Trainwreck Jill C Noyes Rodrigues / David Rodrigues / Rodrigues Family Ministries / Rodrigues Family Serving Jesus / All Things Truth Printing Ministry - Batshit MLM-shill narc mom of 13 starving children and her jobless "headship". Grifting and drifting across the US in an RV. Wanted by WV CPS.

Forgive me if this has been discussed before, but does courtship always end in marriage?
Not necessarily. Nurie has a failed courtship to a dentist, who realizNurie was far too undereducated to teach any children they might have. Josh Dugger's first courtship ended because they learned he was an unphased child molester.

As long as Jill and Aunt Ellen don't get into a catfight again, this marriage should go through. But Jill has pissed Ellen off before.
 
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So then it was the crappy resolution and modest dress that made her appear odd. She and he in these pics appear cute and normal. Great!
Indeed, the only thing particularly noteworthy about her appearance is how little chin she has, but Heidi is fairly pretty (and much more attractive than Tim).

I would say her willingness to wear a shapeless sack and Chinese factory-made fake pearls (and immortalizing it by wearing it in a video where she announces a huge milestone in her life) is more questionable about her than her appearance, but it’s Jill Rodrigues’ World, they all just live in it.

(Hopefully Mahmo-in-law stays the fuck away from her eyebrows.)
 
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I'm always amused that fundies take the King James Bible as the ~~ literal ~~ word of God. Like any of these fools know Aramaic, or ancient Greek, and can interpret the earliest scriptures... which are still a game of religious Telephone from the actual word of Yeshua of Bethlehem.

I wonder if any of them have ever heard of the Dead Sea Scrolls. Or any of the scriptures that got booted at the Council of Nicaea? Do they know that Jebus's birthday was switched up to coincide with Saturnalia, to get the pagans to agree to party and exchange gifts in the name of Jesus instead of Saturn? Nah, better just agree that a bunch of English nobleman clergy had access to the actual word of God in the 17th century, 1600 years after the Jewish Buddha walked the earth, and he agrees with Bill Gothard that the ghadly way to live is by having a toe and 80s perm fetish.
I've also always been amused by fundies and their obsession with the KJV. But that's mostly because King James himself may have been bisexual.
 
@LonesomeDud, I understand where you are coming from, but try to stay calm and avoid fighting with other users. The rest of you, try not to be too harsh on the new girl.
She's homely, but that's ok, homely girls need lovin' too. I'm more concerned about what kind of husband Timmy is gonna be and if baby cages will appear at Nurie's place.
 
If I'm understanding things correctly, "courtship" is just a sneaky way of saying "arranged marriage".

Dating as a precursor to marriage.
It made it into the popular lexicon thanks to 1990s purity culture and books like I Kissed Dating Goodbye.

Incidentally, the author of that book, Joshua Harris, is now a divorced atheist; he had the book withdrawn from publication, and apologized for the damage it caused. His new grift is anti-Purity Culture seminars and a tell-all book where he whines about how sowwy he is for ruining relationships for a generation of vulnerable teens. (His ex-wife is also writing a book about how much her life sucked as the wife of an evangelical pastor.)

As someone who was briefly suckered into Purity Culture as a teen, I find it equal parts hilarious and infuriating.
 
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She turned 19 two days ago.
Okay. I guess if there's a contest proving who cares more, hands down, it's you.
And she goofy looking af, why do we need to dance around this fact.
Oh, that's not my issue. My issue is couching it as well-intentioned discussion when it's making fun of her for being ugly. It's Kiwi Farms. It's acceptable to be mean-spirited. I just get a little retarded when people are disingenuous and snarky toward someone who (as far as I can tell) doesn't seem to deserve it. It annoys me.


Edit: who was more ecstatic to scream "LEAVE AND CLEAVE, BABY!" at their eldest son? Michelle Duggar, or JillPM?
Michelle. Tim doesn't molest his sisters. Tim can earn money of his own accord and contribute to the household financially and physically. There is a decent chance the bride will be moving into the RV and then house when Jill gets bulit by the travelin' bug.
@LonesomeDud, I understand where you are coming from, but try to stay calm and avoid fighting with other users.
I'm sorry.

