Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread - Episode III - Revenge of the Ruski (now unlocked with new skins and gameplay modes!!!)

[prolapsed_cranium]

The win condition in Syria was overthrowing Assad and establishing an Islamic dictatorship led by Al Qaeda a Jeffersonian democracy of moderate rebels. We lost.

Timber Sycamore made sure that the US only backed moderate head choppers

 

[Tism the Return II]

I honestly dont know what i hate most, overly manly recruitment ads that look like cringy action movies or the woke ones.

Pussy detected.

 

[YumeNoHero]

I'm amazed at how many people in this thread are uncritically regurgitating obvious propaganda. I figured a website like this one which has suffered massive amounts of lies and disinformation in the media would have conditioned its users to be a little bit more skeptical.

Are you talking about the vatniggers or khokhols? I'm sure every single piece of information or media that are gathered here in this thread, be it from Russia, Ukraine or Western media, are propaganda to certain extends AND WE KNOW IT. Only this time around the information (propaganda) and reactions on both side of the conflict seem to collaborate on a general picture that Russia is (slowly) gaining ground in Bakhmut while Ukraine suffering considerable losses. It's making khokhol lovers seethe and I fucking love it.

Nord stream? That's all a pack of lies from a disreputable journalist!!! Look over here!!!!! This is real honest truth!!!!

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Holy shit, the dishonest misdirection is on another level.
>Incident happened almost 9 years ago with no conclusive evidence or even a clue as to why it disappeared.
>MH17's black box was never recovered and its recording expired a long time ago.
>Surprise! It's Putler all along!
I guess next they'll tell me it was Putler who psychically manipulated MH17's pilots from Moscow to divert flight away from HCM airspace to do a dive in Indian Ocean for shit and giggles.

 

[Enoch Emery]

I mean iraq 1991 was no slouch, we kicked their ass pretty hard

Iraq in 1991 just got finished losing to a bunch of Iranian 12 year olds (while having the support of the entire world) and was looking for an easy target to fix the butthurt

The AFU is also planning for an offensive into Russia to take Belgorod and Kursk Oblasts to compensate for the losses in the Donbass.

That's not what the rybar posts says. It says they are planning on psyops to make people think there is going to be an offensive alongside minor attacks.

 

[Romeo]

I read your post and thought "big if true, this will be the first time the Ukraineans take the actual fight to the Russian turf".

But then I read the post you linked and it says "Ukrainian special services are planning to disseminate information about an AFU offensive on Belgorod and Kursk regions". So no, the post is not saying they are actually going to attack, it is saying they will do more of their mind games.

That's not what the rybar posts says. It says they are planning on psyops to make people think there is going to be an offensive alongside minor attacks.

Oof I misread, my mistake! I fell for the propaganda and I guess the Special Services know who to disseminate information to!

 

[The Ugly One]

It was 1st Marines and if you have ever had one that survived tell you what it was like you'd never scoff at "Chinese teenage boys" again-they certainly wouldn't. Underestimating your opponent is the worst thing you can do, and the commander of the People's Volunteer Army was a veteran of the Long March, Sino-Japanese War and Chinese Civil War.

It's one thing to be patriotic and support your nation but when you're at war underestimating your opponent is literally the one thing you cannot indulge in if you want to win.

The Chinese encircled the Marines, outnumbered them 4 to 1, and still took 7 deaths on their side for every Marine killed. Despite the encirclement, they failed to destroy the 1st and ended up having to disband two entire divisions due to the stupendous losses the Marines inflicted on them. That's not impressive at all. The only thing the Americans underestimated is just how many boys Mao was willing to send to their deaths for the cause of Communism.

 

[Abraham Lincoln]

Watching that nigger lover's SOTU last night, well the die is cast and it is to the last hohol.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Are you talking about the vatniggers or khokhols? I'm sure every single piece of information or media that are gathered here in this thread, be it from Russia, Ukraine or Western media, are propaganda to certain extends AND WE KNOW IT. Only this time around the information (propaganda) and reactions on both side of the conflict seem to collaborate on a general picture that Russia is (slowly) gaining ground in Bakhmut while Ukraine suffering considerable losses. It's making khokhol lovers seethe and I fucking love it.

In war, information is weaponized,and especially today, you have to really sift through the chaff.

We mainly underestimated just how many poorly equipped young men Mao was willing to send to their deaths. A lot of Chinks died to push the Marines back at Chosin. Despite encircling UN forces and outnumbering them 4:1, not only did they fail to destroy the 1st, but it was the Chinese, not the Americans who ended up having to disband two entire divisions due to losses. There simply was nothing notable about the PLA in the 1950s other than its size.

Chinese losses were high, much higher than ours, that's absolutely true but our forces were badly battered. It's no secret why MacArthur wanted to drop a nuke.

