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[Jormungand]

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Cartoon reviewer Schaffrillas is in critical condition with two others confirmed dead. Killed by the thing he hated most, Cars, 2 of them

Okay, I'll be honest, I never liked Schaffrillas (in this case, I didn't like any of his videos). He came off as a sperg who panders to the woke crowd, not helped by the fact he had the most "millennial" sense of humour and more often than not, his critique was shit, but even I would never wish for Schaffrillas to get into a car crash, let alone have two people close to him killed.

What makes this worse is that these guys were young.

They die only in their 20's. That was when these guys were learning to be adults, and in the end, they didn't get the chance to grow up truly.
It's horrible.

Seems he's conscious now. Poor guy, this is gonna stick with him for the rest of his life.

Physically he has a chance to recover, but mentally he's fuck.
He just lost two close friends, one of them being his brother, these guys helped Schaffrillas with his videos for years, and now they're gone.
I wouldn't be surprised if he suffers from survivor guilt from this tragedy.

I highly doubt Schaffrillas will continue making videos due to the trauma, or maybe he will come back, but he's never going to be the same.
Expect a lot of his content to head in a dark direction.

Until then, Rest in Peace, Chris and Patrick. May you be remembered fondly by your loved ones.

 

[A Grey Cat]

Unpopular opinion... I actually like the Highlander cartoon. Honestly most of the time I hear people criticize it, its just people like Spoony who get hung up on how its inconsistent with the movies. Which I feel is kind of an autistic complaint, in this case more than most others, since even the movies are inconsistent. I tend to view it more as a stealth remake of Thundarr the Barbarian than as part of the Highlander franchise.

I haven't seen it in full so I can't speak for quality, it's just I'm with those who ask how do you make a cartoon out a franchise that involves Scottish warriors decapitating each other? Eh I mentioned other shows based on stuff like Rambo and robocop which showed even worse stuff.

I've been told the original EC Horror comics were also moralistic, but just in a more subtle way. Like eventually a person would be brought down by his hubris or something like that.

Oh yeah they did but the writers of the ec comics kept the morals subtle and didn't usually spell them out because they didn't assume the readers were idiots back than. Unfortunately they kept it so subtle that that's practically WHY the public opinion towards comics shifted to a moral panic in the 50s. Even adults who looked at them only saw the half naked and tied up damsels, severed heads, disembodied hands, and hideous monsters and nothing else.

Conversely the animated show spells it out plain as day, dont skip school to play video games all day, don't disrespect wildlife, ect. But it is saved by John kasier giving his all to play crypt keeper as always, even if he. Ant be the rotted masochist he is on the live action show. Plus despite being under pressure to stay within limits, the visuals still do have that 90s kid horror charm. Up there with goosebumps, are you afraid of the dark, scary stories to tell in the dark, and the nightmare room.

 

[Gorillion others]

Okay, I'll be honest, I never liked Schaffrillas (in this case, I didn't like any of his videos). He came off as a sperg who panders to the woke crowd, not helped by the fact he had the most "millennial" sense of humour and more often than not, his critique was shit, but even I would never wish for Schaffrillas to get into a car crash, let alone have two people close to him killed.

What makes this worse is that these guys were young.

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They die only in their 20's. That was when these guys were learning to be adults, and in the end, they didn't get the chance to grow up truly.
It's horrible.

Physically he has a chance to recover, but mentally he's fuck.
He just lost two close friends, one of them being his brother, these guys helped Schaffrillas with his videos for years, and now they're gone.
I wouldn't be surprised if he suffers from survivor guilt from this tragedy.

I highly doubt Schaffrillas will continue making videos due to the trauma, or maybe he will come back, but he's never going to be the same.
Expect a lot of his content to head in a dark direction.

Until then, Rest in Peace, Chris and Patrick. May you be remembered fondly by your loved ones.

There's a very good chance that this incident will make him into a sperg or lolcow. Never let a tragedy go to waste, and all that.

I am very much hoping I'm wrong. Very wrong.

 

[Jormungand]

There's a very good chance that this incident will make him into a sperg or lolcow. Never let a tragedy go to waste, and all that.