On another topic: The clothing choices she has are strange. Bright red dress that's too big. I believe Gothard fundies also do not wear bright red, which makes me wonder where the dress even came from. Aunt Ellen's closet? Why would Aunt Ellen own a bright red dress? Where does she wear that dress to? Did Jill buy/find that dress in a dumpster and give it to Milk or whatever her name is? And the green, tea length gown in winter is just weird. She looks nice in it, but it feels like the wrong season and environment. I also feel it's showing too much skin, relative to what the standard is for conservative Christians, but these guys seem to think if their thighs, midriffs, and chests are covered, they're good. Again, it might just be some weird paranoia, but I feel like this girl's body is being put on display by Jill. I could be wrong.

Since Jill curates and cherry picks everything, I think there's a chance Jill is doing that, and trying to make her look as bad as possible. I hate to see someone scorned by the Rods, Kiwis, and everyone when she really hasn't done anything other than not be very bright or beautiful.
 
which makes me wonder where the dress even came from
It was a 19th birthday present from Timmay. Since the women in Heidi's family wear sluttish PANTS, I'm sure Tim has had numerous talks with Heidi about how wrong and horrible pants are on women, and how he expects better from her as his promised wife.

Here is a photo of Heidi taken by her mother on her birthday. Heidi stopped wearing pants some time around last spring, but you can see here that when given a choice, she wears age appropriate and fitted clothing. That skirt doesn't even cover her knees while seated, escandelo!
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The massively oversized red dress (and the tacky necklace) is a little hint from Tim about how he expects her to dress. The revealing neckline was probably an accident that stems from Tim wanting her clothes loose, and there wasn't enough time between the birthday and the courtship announcement to sew in a MAHDESTY panel.

Here's the dress she wore to Kaylee's wedding (she'sthe center one in the group wearing a massively oversized jacket and skirt) - and low, there is Tim lurking in the background. Noticing a theme here?
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The clothing choices she has are strange.
I agree when it comes to the red dress, especially considering that if you look through the mom's Facebook you can see that Heidi wears "normal" clothes @multiverse explained the red dress in the post above mine. And she's worn red before (last pic is taken from Heidi's Facebook).
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I also feel it's showing too much skin, relative to what the standard is for conservative Christians
Well here's what Aunt Ellen has to say about that.
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So I guess that's why they are permissive and even allow sleeveless tops??
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In the last pic above Heidi was a bridesmaid at her older sister's wedding who got married in June 2022.
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I agree when it comes to the red dress, especially considering that if you look through the mom's Facebook you can see that Heidi wears "normal" clothes @multiverse explained the red dress in the post above mine. And she's worn red before (last pic is taken from Heidi's Facebook).
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Well here's what Aunt Ellen has to say about that.
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So I guess that's why they are permissive and even allow sleeveless tops??
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In the last pic above Heidi was a bridesmaid at her older sister's wedding who got married in June 2022.
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Oh, well, Aunt Ellen is as tacky as Jill. Surprise, surprise. Nice touch insulting the Amish. In that spirit, you don't have to have your areolas making unbreaking eye contact with every elder to be immodest, Ellen. I guess we're all learning new things, even the stupid, backwards plain people.

Aunt Ellen is going to ride roughshod all over Tim and I'm here for the inevitable "Tim married a devil!" saga. I am looking forward to it. If anyone messes up this courtship, I will be beside myself.

@multiverse - I'm simultaneously fascinated by the story of the dress and wish to never speak of it again.

This Aunt Ellen has really shaken things up around here. Is she planning to be the next MLM queen? She's going around like some slick NYC yenta. It's funny but weird.
 
Jill's bugged out eyeballs can only see the very model of a man when she watches Fat Dave and his stick-out ears stumble through a sermon. If she let the reality of her marriage seep in even just for a moment, she'd probably start sobbing uncontrollably and never be able to stop: she's built her life on taking direction from a fat, lazy, permanently unemployed spic who ignores her most of the time.
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Lol you are 100% correct, and I can't read and vodka at the same time.
What fucking genetic disorder gives him those giant dumbo ears
 
Picturing Jillpm on her knees BEGGING the lord for a sweetheart who has a heart to submit to Timmy, like Cousin Heidi. Also, the courtship ring does not fit at all-- looks huge on poor little CH. Couldn't have asked for her ring size first? Yikes. Or, given how petite she is, rings off the rack at Target probably don't fit her (same problem I have, but I get them altered), and Timmy certainly wasn't going to put out the money for a ring from a real jeweler.
 