And in the end, all we managed to do was partition Korea and agree to disagree with China/North Korea. Not really worth the dead and permanently scarred that came home, imo

 

[Blewberry Nausea]

The Chinese encircled the Marines, outnumbered them 4 to 1, and still took 7 deaths on their side for every Marine killed. Despite the encirclement, they failed to destroy the 1st and ended up having to disband two entire divisions due to the stupendous losses the Marines inflicted on them. That's not impressive at all. The only thing the Americans underestimated is just how many boys Mao was willing to send to their deaths for the cause of Communism.

You are talking like some general dealing with statistics. You forget the experiences of the men who were there. The horrors they dealt with. I guess that isn’t important to you.

Nightmare at the Chosin Reservoir – The Campaign for the National Museum of the United States Army

armyhistory.org

Did the Chinese achieve their objectives? Yes
Did they keep North Korea alive to this day? Yes
Did the US Army have to run away? Yes

 

[Feline Supremacist]

You are talking like some general dealing with statistics. You forget the experiences of the men who were there. The horrors they dealt with. I guess that isn’t important to you.

Nightmare at the Chosin Reservoir – The Campaign for the National Museum of the United States Army

armyhistory.org

Did the Chinese achieve their objectives? Yes
Did they keep North Korea alive to this day? Yes
Did the US Army have to run away? Yes

Thanks for posting this and noting the US Army also suffered horrendous casualties. My dad had friends who served in Korea.

SpaceX has limited Ukrainian military access to Starlink satellite communications to control drones. According to company president Gwynne Shotwell, SpaceX does not want its technology to be used for offensive purposes.

Telegram: Contact @loordofwar

t.me

I wonder why, at this time? Seems Elon has a long memory, or someone instructed him to pull the plug.

 

[Blewberry Nausea]

Thanks for posting this and noting the US Army also suffered horrendous casualties. My dad had friends who served in Korea.

SpaceX has limited Ukrainian military access to Starlink satellite communications to control drones. According to company president Gwynne Shotwell, SpaceX does not want its technology to be used for offensive purposes.

Telegram: Contact @loordofwar

t.me

I wonder why, at this time? Seems Elon has a long memory, or someone instructed him to pull the plug.

Your welcome. I grew up on stories of the horrors of warfare, especially when the US thought they were big shit and got caught with their pants down. My dad who luckily never had to serve in a conflict still told me stories of how ass backwards things can be and how command rarely worries about how costly their orders are. I won’t say those men fought hard and killed a lot of Chinese, but A.) Killing sucks especially for pozzed reasons. and B.) The end result simply meant Korea would never be whole. That was the whole point for Chinese interests. And considering China has had multiple wars that inflicted millions of casualties I cannot fathom how anyone would think they weren’t willing to spill blood for making sure the US puppet state didn’t share a border.

 

[Cpt. Stud Beefpile]

Watching that nigger lover's SOTU last night, well the die is cast and it is to the last hohol.

Can't say i'm too surprised.

Besides legitimately not wanting a lot of his people to end up in Soviet deathcamps, the Ukrainian leadership has to be under one if not several "don't you dare surrender" ultimatums. Be they from ZOG, the American pResident, or some sinister organization we don't know about.

Ukraine has two uses to the people supporting it - as a live-fire testbed against Russian army for NATO equipment and for money-laundering. They are not going to give up the latter until the last cat is hung.

 

[White_N]

Perfect time to post this:
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Make a video with music from a Russian game in which the Russian prince beats the rebellious region into submission, to dunk on Russians and fail spectacularly, what kind of gypsy is doing that?

 

[Blewberry Nausea]

I dunno if this is relevant but considering rumors of Polish involvement in Ukraine I guess they cut a deal with Korea to arm up? Delete if off topic.

Korea looks to sell weapons to Romania following lucrative deal with Poland

Korean arms manufacturers are seeking to expand weapons exports to East European countries following a mega defense deal signed with Poland last year, according to the Korea Chamber of Commerce and Industry (KCCI), Thursday. In July of last year, Poland signed a basic contract to import about 20...

www.koreatimes.co.kr

Korea looks to sell weapons to Romania following lucrative deal with …

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archive.ph

I am no expert I don’t know how good Korean tanks and howitzers are but that does seem like a lot for a country not at war.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

I dunno if this is relevant but considering rumors of Polish involvement in Ukraine I guess they cut a deal with Korea to arm up? Delete if off topic.

Korea looks to sell weapons to Romania following lucrative deal with Poland

Korean arms manufacturers are seeking to expand weapons exports to East European countries following a mega defense deal signed with Poland last year, according to the Korea Chamber of Commerce and Industry (KCCI), Thursday. In July of last year, Poland signed a basic contract to import about 20...

www.koreatimes.co.kr

Korea looks to sell weapons to Romania following lucrative deal with …

archived 9 Feb 2023 07:13:46 UTC

archive.ph

I am no expert I don’t know how good Korean tanks and howitzers are but that does seem like a lot for a country not at war.