I am very much hoping I'm wrong. Very wrong.

Same here.
Again don't like the guy, but I really hope this horrific situation makes Schaffrillas into something worse.

Poor guy has been through enough already.

 

[Trashtaur]

This entire situation really reminded me of just how short and fleeting life really is. One moment you’re there, and then you’re not. It’s pretty damn sobering.

My heart goes out to James. I genuinely wish him and his family the best.

 

[Toolbox]

Physically he has a chance to recover, but mentally he's fuck.
He just lost two close friends, one of them being his brother, these guys helped Schaffrillas with his videos for years, and now they're gone.
I wouldn't be surprised if he suffers from survivor guilt from this tragedy.

I highly doubt Schaffrillas will continue making videos due to the trauma, or maybe he will come back, but he's never going to be the same.
Expect a lot of his content to head in a dark direction.

Until then, Rest in Peace, Chris and Patrick. May you be remembered fondly by your loved ones.

Chris didn't just help, based on the last name he and James founded the channel together. Schaffer, Phyrillas. Schaffrillas. I always just thought that was gibberish. The last name was referring to not just James but I'd have to guess the brother too. Losing 2 of the closest people to you but those that likely split your careers or side job's workload for your entire adult life in an instant means there is probably no way the channel is continuing at all. While James is alive his body is likely very broken and won't heal to how it used to be either seeing both of the other passengers died to this. We've already touched on the mental part but I see little way his body will fully recover unless this was a freak accident that only crumpled the part of the vehicle where his brother and friend were.

 

[Gorillion others]

this horrific situation makes Schaffrillas into something worse.

What?

 

[Colon capital V]

What?

I'm going to assume the nigga just forgot to put a "won't" somewhere in that sentence.

 

[AveraDiane]

I haven't watched Schaffrillas' content in quite some time and I was very shocked by the news. I wouldn't blame him if he stopped making videos, it won't be the same without two people who helped out with the channel. What an awful thing to happen.

 

[Oats12345]

Okay, I'll be honest, I never liked Schaffrillas (in this case, I didn't like any of his videos). He came off as a sperg who panders to the woke crowd, not helped by the fact he had the most "millennial" sense of humour and more often than not, his critique was shit, but even I would never wish for Schaffrillas to get into a car crash, let alone have two people close to him killed.

What makes this worse is that these guys were young.

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They die only in their 20's. That was when these guys were learning to be adults, and in the end, they didn't get the chance to grow up truly.
It's horrible.

Physically he has a chance to recover, but mentally he's fuck.
He just lost two close friends, one of them being his brother, these guys helped Schaffrillas with his videos for years, and now they're gone.
I wouldn't be surprised if he suffers from survivor guilt from this tragedy.

I highly doubt Schaffrillas will continue making videos due to the trauma, or maybe he will come back, but he's never going to be the same.
Expect a lot of his content to head in a dark direction.

Until then, Rest in Peace, Chris and Patrick. May you be remembered fondly by your loved ones.

Shit once he fully recovers. I really do hope the family closely monitors him since this could lead to depression.
As much as I wish for karma towards Woke YouTubers this isn't what I wish for. I ment something that ruins your channel not your entire life and leaves you with noting but guilt. This may also end his channel from what it sounds since his brother was such a big part behind the scenes. He may not want to go forward with the channel since it would not only be too much work for him but a constant reminder about his brother's death and how he is partially blame for it. Hence when I said I hope his family monitors him closely.

 

[Boy_Blunder]

There's your stop sign. Either that truck was going way faster than it should have been or Shaff wasn't paying attention.

 

[A Grey Cat]

There's your stop sign. Either that truck was going way faster than it should have been or Shaff wasn't paying attention.
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Possible that it was going fatser since this is an open highway in the middle of nowhere, then again with all due respect it is possible Shaff forgot his road smarts.



