Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread - Episode III - Revenge of the Ruski (now unlocked with new skins and gameplay modes!!!)

[Badungus Kabungus]

Wow, you finally starting to understand something. Yes,"dumps" took place when one country wishes to make impact on exchenge ratio of owns currency to USD.

No, I stated that Germoney has more gold than ruzzia.


Look another time on DXY. I will explain it it few bullets:

- some country have a local currency,
- from some reasons they don't want to have growning price of USD in local currency,
- they sell USD for local currency,
- they sell local currency for USD.

Or sometimes just sell USD for gold to make more USD in circulation. You are getting this, yes? Can you finally give any source of your, uhm, unorthodox economy thesis?

Let me fix this for you.

- some country have a local currency,
- from some reasons they don't want to have growning price of USD in local currency,
- they sell USD for local currency,
- they sell local currency for USD gold or a gold-backed currency
- they buy energy, medicine, and food from BRICS nations for gold or a gold-backed currency at a lower cost
- they do not starve and freeze to death

Understand?

 

[World Famous Quasi Payer]

I don't know if the Javeline can kill much of anything to be honest. There's plenty of videos of Javelines being fired at BTRs and BMPs (not even heavily armored targets) and either not getting any kill or just getting a mobility kill.

Over penetrations most likely. What your shooting at should dictate what your shooting at them. Of course, ukrainian conscripts probaly don't know better.

Looks like hohols will be getting enough Leopards to equip 2 or 3 Western-size armored divisions, aka a full armored corps of 300-500 tanks. With Germany announcing they'll send 187, Poland sending 80, other Yerp countries sending smaller amounts, and now that Germany has made up its mind Poland will probably send more than the 80 it has pledged and the other countries will probably up their amounts as well. Looks like about 2/3 will be modernized Leopard 1s and the rest Leopard 2s

Spoiler: Military Autism

I'm not too familiar with proper organization but 300-500 tanks is more a division and not several. A tank is roughly equal to a squad in organization, meaning a platoon is the basic armor unit.
Platoon - 4 vehicles.
Company (three platoons) - 12
Battalion (three companies)- 36
Regiment (three battalions) - 108
Division (two or three regiments) - 216/324 tanks

500 tanks is four Regiments and an understrength regiment. Nothing to sneeze at for sure, but not 2-3 divisions (648-972 tanks) . 1 and a quarter more like.

Of course this all ignores supporting assets; scout cavalry, infantry (preferably mechanized), dedicated artillery, air units, engineers, support and supply units.

These tanks are outdated, will be used by poorly led and trained conscripts, going up against better equipped and trained enemy who have fire superiority and air support. These tanks are gonna end up as burning wrecks and metal coffins before long. A waste of life and material.

 

[Fait Accompli]

Wait they sent Ukraine the actual Leopard 1? Like the tank that was designed back when military doctrine was "due to advances in ballistics, armor is fucking useless, fuck armor" Like those Leopard 1's?

If i understood it correctly, they're sending modernized and renovated Leopard 1s, about 200. Modernized its a very capable tank in this battlefield, as most Russian tanks are upped T-72s. But it'll take quite a while for them to get there

 

[Elämällä on väliä]

- they do not starve and freeze to death

Ah, yes! When we will start to freezing to death in EU?

- they sell local currency for USD gold or a gold-backed currency

If they find someone who will sell them that for chinka-chonka coins. If they even think about that lunacy.

- they buy energy, medicine, and food from BRICS nations for gold or a gold-backed currency at a lower cost

Main exporters of medicine and food: EU, USA and their freinds like Canada and Australia.

Main exporters of energy (oil): arab nations highly interested in medicine and food. Also EU and USA mentoined above.

GDP produced in USA + eurozone: more than 40% (!) of world GDP. Probably when we add also all Shitstans and Republics of Nothing using USD or euro insteed their own currencies (Equador and few more) or using currencies pegged to euro or USD (half of Africa) we will get another 2-5% ofworld GDP. Not much, but ruzzia had slighty more than 2% of world GDP.