She turned 19 two days ago.

And she goofy looking af, why do we need to dance around this fact.



Edit: who was more ecstatic to scream "LEAVE AND CLEAVE, BABY!" at their eldest son? Michelle Duggar, or JillPM?

She writes a hysterical post about how she just BEGGED and PRAYED and DREAMED that some docile little nothing would take Tim off her hands - but also be pliant enough to obey Jill in all respects.
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Photos of the new couple. They shall breed a new line of completely chinless children together.
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This last screenshot off Jill's phone tells us a lot: Jill uses a Samsung. She and Shrek apparently still control Nurie's phone, because they had one delivered to her (lol like a lost or broken phone can stop Jill from calling you 20 times a day, Nurie - nice try though!). And Jill has no taking creep shots of her adult children.
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"Praise the Lord! It is official! Timothy has entered a God honoring courtship with Heidi Coverett! OG We are so blessed! I have spent many years, on my knees, BEGGING God to bring a godly mate into Timothy's life."

Jill hates Tim so much.

Only Jill not only puts herself as the subject of an announcement that she, directing God, has found her son her son has found a probable wife, but emphasizes how LONG it took and the weeping, gnashing, clothes-rending prostration before God it required of her to find him one. Not even a tactful, "my wonderful boy and his lovely intended," oh no; it's "I had to work so hard because not even God freely smiles on my loser failure of an eldest son." Public sideways humiliation of your child is not how good mothers do it, Jill.
 
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In the last pic above Heidi was a bridesmaid at her older sister's wedding who got married in June 2022.

I want to know more about the one with the tattoos and the reasonably hot one next to CH. Are the Coveretts permissive/worldly enough to let their kids have close friends that are that non-fundie?

Also, CH looks 14 in those restaurant pictures. Not sure if Jill is going to rave about how skinny she is during her inevitable late 2023/early 2024 pregnancy or buy her dresses four sizes too big and claim she thought they would fit just right.
 
Oh, well, Aunt Ellen is as tacky as Jill. Surprise, surprise. Nice touch insulting the Amish. In that spirit, you don't have to have your areolas making unbreaking eye contact with every elder to be immodest, Ellen. I guess we're all learning new things, even the stupid, backwards plain people.

Aunt Ellen is going to ride roughshod all over Tim and I'm here for the inevitable "Tim married a devil!" saga. I am looking forward to it. If anyone messes up this courtship, I will be beside myself.

@multiverse - I'm simultaneously fascinated by the story of the dress and wish to never speak of it again.

This Aunt Ellen has really shaken things up around here. Is she planning to be the next MLM queen? She's going around like some slick NYC yenta. It's funny but weird.
Maybe Aunt Ellen will earn her own thread one day.
 
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Are the Coveretts permissive/worldly enough to let their kids have close friends that are that non-fundie?
Honestly I'm a bit perplexed by this family but at the same time I don't come from this world so I don't know what's normal.

The oldest daughter Hallie dated/was together with her husband for 4 years before getting married.
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This sister also has an active Tiktok account that she was posting to even before getting married. What I find interesting is that the middle sister Hope (pic of the sisters with names and birth order is below) is featured several times in the old videos starting from Dec 2021, but there's no trace of Heidi. Also Hallie makes a video with Hope where she uses the hashtag #besties and in the video the text is "when your big sister/bestie gets engaged".
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Based on this I wonder if Heidi felt left out and maybe also like the ugly duckling in comparison to her sisters who have similar features. Her personality might also differ from her sisters with them being more outgoing and maybe she's more shy. Then Tim comes along showing her some attention and maybe that's all it took for her to want to date him. She wouldn't be the first woman in history this has happened to. I only hope Tim will treat her nicely.
 
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