I feel like this should be contained to the cartoon reviewers thread. Since he's not enough of a cow to get his own thread.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

Unpopular opinion... I actually like the Highlander cartoon. Honestly most of the time I hear people criticize it, its just people like Spoony who get hung up on how its inconsistent with the movies. Which I feel is kind of an autistic complaint, in this case more than most others, since even the movies are inconsistent. I tend to view it more as a stealth remake of Thundarr the Barbarian than as part of the Highlander franchise.

It's not bad. There's flaws with it but for a post not really apocalyptic but definitely collapse of civilisation setting it is far from the worst concept I have seen. The immortals dedicating themselves to recovering mankind's lost knowledge with the intent of eventually all losing their immortality to pass it to a chosen one who redistributes it to mankind, while a fairly standard chosen one plotline, is actually interesting as an idea. That some of them deviate from that moral path by the time the chosen one finally turns up is believable too.

The little sister and animal sidekick can get grating but she was used for okay plot stuff at times. Even some of the bit roles were interesting, the Human Key getting an episode where he admits that his life has its flaws but he has a purpose and recognition as a result of it whereas if he left it behind he would be no-one. Interesting message that not many shows would want to do.

I am probably just remembering the best bits of it though. Long time since I last saw any of it.

It having fuck and all to do with the Highlander mythos though is whiney. Those movies were not consistent with themselves. The cartoon going "there are immortals. They die by decapitation. We're stealing the name of the main character from the films. Everything else is surplus to requirements."
Hell, they kept beheading in the children's cartoon! Sure it's never on screen but still.

 

[skykiii]

It's not bad. There's flaws with it but for a post not really apocalyptic but definitely collapse of civilisation setting it is far from the worst concept I have seen. The immortals dedicating themselves to recovering mankind's lost knowledge with the intent of eventually all losing their immortality to pass it to a chosen one who redistributes it to mankind, while a fairly standard chosen one plotline, is actually interesting as an idea. That some of them deviate from that moral path by the time the chosen one finally turns up is believable too.

The little sister and animal sidekick can get grating but she was used for okay plot stuff at times. Even some of the bit roles were interesting, the Human Key getting an episode where he admits that his life has its flaws but he has a purpose and recognition as a result of it whereas if he left it behind he would be no-one. Interesting message that not many shows would want to do.

I am probably just remembering the best bits of it though. Long time since I last saw any of it.

It having fuck and all to do with the Highlander mythos though is whiney. Those movies were not consistent with themselves. The cartoon going "there are immortals. They die by decapitation. We're stealing the name of the main character from the films. Everything else is surplus to requirements."
Hell, they kept beheading in the children's cartoon! Sure it's never on screen but still.

Honestly, last time I watched the complete series (I have the DVD set), I only had two issues.

One, late in the series there's an episode about the Library of Alexandria. My big problem is this is one of the more blatantly moraltastic episodes--"reading is fun!"--... problem is they bend the character of Clyde (the little sister character) over backwards to make her just an impatient little kid who doesn't understand the value of books, when there was already a "library" episode where she had more or less the opposite portrayal (Quinten missed his chance to get knowledge from that episode's immortal, Ramirez suggests he take up reading... to which Clyde takes the book and says "I'll help.") In general I was always fine with Clyde because she acted more or less how I expected someone in her circumstances to act--while she's at times childish, you can tell in some episodes that living in this hellscape made her grow up fast.

Two was the very last episode, which really seems to me like it was meant to be a grand finale. Quinten and Kortan have this dramatic meeting where they both state with serious tones that this is gonna be their final meeting... but then their fight gets interrupted, as usual.

Back when I was autistic enough to write fanfics I had an idea for an ending to this series, but since I don't bother with fanwork anymore I probably won't do anything with it.

Spoiler: Autistic fan ending idea

Basically I would've had Kortan kidnap that little sister and raise her to try and corrupt her, and she stays in his custody until adulthood... but he winds up coming to genuinely like her. Thus can't bring himself to kill Quintin when the time for the duel comes. Quintin has also realized that while Kortan's ideas are immoral in some ways, the fact is he has a modern city with high technology in a world where everyone else lives in shit-huts, so they wind up finding a way to combine their attitudes to bring the world back to prosperity... and develop space lasers in case any more of those pesky comets come by (since that's what wrecked the world the first time). They also later sense that Clyde is an unawakened immortal but, unlike Duncan in the endgame movie, actually give her the choice of whether to be awakened or live a normal life... she chooses the latter and winds up dying of old age. Its only then that Kortan and Quintin go somewhere to presumably have their final battle. Neither is ever seen again although stories of a wise hermit get passed around.

