Life is Hell...
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So i was going through a Summer Camp Island thread on /co/, where i randomly stumbled upon this...
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>an enthnically diverse kid gets made an intergalactic ambassador of Earth
Wow! What an original concept Pixar! Surely nobody, especially not your parent company, has done the exact same idea before!
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Was that scene an attempt to try to mimic the lows in the Total Drama series or something, given that the title of Summer Camp Island could be seen as a bargain-store rip-off.
But I don't know if this scene is as low as the infamous fart fairy episode in DramaRama.
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@Basic Blond Boy
My own metric for Superhero tends to be divided in two:
There's the superhero genre, and then there's superhero characters.
For example, He-Man himself is a superhero as he's got a lot of the trappings, but I wouldn't consider He-Man and the Masters of the Universe itself a superhero work, more just an adventurous fantasy that just happens to contain a superhero.
Stuff like Ben 10 or Mighty Max to me is, at best, superhero adjacent.
Blue Falcon I would consider being part of the actual Superhero genre--just its Hanna-Barbera's own specific take on it. Likewise Kamen Rider is a superhero work, just its Toei's specific take on that genre.
For me, what makes a character a superhero is actually pretty simple once I thought about it--masks/costumes. He-Man is a superhero because he essentially changes form (metaphorically putting on a costume) to bring out his full-power state. Lion-O isn't a superhero because he just is who he is the whole time. Superman holds himself back when he's in Clark Kent disguise and only allows himself to use most of his power when he's in the tights. Kamen Rider can't kick ass until they henshin. So on and so forth.
Meanwhile the Ninja Turtles are always Ninja Turtles. Yeah they sometimes put on those human masks but that's actually an enabler--it lets them get pizza or something without being jumped by half of New York. It's not quite the same as Batman acting as Bruce Wayne or Superman acting as Clark Kent.
Anyway, that's my take.
My own metric for Superhero tends to be divided in two:
There's the superhero genre, and then there's superhero characters.
For example, He-Man himself is a superhero as he's got a lot of the trappings, but I wouldn't consider He-Man and the Masters of the Universe itself a superhero work, more just an adventurous fantasy that just happens to contain a superhero.
Stuff like Ben 10 or Mighty Max to me is, at best, superhero adjacent.
Blue Falcon I would consider being part of the actual Superhero genre--just its Hanna-Barbera's own specific take on it. Likewise Kamen Rider is a superhero work, just its Toei's specific take on that genre.
For me, what makes a character a superhero is actually pretty simple once I thought about it--masks/costumes. He-Man is a superhero because he essentially changes form (metaphorically putting on a costume) to bring out his full-power state. Lion-O isn't a superhero because he just is who he is the whole time. Superman holds himself back when he's in Clark Kent disguise and only allows himself to use most of his power when he's in the tights. Kamen Rider can't kick ass until they henshin. So on and so forth.
Meanwhile the Ninja Turtles are always Ninja Turtles. Yeah they sometimes put on those human masks but that's actually an enabler--it lets them get pizza or something without being jumped by half of New York. It's not quite the same as Batman acting as Bruce Wayne or Superman acting as Clark Kent.
Anyway, that's my take.
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TOONS
ARE DEADER THAN DEAD
SHOCK
IS ALL IN YOUR HEAD
YOUR SEX AND YOUR DOPE
IS ALL THAT WE'RE FED
SO FUCK ALL YOUR PRONOUNS
AND PUT THEM TO BED
Implying they haven't gone woke 2016 onward?
xXEddie.DurellXx
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What have they done to my transformers. first that new dog shit video game and now this. What am I going to do.
Basic Blond Boy
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I get this, but the issue is that many DC and Marvel capes break this rule completely.
The Thing is a giant rock monster at all times, there is no transformation. Same goes for Cyborg or Beast Boy. Then there is literal gods such as Thor so no switch there.
Then there is also the no-power crew, who at best gain gadgets while in disguise.
