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One nice thing TV Tropes did for me though.... I wound up Wiki-walking and wound up discovering the existence of this:


So a little bit of sailing later, I watch the first episode and... how come nobody told me about this?

I mean full stop, Three Caballeros is one of the best things Disney ever produced, and this seems to be doing it justice. They even brought back the freaking Aracuan in a way that made him work in context.

Also I'm gonna give Ducktales 2017 another shot.

I tried it before but didn't like what I saw, most notably Webby--its one of those cases where while I didn't like the 1980s Webby either, she was at least bland and inoffensive whereas new Webby was just trying too hard to be cute and quirky.

But now I'm in a mood for Disney Ducks.... that, and everything I've read says the new show ends up becoming this crazy Disney Afternoon crossover fanfic. Like apparently Don Karnage is a recurring villain? Like okay, if that's true... then why does Scrooge hire Launchpad and not Baloo?

My real question though is this: Considering D2017 has Scrooge and co fighting everyone else's villains, did they still find a way to squeeze in my man Merlock?

(... Kinda also considering giving Talespin another shot too. As a kid I always thought Talespin was stupid, but there's a lot of cartoons I hated as a kid but grew an appreciation for later in life).

..... Hey, that's a topic: Have you guys ever had a cartoon you hated as a kid but liked as an adult?
 
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skykiii said:
I was just on TV Tropes (yeah I know) reading the YMMV for the Hulu Animaniacs... and apparently some fans like to say Dot is MTF and Yakko is FTM.
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TV tropes; good for when you got nothing better to do, just try to remember its written by idiots.
skykiii said:
On that note a friend convinced me to watch one episode of Hulu Animaniacs, saying it was okay to judge the entire series by the one episode. That episode was "Good Warner Hunting."
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Slappy's appearance in this last season plus hints at a possible return of minerva mink and hello nurse (who was more or less ms bellum=ed because grown women with breasts=bad but underage little girls twerking=good apparently) were all last minute changes since hulu decided to ax the series with this third and final season. supposedly to avoid competition with the upcoming Tiny Toons reboot on netflix. Congrats animaniacs 2021 you lasted less than the original show and left far less an impact.
 
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Midwit said:
Superheroes can be used to explore some interesting ideas, but you can't really do that with pre-existing characters because you'll have fanboys raging about how it's inaccurate to the source material.
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That’s true on both accounts.

I remember two versions of Batman I liked as a kid. But I still think superheroes are overrated.
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Like, literally how the fuck do these people's brains work? In-universe they are drawings that came to life. The closest the Warners could possibly come to "transitioning" is if Dot wore boy clothes for awhile.
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Like @A Grey Cat said, they’re idiots.
 
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skykiii said:
One nice thing TV Tropes did for me though.... I wound up Wiki-walking and wound up discovering the existence of this:


So a little bit of sailing later, I watch the first episode and... how come nobody told me about this?

I mean full stop, Three Caballeros is one of the best things Disney ever produced, and this seems to be doing it justice. They even brought back the freaking Aracuan in a way that made him work in context.

Also I'm gonna give Ducktales 2017 another shot.

I tried it before but didn't like what I saw, most notably Webby--its one of those cases where while I didn't like the 1980s Webby either, she was at least bland and inoffensive whereas new Webby was just trying too hard to be cute and quirky.

But now I'm in a mood for Disney Ducks.... that, and everything I've read says the new show ends up becoming this crazy Disney Afternoon crossover fanfic. Like apparently Don Karnage is a recurring villain? Like okay, if that's true... then why does Scrooge hire Launchpad and not Baloo?

My real question though is this: Considering D2017 has Scrooge and co fighting everyone else's villains, did they still find a way to squeeze in my man Merlock?

(... Kinda also considering giving Talespin another shot too. As a kid I always thought Talespin was stupid, but there's a lot of cartoons I hated as a kid but grew an appreciation for later in life).

..... Hey, that's a topic: Have you guys ever had a cartoon you hated as a kid but liked as an adult?
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kek they made this despite the "warning" the film has for offensive content on disney plus. How the fuck is that movie even racist??
 
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kek they made this despite the "warning" the film has for offensive content on disney plus. How the fuck is that movie even racist??
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The only theory I have is they just slap that warning on any movie that features/depicts foreign cultures at all. Which in the typical idiocy of wokedom is actually way more racist than the thing they're "warning" us about.