But yeah, for me Highlander is similar to Thundercats in that its a lot of little things that make it compelling. The music and art both simultaneously take me back to the past, but also transport me to an awesome world that doesn't suck ass... and it really is its particular vision of the post-apocalypse that I love. I don't normally even like these kinds of settings. And I keep saying its a stealth remake of Thundarr... in that show, the way Princess Ariel kept knowing ancient Earth stuff was kind of a "well she happened to read it in a book" ordeal which at times sounded just short of believable. Ramirez knowing because he was actually there though, that tracks to me.

 

[Basic Blond Boy]

A hoy mates, in good animation news, our boy got a good licensed game today.


Edit: Are we allowed to talk about games based on animation here? I would love to speak about the good ones.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

Honestly, last time I watched the complete series (I have the DVD set), I only had two issues.

One, late in the series there's an episode about the Library of Alexandria. My big problem is this is one of the more blatantly moraltastic episodes--"reading is fun!"--... problem is they bend the character of Clyde (the little sister character) over backwards to make her just an impatient little kid who doesn't understand the value of books, when there was already a "library" episode where she had more or less the opposite portrayal (Quinten missed his chance to get knowledge from that episode's immortal, Ramirez suggests he take up reading... to which Clyde takes the book and says "I'll help.") In general I was always fine with Clyde because she acted more or less how I expected someone in her circumstances to act--while she's at times childish, you can tell in some episodes that living in this hellscape made her grow up fast.

I think that's far from an uncommon thing with a lot of works of the time and even now. Lessons are briefly unlearned to provide the behaviour necessary for the episode. In fairness though for that earlier episode that could just be Clyde (how did I forget that name? She sounds like a male rural lad) being excessively confident. The next scene in the earlier episode could easily have been her opening the book and going "the fuck is this shit?" It's still inconsistent as is though.

Two was the very last episode, which really seems to me like it was meant to be a grand finale. Quinten and Kortan have this dramatic meeting where they both state with serious tones that this is gonna be their final meeting... but then their fight gets interrupted, as usual.

Back when I was autistic enough to write fanfics I had an idea for an ending to this series, but since I don't bother with fanwork anymore I probably won't do anything with it.

Spoiler: Autistic fan ending idea

Basically I would've had Kortan kidnap that little sister and raise her to try and corrupt her, and she stays in his custody until adulthood... but he winds up coming to genuinely like her. Thus can't bring himself to kill Quintin when the time for the duel comes. Quintin has also realized that while Kortan's ideas are immoral in some ways, the fact is he has a modern city with high technology in a world where everyone else lives in shit-huts, so they wind up finding a way to combine their attitudes to bring the world back to prosperity... and develop space lasers in case any more of those pesky comets come by (since that's what wrecked the world the first time). They also later sense that Clyde is an unawakened immortal but, unlike Duncan in the endgame movie, actually give her the choice of whether to be awakened or live a normal life... she chooses the latter and winds up dying of old age. Its only then that Kortan and Quintin go somewhere to presumably have their final battle. Neither is ever seen again although stories of a wise hermit get passed around.

I'll resist giving you the puzzle pieces, mostly because Kortan's depiction had a degree of complexity to it so your fanfiction would not be impossible. As regards the last episode it's that unfortunately common one of the time where they did not want to actually finish the show. Which is certainly one thing I can credit a lot of newer shows with doing.

But yeah, for me Highlander is similar to Thundercats in that its a lot of little things that make it compelling. The music and art both simultaneously take me back to the past, but also transport me to an awesome world that doesn't suck ass... and it really is its particular vision of the post-apocalypse that I love. I don't normally even like these kinds of settings. And I keep saying its a stealth remake of Thundarr... in that show, the way Princess Ariel kept knowing ancient Earth stuff was kind of a "well she happened to read it in a book" ordeal which at times sounded just short of believable. Ramirez knowing because he was actually there though, that tracks to me.

