Plagued /r/TNOmod and the Reddit HOI4 modding community - When a subreddit for a video game mod turns to utter insanity

under_scores said:
Pro-Japexico could be intriguing, but yeah with nations like those it's a whole lot of work to really be interesting. Only place I can respect it as a worthwhile use of dev time is the South America stuff, where it was pretty much just a single really passionate native (or a small team now, probably) that got their submod integrated because there'd never be much there anyway. Leads to way too many annoying events about Paraguay coups and such but it's a decent model for places like that, IMO places like the Balkans and Central Asia could also be farmed out to natives well enough as long as they wouldn't be butthurt about said places plausibly being rolled over in the lategame.
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I think TNO is one of the only mods where having places like Central and South America fleshed out would actually make sense since part of the Cold War should be proxy wars in places like these.
 
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Moja Zemlja said:
I think TNO is one of the only mods where having places like Central and South America fleshed out would actually make sense since part of the Cold War should be proxy wars in places like these.
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The one smart idea the TrooNO devs have regarding South America at least is the (intended) focus on just two nations having actual trees and mechanics, Brazil and Argentina. Those two are basically the biggest powerhouses in South America (I would've added Colombia as the third, but they made Colombia into another four-way civil war tag) and flesh out both sides of South America. With Brazil you have tropical South America with access to the Caribbean and Argentina covers the southern colder region of South America with perhaps content related to the Falklands and Antarctica. Both tags even have a South American 'Cold War' mechanic with one another (Argentina vs Brazil) and have their own spheres of influence in addition to also being subject to other spheres of influences.

I dunno which Central American country deserves an actual focus tree if there was one though, unless you count Mexico as part of Central America instead of North America. Maybe Costa Rica since it isn't a shithole compared to other Central American nations?
 
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BernieRose said:
I dunno which Central American country deserves an actual focus tree if there was one though, unless you count Mexico as part of Central America instead of North America. Maybe Costa Rica since it isn't a shithole compared to other Central American nations?
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Personally I think none of it should have focus trees, often none of these countries have any actual impact on the game regardless of mod and exist only to slow it down with pointless shit.
 
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Moja Zemlja said:
Personally I think none of it should have focus trees, often none of these countries have any actual impact on the game regardless of mod and exist only to slow it down with pointless shit.
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Pretty much this to be honest. Though I'd at least throw in a bone for Castro's Cuba since they out of all nations in the real life Cold War, were able to intervene in international conflicts, like sending troops to Angola in OTL.
It's not much of course, but there is there some novelty in playing as a Castro's Cuba that is somehow allied to the United States in an alternate timeline, even if the lore for it doesn't make total sense, it's a interesting concept at least.

inb4 TrooNO devs retcon the Cuba lore and remove Castro, condemning that nation to being a boring mess with generic elections and military juntas like literally any other Latin America tag lol
 
Its over for Burgundy bros. Himmler is being made a Fuhrer candidate. Devs deleted this as soon as it was posted, went into damage control mode and the dev was banned from the server that leaked it.
 

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Amazing they are actively destroying the mod. Not your regular "they ruined it" but the advanced "Disney Sequel Trilogy" type of going back and deleting the canon.

I am pretty sure they just want to make a entirely new mod but don't want to lose the established community and subscribers. It explains all the shit they are doing. They could just start a different mod and really go all out on their new plot ideas, but they are so creatively bankrupt, corrupt and lazy they will destroy whatever is left of TNO instead to do it.

Rip in piss The New Order it was a funny trainwreck while it lasted. I guess it is back to Kaiserreich as the premier HOI4 Total Conversion.
 
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Corpun said:
Is Kaiserreich even any fun anymore? It's probably been over a year since I played base game Kaiserreich.
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For now mostly, but it's got the muh realism crowd eating away at it like a tumor, along with a bit of REWOOOOORKing going on.
 
General Emílio Médici said:
Amazing they are actively destroying the mod. Not your regular "they ruined it" but the advanced "Disney Sequel Trilogy" type of going back and deleting the canon.

I am pretty sure they just want to make a entirely new mod but don't want to lose the established community and subscribers. It explains all the shit they are doing. They could just start a different mod and really go all out on their new plot ideas, but they are so creatively bankrupt, corrupt and lazy they will destroy whatever is left of TNO instead to do it.

Rip in piss The New Order it was a funny trainwreck while it lasted. I guess it is back to Kaiserreich as the premier HOI4 Total Conversion.
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Corpun said:
Is Kaiserreich even any fun anymore? It's probably been over a year since I played base game Kaiserreich.
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KR sucks and got overrun with unironic syndieboos/Internet communists long ago, it's been years since they axed fun longstanding content for being 'problematic' like Ungern-Sternberg's rampage as Genghis Khan II or Organic (Integralist) Brazil being able to go to Africa. Conversely AFAIK the CSA is still a leftist wish fulfillment fantasy, including an event about a sexual revolution being brought to wartorn 1930s-40s America by no less than Magnus Hirschfeld and Harry Hay (literally a staunch NAMBLA supporter).

