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KingLiberty76 said:
Oh, I was wrong then, it's been years since i watched the show and I just forgot the show, forgetting thing happens to the best of us.

but anyhow Velma is the most watched show on HBO max.
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Apathy is a much more powerful emotion of defiance than hatred.
 
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.Basic Blonde Boy said:
I think it is moreso just modern cynicism. The 2000s made being a cynical ass a popular thing. While I love it, Shrek definitely helped promote a lack of respect for the past, along with stuff like the live action Scooby movies, pretty much all cape-shit films not made by Raimi or Nolan, adult cartoons like South Park and Family Guy, etc.. The internet also helped by promoting people who made fun of every detail or repetitive thing about a franchise.

Writers now think they are being clever by pointing out flaws in older works or their own. It is a weird way for the to power-level as if they are above the works.
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I think what imitators of Shrek don’t understand is that while Shrek had a lot of snark and disrespect it wasn’t all cynicism.

It was literally made out of resentment and spite towards Disney, sure. But it didn’t just destroy the past. The love story between Fiona and Shrek was sincere and played straight. And it genuinely told a good story on its own.

Without sincerity for balance, those snarky cynical jokes get old fast.
 
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Maverick Vile said:
It's what we all want, but has it ever happened? I remember BTAS Mr. Freeze's story just got more and more tragic the point where he was gladly welcoming death. He and Harley became victims of their own animated series' success where any time they show up they're just going to hammer the one note everyone remembers them for.
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I mostly remember Superman: TAS and villains antagonists who had some kind of arc, and happy endings even. Bizarro and Volcana, at least. Then when JL and JLU rolled around, they were back as mere lackeys for Lex. Lucky to even get a spoken line.

Mad Love basically put a pin on Harley's arc, even as it tried to show the beginning of it. Where do you go with the 'zany Jokers moll' thing after finding out she's a cowed, battered housewife? Good thing the adaptation came at the end of the show, though again, S:TAS and JL/U dragged it out.

Still on Harley, I seem to remember something about some lesbian stan back in the 90s, who had contact with Bruce Timm and/or Paul Dini, and who shipped Harley and Ivy, and that's why they leaned into the lesbian angle. Maybe not hard, but enough to tip the feeble minded. Did I remember that correctly or am I full of shit?

Once Juan Now Ernesto said:
Being a normal, well-balanced, well-adjusted human being is right wing.
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Where's the lie? :smug:

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It's like something from a Junji Ito cartoon. :o

Jonah Hill poster said:
2011 version was not too bad the more I look back at it. If anything, I just thought the 3D look of TinTin seemed rather uncanny when I was younger. It was proof, though, that Spielberg can at least stay true to the vision of Hergé’s creation.
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Captain Haddock yammering on about warty mothers and bestiality really rubbed me the wrong way. Just make him a funny angry drunk, you hacks. Also the crane thing at the end was just special effects masturbation.

The earlier animated series was far more 'true to the vision'.

SteelPlatedHeart said:
Top guy changes his mind in his next video.
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Look at his hair. He has no mind.
 
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