion, because it's one of those rare issues that rogan would actually care about.

I looked at one of his fights and he does fight quite competently.


yydszmiteg2 said:
This is actually legal in the sharia state of brit'in where Tate is from.
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It's legal in practically any european country. Or south american. Or asian. Or african.

The US, a couple of muslim countries and ireland are about the only places with such a high age of consent.

Blatant hypocrite said:
No mention of passport-taking but he would be breaking UK labour law. Any employee that works for >1 month must either receive advance notice or monetary compensation for their termination
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Yeah, which would be reason for him to be caught for breaking labour law, not for violence against a woman or trafficking.

Thanks for supporting my point.

All a trafficked girl has to do is puke to be released from being "trafficked". Maybe. Just maybe, they weren't kept imprisoned?
 
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Lemmingwiser said:
Thanks for supporting my point.
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I'm not trying to argue with you lol, I'm just posting the video.
Lemmingwiser said:
Yeah, which would be reason for him to be caught for breaking labour law, not for violence against a woman or trafficking.
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I don't have access to the police or the woman in question. I only have what he admitted to himself.

Or in other words, he's dumb enough to admit to abusing an employee, but not dumb enough to admit to beating her.

That being said, the definition of human trafficking is broader than you think. It isn't restricted to kidnapping someone and chaining them up in a jail cell. From the United Nations: "Human Trafficking is the recruitment, transportation, transfer, harbouring or receipt of people through force, fraud or deception, with the aim of exploiting them for profit."

Is he recruiting people? Yes.
Is he transporting or transferring people? Yes, he mentions they're from overseas.
Is he harbouring or receiving them? Of course, they're living there.
Force, fraud or deception? He admitted to two out of three.
Exploiting them for profit? Certainly.

Yeah, it's human trafficking.
 
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Venom Paul said:
I refuse to believe Tates ring record is not 90% fixes by his organized crime/glowie connects. He has the exact same personality, tone of voice and mannerisms of every person Ive met who lied about winning the Golden Gloves.
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Maybe, maybe. But it's worth noting that he was fighting in minor leagues, with less famous opponents thus more or less ensuring easy wins.

Then again, maybe those leagues were more vulnerable to corruption, thus ultimately reinforcing your point.
 
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