Completely fair. As you say, Thundarr might have lacked the same credibility but that is fairly justified by the gap in time between the two works. One had an extra degree of complexity to better explain its' knowledge ass pulls.

Setting wise though I do think it works. And while the intro is not as good as the Thundercats one, nor the outro, the music works well and there is clearly effort there.

Speaking of effort I notice some of the other works those behind it were involved with it are interesting.

Bohbot Entertainment - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

For those indifferent to the link the ones I instinctively rate as rather good are;
Jumanji
Mighty Max
Roswell Conspiracies

 

[skykiii]

I think that's far from an uncommon thing with a lot of works of the time and even now. Lessons are briefly unlearned to provide the behaviour necessary for the episode. In fairness though for that earlier episode that could just be Clyde (how did I forget that name? She sounds like a male rural lad) being excessively confident. The next scene in the earlier episode could easily have been her opening the book and going "the fuck is this shit?" It's still inconsistent as is though.

I'll resist giving you the puzzle pieces, mostly because Kortan's depiction had a degree of complexity to it so your fanfiction would not be impossible. As regards the last episode it's that unfortunately common one of the time where they did not want to actually finish the show. Which is certainly one thing I can credit a lot of newer shows with doing.

Completely fair. As you say, Thundarr might have lacked the same credibility but that is fairly justified by the gap in time between the two works. One had an extra degree of complexity to better explain its' knowledge ass pulls.

Setting wise though I do think it works. And while the intro is not as good as the Thundercats one, nor the outro, the music works well and there is clearly effort there.

Speaking of effort I notice some of the other works those behind it were involved with it are interesting.

Bohbot Entertainment - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

For those indifferent to the link the ones I instinctively rate as rather good are;
Jumanji
Mighty Max
Roswell Conspiracies

I will say that its to Highlander's credit that out of forty episodes, I only had issues with two of them (and only the second library one I would call outright "bad").

Also hell yes Mighty Max. I remember not liking Jumanji back in the day (just its weird art style turned me off) and never saw Roswell Conspiracies at all,... which means I should see if its on Youtube.

Mighty Max though is a show I'm shocked holds up. I recall liking it as a kid, seeing it again in the early days of Youtube and not liking it, then watching it again a few years back and loving it. There is some oddness going from season one to season two (mostly I'm not entirely sure what Skullmaster's deal is and I'm not a big fan of some of the one-off villains) but... that's another series I'd at least love to see get a decent DVD release.

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

A hoy mates, in good animation news, our boy got a good licensed game today.
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Edit: Are we allowed to talk about games based on animation here? I would love to speak about the good ones.

Reviews have been all over the place, ranging from "the best SpongeBob game yet", to "meh". Of couse, game journoscum, so taken with a ma-HOOSIVE grain of salt. Will wait for user reviews.

 

[AnOminous]

My big problem is this is one of the more blatantly moraltastic episodes--"reading is fun!"--... problem is they bend the character of Clyde (the little sister character) over backwards to make her just an impatient little kid who doesn't understand the value of books, when there was already a "library" episode where she had more or less the opposite portrayal (Quinten missed his chance to get knowledge from that episode's immortal, Ramirez suggests he take up reading... to which Clyde takes the book and says "I'll help.")

This is why even episodic shows for kids should have some kind of a bible, just like you'd have character models, and some kind of chief editor who rubs the writers' noses in it when they fuck it up. Even kids notice when you fuck that up.

 

[Basic Blond Boy]

Reviews have been all over the place, ranging from "the best SpongeBob game yet", to "meh". Of couse, game journoscum, so taken with a ma-HOOSIVE grain of salt. Will wait for user reviews.

Rule of thumb, never trust reviewers with licensed games, past or present. Unless your game is attached to post-Arkham capeshit or LEGO, reviews are bound to make the game out to be worse than it is.

It is why I asked about discussing the good ones, as tons of cartoon properties, including SpongeBob, have great games that went under the radar.