I think its because Ramzan Kadyrov is taking the piss


But seems to have thrown the Polacken into a panic, given everything else going on.

Top Putin Ally Says He ‘Will Not Hide’ Intention to Invade Poland Anymore

“After all, after Ukraine, Poland is on the map,” Ramzan Kadyrov said before announcing what seemed to be a made-up deadline for a Russian war victory.

www.thedailybeast.com

 

[Blewberry Nausea]

Kek it must be awesome to just troll like that in international politics. I wish I could feel that comfy.

 

[GatorAids]

I have some questions for the pro-Russian/DNR/LPR people. Not to debate or argue the questions but just because I am curious as to individuals opinions in the greater sphere of pro-Russian members. If possible just answer whether you agree with the statement in general or not.

1: The population of a portion of a nation should have/does have the right to hold a vote on secession and formation of a new independent nation.
2: If the majority of the vote on secession is in the affirmative the new independent nation should be allowed to be formed.
3: If the new nation faces resistance to it's formation from the national government, whether through overt force, subversion, or threat of force it has the right and duty to uphold the result of the vote and obtain/defend it's independence with force if necessary.
4: If the government of a nation attempts to stop a vote on secession or the formation of a new independent nation after a vote in the affirmative then that government could accurately be described as an enemy of the seceding nation/people.

 

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

The Chinese encircled the Marines, outnumbered them 4 to 1, and still took 7 deaths on their side for every Marine killed. Despite the encirclement, they failed to destroy the 1st and ended up having to disband two entire divisions due to the stupendous losses the Marines inflicted on them. That's not impressive at all. The only thing the Americans underestimated is just how many boys Mao was willing to send to their deaths for the cause of Communism.

Regarding the whole quantity is a quality all it's own debate, I'm willing to admit that sure, war have been won by countries that prioritized sheer vast numbers and didn't really care about quality.

But I think the more notable issue is that at the end of the day, even after the Quantity over Quality country won the war or made it a stalemate like the Korean war, almost everytime they're the ones with more dead and wounded, so another argument can easily be made that if they paid more attention to quality, they would have both won the war and not have significantly more casualties then the country they defeated at the end of the day.

 

[SIMIΔN]

Regarding the whole quantity is a quality all it's own debate, I'm willing to admit that sure, war have been won by countries that prioritized sheer vast numbers and didn't really care about quality.

But I think the more notable issue is that at the end of the day, even after the Quantity over Quality country won the war or made it a stalemate like the Korean war, almost everytime they're the ones with more dead and wounded, so another argument can easily be made that if they paid more attention to quality, they would have both won the war and not have significantly more casualties then the country they defeated at the end of the day.

In the case of the Korean war, many of the Chinese soldiers had former ties to the old government or the warlords, so may have been seen as a political liability.
Mao Zedong was one heartless bugger, so it wouldn't surprise me if the casualties were seen as a feature not a bug.

 

[Doinker Marmalade]

That's not actually true at all. US aircraft suffered massively during the Vietnam war, the perils of heliborne and close in CAS operations.

List of aircraft losses of the Vietnam War - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Over 11,000 aircraft is not an insignificant amount to loss (nearly half of all helicopters in theatre).
They hardly ran out of "all the good shit" almost instantly, they shot down US planes like fly's for basically 6 years and these are America's numbers on losses....

Also the North Vietnamese air force had an incredible amount of air aces, those mig21's got really fed up of shooting down F4's and F105's.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_losses_of_the_Vietnam_War

As much as people like to ape on the Russian air force they certainly haven't lost that many planes in Ukraine even if the war theoretically went on for 6 years, and remember the only plane to shoot down an F18 was an old Mig 25 Foxbat (lovely looking plane).

Iraqi MiG-25 Foxbat Pilot explains how he was able to shoot down Lt Cdr Speicher’s F/A-18 Hornet the first night of Operation Desert Storm - The Aviation Geek Club

Iraqi MiG-25 Foxbat Pilot explains how he was able to shoot down Lt Cdr Speicher’s F/A-18 Hornet the first night of Operation Desert Storm

theaviationgeekclub.com

Sorry for using wiki as the reference it was just the fastest source but many other places cover the info.
Do some research on past wars before spouting misinformation for those not in the know.

What the FUCK? I can't wrap my mind around those numbers.
So basically, at the current (Oryx claimed, lmao) rate, Russia would have to fight in Ukraine for 52 years to lose as many fixed-wing aircraft and 73 years to lose as many helicopters. And it is Russia who gets dunked on???? I'm sorry but losing almost 10,000 aircraft hardly qualifies as 'we got tired and left'.