GDP produced in BRICS: less than 25%. Most of it produced in China which are hardly against making renmibi free floating currency or backing it with gold/oil/goats shit.

@KingArthurofBritain cool, but Ukraine and ruzzia aren't using divisional scheme.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

Ah, yes! When we will start to freezing to death in EU?


If they find someone who will sell them that for chinka-chonka coins. If they even think about that lunacy.


Main exporters of medicine and food: EU, USA and their freinds like Canada and Australia.

Main exporters of energy (oil): arab nations highly interested in medicine and food. Also EU and USA mentoined above.

GDP produced in USA + eurozone: more than 40% (!) of world GDP. Probably when we add also all Shitstans and Republics of Nothing using USD or euro insteed their own currencies (Equador and few more) or using currencies pegged to euro or USD (half of Africa) we will get another 2-5% ofworld GDP. Not much, but ruzzia had slighty more than 2% of world GDP.

GDP produced in BRICS: less than 25%. Most of it produced in China which are hardly against making renmibi free floating currency or backing it with gold/oil/goats shit.

@KingArthurofBritain cool, but Ukraine and ruzzia aren't using divisional scheme.

More of "muh GDP" cope. It's a terrible metric, only cretins and liars use it to try to prove that the US/EU isn't collapsing. Besides, EU isn't going to be producing dick all without Russian energy, see article I posted above. Do you even know what year this is? It's not 1995 anymore. The landscape has shifted, in case you haven't realized it. No more European industry powered by cheap Russian resources. No Janssen. No Bayer. No Bosch.

One last try to explain it. So let's say an African country like Mali wants to purchase some oil, gas, medicine, and wheat. Do they deal directly with BRICS nations and their OPEC buddies who produce all of the things they need, or do they go to a European middleman who (due to a lack of local industry) now has to buy medicine from India, wheat from Russia, oil from Saudi Arabia, and re-sell it to the poor Africans at three times the cost? Of course the condition for dealing with BRICS would require Mali to do business in their currency instead of the USD, but the benefits are pretty clear.

 

[just a banana]

"Western values" includes child soldiers?
https://twitter.com/PeImeniPusha/status/1623079577840136194

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

"Western values" includes child soldiers?
View attachment 4462999 https://twitter.com/PeImeniPusha/status/1623079577840136194

Bro, please tell me the Ukrainians did not conscript Null. I'd be very saddened if that was the case.

 

[Napoleon Bonerfart]

More of "muh GDP" cope. It's a terrible metric, only cretins and liars use it to try to prove that the US/EU isn't collapsing.

So just to be clear, a nation with a strong GDP, like the United States, is totally on the brink of destruction, while a nation like Russia that, lost up to 50% of its GDP, it’s totally healthy?

 

[870EVO]

More of "muh GDP" cope. It's a terrible metric, only cretins and liars use it to try to prove that the US/EU isn't collapsing. Besides, EU isn't going to be producing dick all without Russian energy, see article I posted above. Do you even know what year this is? It's not 1995 anymore. The landscape has shifted, in case you haven't realized it. No more European industry powered by cheap Russian resources. No Janssen. No Bayer. No Bosch.

One last try to explain it. So let's say an African country like Mali wants to purchase some oil, gas, medicine, and wheat. Do they deal directly with BRICS nations and their OPEC buddies who produce all of the things they need, or do they go to a European middleman who (due to a lack of local industry) now has to buy medicine from India, wheat from Russia, oil from Saudi Arabia, and re-sell it to the poor Africans at three times the cost? Of course the condition for dealing with BRICS would require Mali to do business in their currency instead of the USD, but the benefits are pretty clear.

Well currently the news is Mali just expelled the French and are in talks with Russia to help deal with their insurgency. Also Iranian and Russian rescue crews are first on the ground after the Earthquake in Syria. So it seems like everyone just doesn't trust the US/EU for anything at the moment.