Indeed, apparently the whole reason Three Caballeros got a series at all is because the film is actually really iconic in many parts of the world outside the US. Clearly, Mexicans and Brazillians had no problem with it. But Americans always have to be idiots and assume people will be "offended." Just like with Speedy Gonzalez.
 
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So I just survived seven episodes of Ducktales 2017.... God. Some of the concepts are okay but it has the typical modern cartoon problem of everybody having these exaggerated ironic hipster personalities.

Also, Webby is super inconsistent. Like, one episode she;s too stupid to understand how to lie to get free drinks... but then a few episodes later she makes up a full backstory for herself (complete with authentic British accent) to full the Beagle Boys. Also the same episode where she has trouble lying also shows she has a copy of the Art of War which she apparently respects enough to think it should be carried around everywhere.

Like... I was gonna say "just because the show is for kids doesn't mean it should feel like kids actually wrote it" but actually I think literal children would honestly write better than this.
 
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slob on mi knob said:
kek they made this despite the "warning" the film has for offensive content on disney plus. How the fuck is that movie even racist??
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I fail to see how Joe Carioca is racist. He's literally an amalgamation of every Brazilian ever. I know because I'm half-Brazilian myself.

And I'm pretty sure Panchito is well-regarded in Mexico in the same way Speedy Gonzalez is.
 
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Yuuichirou Kumada said:
I fail to see how Joe Carioca is racist. He's literally an amalgamation of every Brazilian ever. I know because I'm half-Brazilian myself.

And I'm pretty sure Panchito is well-regarded in Mexico in the same way Speedy Gonzalez is.
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Says a lot about us uptight Americans that we now think this way.
 
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Niggerphobe said:
They are making a new tmnt movie
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>Seth Rogen is making it
>April looks like a sheboon (I mean shit, even her Rise incarnation looked better)
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I don't have high hopes.
 
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Vyse Inglebard said:
>an enthnically diverse kid gets made an intergalactic ambassador of Earth
Wow! What an original concept Pixar! Surely nobody, especially not your parent company, has done the exact same idea before!
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These writers/animators today are just creatively bankrupt. Everybody just copies off of each other.

I mean, they could’ve at least put a spin on it.
 
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Scooby Doo x DC crossover movie that was canceled then leaked on 4chan.Uploaded for archival purposes.
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Oh hey, Ryan Estrada! I 'member him from that Count Your Sheep guest comic he did.
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And also this horror themed rom-com short comic story. Seriously give it a read, it's much better than it sounds.
Oh yeah, and the Scooby/Krypto movie being cancelled sucks too I guess
 
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Vyse Inglebard said:
>Seth Rogen is making it
>April looks like a sheboon (I mean shit, even her Rise incarnation looked better)
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I don't have high hopes.
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Following the trend of blackwashing gingers like the Rise of TMNT series lol.

I feel that ever since Into The Spiderverse, all the studios are now doing the 2D-3D animation combo, which aesthetically is more pleasing to the eye and is more likely to succeed. However, I feel that this trend is limited, because you need a good story to have a good animated film, not just the medium it uses. I feel that in this age, too many films will implement this 2D-3D animation medium without using good stories and the audience would soon be tired of the medium if the market is bloated with bad 2D-3D animated films. Films would then fail, and studios would just revert back to 3D animation or to something worse, shoving the 2D-3D style in the trash.

Niggerphobe said:
They are making a new tmnt movie
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Media version of the link.
 
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I admit, I'm a huge TMNT fan and always try to give every version a fair shake at first. April's design aside, if she's heading back to the comic roots of being the older sister figure and outside link to the world, I'm game - it's time for a change of pace. The turtles acting like actual teens can be charming if done right. And of course, it was fun seeing the trailer in action. Spider-verse style seems to work well.

Outside "modernizing" aspects for good and ill, it keeps giving me vibes of someone who remembers 1987 from their childhood... but through the toys and merchandise than actual episodes of the show, if that makes sense. The weapons are the biggest sign of that being carbon copies of the ones the '87 toys had, but so is the fact the characters themselves give me the sense they can be adapted to action figures really easy in terms of anatomy vis-a-vis toy molds. The urban, grungy aesthetic going on here reminds me of the art the action figure cards or playset/vehicle box art used a lot as well. I'll confess I like that though.
 
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