Finally, you also have the my powers are a curse shit that go against the idea of the super forms. Hulk is a Dr Jekle, Mr Hyde situation. The X-Men are a discriminated minority group because of powers, with some having work ending shit attached. Then you got those uncontrollable magic characters like Zatanna, Raven or Dr. Fate (the helmet can fuck you over and take control).
There really is no consistency in capes. Superman is tied to the same universe as Jonah Hex, a guy who is just a cowboy. This all just makes discerning cape or not all the more difficult.
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Superheroes can be used to explore some interesting ideas, but you can't really do that with pre-existing characters because you'll have fanboys raging about how it's inaccurate to the source material.
I like the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers.
On the greater topic of identifying capeshit I'd say it's primarily about genre conventions, the way I discern it is that capeshit is about costumed vigilantes in a contemporary (or equally mundane) setting with a notable focus on the protagonists' double lives and/or soap opera plotlines focusing on interpersonal drama inbetween heroic escapades. If a show doesn't meet those criteria then it isn't capeshit even if those characters have superheroic traits.
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Mcfly? Will you do the honors?
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Can anyone more adept at photoshop do that wolverine meme? Only with the old 90s nickelodeon studios in the photo? I'd appreciate it tenfold.
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Why is it always the prepubescent teenage girls claiming terms like “non-binary” as a real thing? It’s not just them doing this all the time, but they really want you to think that fictional teenage girls in New Age Western Animation know more about sex and gender that lived on this Earth for hundreds of years.
It’s no surprise they are doing this to Transformers in current day, but there’s a real disturbing and confusing thing that they’re making teenage girls look less like girls and more into being pets for this kind of agenda.
I can only imagine the things they will do to teenage (fictional) boys next in the upcoming few years with this medium.
EDIT: Apologies for grammar.
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Now then you mention it, we don't see prepubescent black teenage girls claiming they're "non-binary". And some people didn't like the third definition then Urban Dictionary use for "non-binary". https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=non-binary
Pets? More like guinea pigs and cannon fodder for TPTB. One thing is sure, it's doubtful we might see a new incarnation of You Can't Do That on Television on Wokelodeon.
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The MCU destroyed this. Every super in that movie lineup runs around with their masks off and revolves their life fully around their cape-shit escapades. Stark revealing he was Iron-Man was interesting for the time, but the consequences are that no one in the universe has an identity now. You can tell how this fucked shit up as they tried doing Civil War without one of the main things it was about. They cannot even get the mundane setting now as it is all galactic, quantum realm, mirror-dimension bullshit.
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All because the titular alien robots can change into vehicles/animals/mechanical animals. Now whenever "trans" is brought up, the first thing that dictionaries cover are troons instead of the prefix.
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And... that's how you ruin a 40 year old franchise. Now you wish we had Diaclones instead.
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They don’t really have gender Isn’t it like a frame type that says you’re a boy former or a women former
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Holy fuck this new Aqua Teen movie is boring as fuck
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I'm sure that was the point. Current world thinking isn't compatible with this logic.
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God, speaking of how dumb the gender stuff gets, I was just on TV Tropes (yeah I know) reading the YMMV for the Hulu Animaniacs... and apparently some fans like to say Dot is MTF and Yakko is FTM.
....... Like, literally how the fuck do these people's brains work? In-universe they are drawings that came to life. The closest the Warners could possibly come to "transitioning" is if Dot wore boy clothes for awhile.
On that note a friend convinced me to watch one episode of Hulu Animaniacs, saying it was okay to judge the entire series by the one episode. That episode was "Good Warner Hunting."
....... Like, literally how the fuck do these people's brains work? In-universe they are drawings that came to life. The closest the Warners could possibly come to "transitioning" is if Dot wore boy clothes for awhile.
On that note a friend convinced me to watch one episode of Hulu Animaniacs, saying it was okay to judge the entire series by the one episode. That episode was "Good Warner Hunting."