 

[Elämällä on väliä]

So let's say an African country like Mali

GDP around non-existing, they buy a lot.

wheat

ruzzia exports around 17% of worlds wheat, EU around 16%, Australia around 14%, USA around 11% and Ukraine around 10%. Why they should choose ruzzia instead of EU, USA or Ukraine?

oil

What type of refinery they use? You know, Ural and Brent have some major differences...

medicine

More than half are exported from EU, India have astoning 6,1% share of worlds export. Why they should choose India?

Of course the condition for dealing with BRICS would require Mali to do business in their currency instead of the USD, but the benefits are pretty clear.

Still no reserve BRIC currency on the site, but you have big dreams, aren't you?

Well currently the news is Mali just expelled the French and are in talks with Russia to help deal with their insurgency.

Call me when Mali will have own currency unpegged from euro.

 

[VargReallyDidNothingWrong]

The one thing I hate more than anything else on KF is ESL retards who refuse to just go sit on their own retarded Pakistani forums and discord servers and instead inflict their retarded posts on normal people who can actually spell words right.

Not pointing any fingers, just thinking out loud.

 

[World Famous Quasi Payer]

cool, but Ukraine and ruzzia aren't using divisional scheme.

Ukraine is, if they're getting western advisors and support. Units may not be operating as part of division sized actions, but they are almost certainly organized in such fashion. Russia is as well, given Soviet doctrine used divisions and Russian doctrine is basically Soviet.

 

[Elämällä on väliä]

Ukraine is, if they're getting western advisors and support. Units may not be operating as part of division sized actions, but they are almost certainly organized in such fashion. Russia is as well, given Soviet doctrine used divisions and Russian doctrine is basically Soviet.

On frontline they use something called BTG.

The one thing I hate more than anything else on KF is ESL

Do you need a hug, myfrien?

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

GDP around non-existing, they buy a lot.


ruzzia exports around 17% of worlds wheat, EU around 16%, Australia around 14%, USA around 11% and Ukraine around 10%. Why they should choose ruzzia instead of EU, USA or Ukraine?

Ukraine is Russian, don't forget what thread you're in. That means Russia controls more than a quarter of the world's wheat population.

What type of refinery they use? You know, Ural and Brent have some major differences...


More than half are exported from EU, India have astoning 6,1% share of worlds export. Why they should choose India?


Still no reserve BRIC currency on the site, but you have big dreams, aren't you?


Call me when Mali will have own currency unpegged from euro.

It's pretty schizo how your entire argument is structured around the idea that European industry will never falter, even when they no longer have access to the very thing that enabled it for the last generation, it being cheap Russian energy resources.

Here's a dose of reality. Tell me more about muh GDP, nigger.

“Given the actions of the U.S. and China, we see the real danger of deindustrialization and disinvestment,” a senior European Commission official said.
Losing manufacturing capacity means losing jobs, and that — said Luc Triangle, general secretary of the IndustriALL European Trade Union, which represents manufacturing workers — has “political consequences.”
“We are not exaggerating when we say that European industry — starting with the energy-intensive industries on the frontline — is facing an existential crisis,” Triangle said. The same “existential” threat applies to the 8 million workers in the energy-intensive sector, IndustriALL has warned.
In its annual labor market review, published last month, the European Commission said that employment rates in the EU remained strong despite the war, with unemployment falling to 6 percent in July. But it also warned that continuing high energy costs pose a “major risk” to jobs in the EU, particularly in energy-intensive manufacturing sectors.
“We don’t see it in the data yet … but it is a concern for the future, maybe as soon as this year,” said the economics minister of an EU country.

https://archive.ph/eWVX5

https://www.politico.eu/article/end-made-in-europe-manufacturing-industry-struggle/

 

[Got Milk!]

Av. salary in Bulgaria: 22,5 thousand USD//year
Av. salary in ruzzia: 16,5 thousand USD/year

Well, if someone like to be poor.