KR code said:
csa.24.d:0 "With the social revolution in full swing, Congress has passed the Family Code of [GetYear]. The Family Code is a revolutionary code that is driven by an ideological desire to wither away the capitalist model of the family to be replaced by a socialist model of the familial free unions based on mutual love and respect.\n\nThus to that end the code included a number of revolutionary changes. It abolishes all impediments to marriage, the biggest one being the abolition of anti-miscegenation laws. Civil marriage is now the only legal type of marriage. The code establishes no-grounds divorce, with both spouses receiving equal division of the property at the time of divorce. Also abolished is the concept of illegitimacy. Now all children are entitled to parental support and equal rights under the law.\n\nFurthermore in accordance with the revolutionary laws regarding the family, adoption of children that were made homeless by the revolution is subsidized. The European concept of Free Love is still under consideration, as well as decriminalizing homosexual behaviour. A Committee of Sexology, led by Magnus Hirschfeld, Wilhelm Reich, Harry Hay and Alain Leroy Locke are still locked in debate over how to approach this."
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Kaiserredux is where it's at. They also have a vastly more sensible setup for the 2ACW in general (incorporated from another mod, Home of the Brave) including things like the Western Feds being a separate tag so MacArthur can focus on fighting in the East without getting divisions easily encircled in the Rockies, Huey Long leading his own agrarian-populist faction in the Great Plains while an alliance of the KKK, Dixiecrat political machines & big business occupies the South (he hated those guys and was hated by them in turn IRL), New York City and the Southern blacks being able to rise up as independent factions in their own right instead of being folded into the CSA, and the CSA's leaders & subfactions reflecting actual left-wing thought from the 1930s rather than the wish fulfillment fantasies of sexually frustrated commie troons on today's Internet. Other than that (by far my favorite aspect of KX) they also have so much more content than base KR it's not even funny, including the lost content for countries like Mongolia & Brazil which they've even expanded on.
 
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Chuckwagon said:
KR sucks and got overrun with unironic syndieboos/Internet communists long ago, it's been years since they axed fun longstanding content for being 'problematic' like Ungern-Sternberg's rampage as Genghis Khan II or Organic (Integralist) Brazil being able to go to Africa. Conversely AFAIK the CSA is still a leftist wish fulfillment fantasy, including an event about a sexual revolution being brought to wartorn 1930s-40s America by no less than Magnus Hirschfeld and Harry Hay (literally a staunch NAMBLA supporter).


Kaiserredux is where it's at. They also have a vastly more sensible setup for the 2ACW in general (incorporated from another mod, Home of the Brave) including things like the Western Feds being a separate tag so MacArthur can focus on fighting in the East without getting divisions easily encircled in the Rockies, Huey Long leading his own agrarian-populist faction in the Great Plains while an alliance of the KKK, Dixiecrat political machines & big business occupies the South (he hated those guys and was hated by them in turn IRL), New York City and the Southern blacks being able to rise up as independent factions in their own right instead of being folded into the CSA, and the CSA's leaders & subfactions reflecting actual left-wing thought from the 1930s rather than the wish fulfillment fantasies of sexually frustrated commie troons on today's Internet. Other than that (by far my favorite aspect of KX) they also have so much more content than base KR it's not even funny, including the lost content for countries like Mongolia & Brazil which they've even expanded on.
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I knew Kaiserreich was a bit pozzed with commies but I was unaware of them going so far. Good think Redux is around to keep the fun going.
 
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RA-5C Vigilante said:
For now mostly, but it's got the muh realism crowd eating away at it like a tumor, along with a bit of REWOOOOORKing going on.
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I played National France which was reworked. And while the new content was ok overall holy shit did they add multiple paragraph long events. You can feel the TNO-ification creeping in.
 
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Horrible Pilled said:
Its over for Burgundy bros. Himmler is being made a Fuhrer candidate. Devs deleted this as soon as it was posted, went into damage control mode and the dev was banned from the server that leaked it.
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So if Burgundy gets put down like what most people in the thread think it will be, what becomes of France, Belguim and RK Kaukasien?
 
General Emílio Médici said:
I knew Kaiserreich was a bit pozzed with commies but I was unaware of them going so far. Good think Redux is around to keep the fun going.
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Kaiserredux is great but I'm really starting to hate all the insipid bullshit they're adding to random tags slowing the game down even more.
EpicGamerMoment said:
I played National France which was reworked. And while the new content was ok overall holy shit did they add multiple paragraph long events. You can feel the TNO-ification creeping in.
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The UoB update they stalled I think has some Mosley downfall circlejerk porn because le fascist man bad.
 
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