Adnan, $22.5k/USD is not the brag you think it is.

Bro, please tell me the Ukrainians did not conscript Null. I'd be very saddened if that was the case.

No, but the Serbians did. He's chief negotiator with pristina.

Seeing a lot of tank talk but not a lot of delivery talk. Canada flew one in but that's all I have seen of an actual delivery. Has anyone else stated any hard dates?

E: Sorry frens. I forgot about the one delivered in lucite. Apologies.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

Adnan, $22.5k/USD is not the brag you think it is.

Not to mention...
Bulgaria gas price today: 1.4 $USD per liter
Russia gas price today: 0.75 $USD per liter

Russia household electricity price: 0.067 $USD per kWh
Bulgaria household electricity price: 0.132 $USD per kWh

Bulgaria average IQ: 90
Russia average IQ: 96 (would've been higher without Dagestan, sorry bros)
US average IQ: 97 (only because they don't count the millions of illegals)
Albania average IQ: 90

source: https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/smartest-countries

So you make 25% more on average, but pay 50% more on utilities and everything else, and you are surrounded by low IQ gypsies. Yep, sounds like Europe.

 

[Stoneheart]

Reserve currencies are never permanent and it takes some inertia to change.

well there is the swiss franc, but thats a very special case.

German gold will be used to buy Russian oil and gas to keep their industry from collapsing.

Unlikely. there is still more money flowing in than out, so no need to use gold.

For some news, a bus full of Ukrainian draft dodgers got detained in Transcarpathia and sent back into the meat grinder.

Well they are most likely ethnic hungarians that dont wanna die for the jew in kevin...

I get that it's hard to compete with such successful NATO members as Bulgaria, Poland, and Romania, but I'd rather live in Kaliningrad than Plovdiv, thank you very much.

But those countries were always poor and full of retarded people... Königsberg on the other hand was incredible rich and full of culture. the other jewel in the baltic is doing better than Königsberg, but well thats mostly because germans have bought up half of old town danzig.

No, but the Serbians did. He's chief negotiator with pristina.

his little son jabba and his little daughter blubber will sing songs about his heroic warcrimes in the future.

 

[🇷🇺Fuck Ukraine🇷🇺]

Ok, you also have not a single clue what reserve currency is.

So why the brics still using USD? If it is so bad and worthless, why they didn't dorpped it already and didn't use own currencies in trade?

Maybye, IDK, problem is with their ifnlation? Decrease of value? Lach of faith than B will not fuck I or C won't scam R in this process?

But ruzzkie and their friends didn't - they gold reserves are smaller than Germoneys. Even Germoneys.

This month still only ruzzia sells gold from reserves. When this sgift will start?


xD

They still offer only USD and still Arabs are making deals. So when the mighty ruzzia will make their new reserve currency?


Why they should start this anyway? Or: why gold, not silver/indium/shittium from outer space?

No, they didn't. "Golden african dinar" is hoax even dumber than amero.

...
Gold reserves of Germoney: near 3500 tonnes. 175% of ruzzkie reserves.
Forex reserves of Germoney: 277 B of USD.
Forex reserves of ruzzia: 597 B of USD (but some amount of this is, uhm, frozen).

Not sure, but the only one who is hoarding paper bills is ruzzia. Also, funfact: forex reserves are calculated without currency used in country internaly.

They are "stockpilling" (cleary you didn't get what is reserve) both foreign currencies and gold.


https://www.gold.org/goldhub/data/gold-reserves-by-country it was linked at least one time.


Av. salary in Bulgaria: 22,5 thousand USD//year
Av. salary in ruzzia: 16,5 thousand USD/year

Well, if someone like to be poor.

Can someone please give this idiot a pink triangle..... The volume of stupid here is enough to suffocate puppies.

It is a bit out of date, but calling it garbage is just false.
the Leopard I is a perfectly serviceable tank.
they are also going to get the Leopard 1A5, an upgrade version of the tank.

This is 100% cope.
Leopard 2, Bradley's and Abrams are just motorised junk without air support.

Leopard 1's are complete garbage on a modern battlefield. They even suck against infantry, no matter what version of the tank UKR gets it's going to fail. No air support, untrained tank crews and over 40 years out of date and that's assuming they work after being mothballed for so long.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

Unlikely. there is still more money flowing in than out, so no need to use gold.

For now there's no need, but Germany will be very glad they have that gold in the future. Assuming that Poland doesn't get it as reparations, they've already been asking, lol.

Well they are most likely ethnic hungarians that dont wanna die for the jew in kevin...

Can't disagree there.

But those countries were always poor and full of retarded people... Königsberg on the other hand was incredible rich and full of culture. the other jewel in the baltic is doing better than Königsberg, but well thats mostly because germans have bought up half of old town danzig.

Hey, Poland has a long and proud history of culture and scientific research, I heard they were the first in the world to build a submarine with a screen door. Romania is full of culture too. They gave the world Dracula and Borat. Bulgaria, well, they make alright wine there, so not much gets done.

More on Putin's (not really) deindustrialization of Europe:

Putin kickstarts de-industrialisation of Europe's factories

archived 1 Jan 2023 09:35:51 UTC

archive.ph

Putin kickstarts de-industrialisation of Europe's factories

High gas prices caused by Russia's war on Ukraine has hit manufacturers and their output

www.telegraph.co.uk

In Germany’s western industrial heartlands is BASF’s main Ludwigshafen facility, a sprawling complex that guzzles roughly as much gas as the whole of Switzerland.
Like many manufacturing giants, the chemicals maker has found that Vladimir Putin's war in Ukraine and the new normal of high gas prices is challenging the business model the country’s industrial hubs were built on.
“These challenging framework conditions in Europe endanger the international competitiveness of European producers,” its boss Martin Brudermueller admitted in October as it unveiled permanent cost-cutting measures.
As the war drags into the winter, Europe is facing up to a future without any Russian gas. That is a problem for industrial companies who have relied on plentiful supplies of cheap gas delivered through pipelines from Russia.
Experts warn that the likes of Germany and Italy will lose out to factories elsewhere as their competitiveness is hurt, not least by the US. The business model that has been the backbone of Europe’s industrial heartlands may have been broken by the Kremlin.

Carsten Brzeski, chief economist at ING Germany, says there is a “competitiveness issue” that could drive a de-industrialisation in Europe.
“It’s not going to happen overnight but it’s clear the trend is there,” he says.

TL;DR Europe's answer to deindustrialization is going to be... investing in green energy. Yep. That should work, right bros? Right?

 

[Elämällä on väliä]

Ukraine is Russian, don't forget what thread you're in.

Thread infested by soathing ruzzkies, I remember, but still ukraiian wheat goes via EU ports and Odessa to the third world.

So you make 25% more on average, but pay 50% more on utilities and everything else

Well, if for someone bills for electricity are the biggest spending...

Leopard 1's are complete garbage on a modern battlefield.

Will ruzzia capture Bakhmut after or before arriving of Leopards?

No, but the Serbians did. He's chief negotiator with pristina.

That explains why serbian niggers was fuckud in ass in such smoothly way.

Königsberg on the other hand was incredible rich and full of culture.

Before 1945.

“We don’t see it in the data yet … but it is a concern for the future, maybe as soon as this year,” said the economics minister of an EU country.

EU economy will fall just afer T-14 will arrive to Berlin?

Adnan, $22.5k/USD is not the brag you think it is.

It isn't. but comparing ruzzia to a normal country will be cruel. Our ruzzkie boi choosed Bulgaristan, so let it be.

It is funny how quickly ruzzia boi changed optic from "we wuz kangz"to "we are not so terrible compared to a shithole in Bulgaria, we have astoning 3/4 of they salary".