How Biden's New Washing Machine Regulations Could Ruin Laundry Day - They're waging a war on all appliances, not just gas stoves

Manufacturers say government climate change initiative would make your washing cycles longer, clothes dirtier​

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Collin Anderson
March 13, 2023

When Cincinnati firefighter Ed Wallace bought a high efficiency Whirlpool washing machine, he came to regret the decision almost immediately. The machine used less water—not enough to clean Wallace's work clothes—and his colleagues at the firehouse quickly took notice. "I walked past my guys and they say, 'Dude, you stink!'" Wallace said. "I smelled myself, and yeah, that's me stinking."

Now, President Joe Biden is pushing regulations that could force Wallace's stinky situation upon millions of Americans.

Biden's Energy Department last month proposed new efficiency standards for washing machines that would require new appliances to use considerably less water, all in an effort to "confront the global climate crisis." Those mandates would force manufacturers to reduce cleaning performance to ensure their machines comply, leading industry giants such as Whirlpool said in public comments on the rule. They'll also make the appliances more expensive and laundry day a headache—each cycle will take longer, the detergent will cost more, and in the end, the clothes will be less clean, the manufacturers say.

The proposed washing machine rule marks the latest example of the administration turning to consumer regulations to advance its climate change goals. Last month, the Energy Department published an analysis of its proposed cooking appliance efficiency regulations, which it found would effectively ban half of all gas stoves on the U.S. market from being sold. The department has also proposed new efficiency standards for refrigerators, which could come into effect in 2027. "Collectively these energy efficiency actions … support President Biden's ambitious clean energy agenda to combat the climate crisis," the Energy Department said in February.

While the Energy Department—which did not return a request for comment—acknowledged in its proposal that "maintaining acceptable cleaning performance can be more difficult as energy and water levels are reduced," it expressed confidence that Whirlpool and other appliance manufacturers can comply with its regulations without sacrificing stain removal and other performance standards. For the Heritage Foundation's Travis Fisher, however, manufacturer concerns over the proposal are justified.

"When you're squeezing all you can out of the efficiency in terms of electricity use and water … you by definition either make the appliance worse or slower," said Fisher, who serves as a senior research fellow at the foundation's Center for Energy, Climate, and Environment. "Why are we so focused on the energy output, as opposed to if it's helping me wash my clothes? That standard has kind of gone off the rails."

Beyond the performance standard debate, the Association of Home Appliance Manufacturers argued that the Energy Department's washing machine regulations "would have a disproportionate, negative impact on low-income households" by eliminating cheaper appliances from the market. The Energy Department estimates that manufacturers will incur nearly $700 million in conversion costs to transition to the new machines.

The department countered concerns over higher appliance prices by arguing in its proposal that consumers will ultimately save money under the regulations through lower energy and water bills. Still, those estimated savings won't apply to all consumers, roughly a quarter of whom "would experience a net cost" thanks to the efficiency rule, according to the Energy Department's proposal.

The Energy Department is required to conduct efficiency standard reviews every six years under the Energy Policy and Conservation Act, which Congress enacted in 1975, two years after an Arab oil embargo inflated gas prices in the United States. The Clinton administration subsequently established the country's first washing machine energy and water efficiency standards in 2001, just before former president George W. Bush took office. Those standards led to "ruined laundry, ongoing maintenance, and service calls," prompting Whirlpool to release a cleaning product "specifically designed to address moldy washing machines," according to George Washington University's Sofie Miller.

The debacle has not stopped the Biden administration from moving forward with more stringent appliance energy efficiency standards, which have not been updated for washing machines since 2012. The tightening of those standards "could put performance at risk" but is unlikely to provide "meaningful energy savings," the Association of Home Appliance Manufacturers says, because most appliances covered under the Energy Policy and Conservation Act "now operate at peak efficiency."

"They keep tightening the standards, and I'm not sure their reasoning makes sense anymore," Fisher told the Washington Free Beacon.

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Our house came with a high efficiency washer and dryer. The dryer died quickly thank goodness and it took me ages to find a simple one that just worked, wasn’t ‘self cleaning’ (never ever buy a dryer with a condenser you can’t pull out and scrub). I was offered Wi-Fi smart etc and I was asking the guy ‘look I just want one with an on off switch, a time dial and a couple of heat settings.’ Nope.
The washer is high efficiency and it WRECKS clothes becasue the ONLY way you can clean with less water is with physical force. It is the equivalent of bashing them on a rock by a river.
So, I looked it up and the way to get it to behave normally is to see if it has a button for shorter cycle and for extra water. You press both and it takes the eco setting off. Or use the express cycle.
My mother’s tumble dryer is twenty years old. It has an on off button, a dial for time and two heat settings. New appliances are a scam. If you’ve got an old faithful one ne we scrap it.
(This goes for things like sewing machines too- a metal bodied one from the fifties will see better than a modern one outside the crazy price ranges.) everything is poorly built and built to fail nowadays
As mentioned earlier, I love my old ass washer and dryer. If you only care about durability and function, I think the only real option when buying new these days is Speed Queen. They're not cheap and lack most of the modern "features", but they're very old school and still US made - I couldn't imagine going with anything else.
 
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As mentioned earlier, I love my old ass washer and dryer. If you only care about durability and function, I think the only real option when buying new these days is Speed Queen. They're not cheap and lack most of the modern "features", but they're very old school and still US made - I couldn't imagine going with anything else.
Alas I’m the wrong side of the pond. I’d happily have a model with three options and temperature control but they don’t make them here. All front loaders
 
Alas I’m the wrong side of the pond. I’d happily have a model with three options and temperature control but they don’t make them here. All front loaders
In that case, I'd recommend looking for the company that makes the gear used most often for commercial laundry over there and seeing if it's possible to buy their commercial units for home use.
 
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In a few decades the average prole in the West will be just a medieval serf with a smartphone. Hell, at least medieval serfs worked less hours per week than the average debt slave worker does today. Which made me remember, they were taxed less too and that's just me comparing taxes that people have to pay today compared to the serf who had to pay 1/3 in taxes to their lord and an additional tithe (10%) to the church. Just imagine how bad it's gonna get in a few decades. I wonder if it's gonna get to the point that it was near the tail end of the Western Roman Empire where barbarians taking over your cities was actually PREFERABLE because the amount of shit they looted from your house once was less than what the Empire required you to pay in taxes per year.
 
Yeah but TAXES and import duty and the postal service using it as a football….
When my current machine dies (and it’s a persistent bastard I’ll give it that) I’ll look for a eastern European cheap one.
Oh yeah you guys have huge taxes on everything lol. I'm glad your machine is still working at least, don't give it up if it's still trucking along
 
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Hahahaha fuck you Biden, guess how many gallons of water are used in a standard bathtub. Now double that. There go your stupid water "savings." Imma take a bath here in a sec just to spite this worm.

Also people can, you know, wash them again. The stupid, it burns.
 
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It's not like the Government is forcing consumers at gunpoint to buy a brand new washing machine. Just keep using your current machine until it craps out, then consider whether or not you want to buy one of these new high-falutin' machines, fix your old one* (assuming your machine that's economically viable to repair) or buy a used machine from Craigslist.

* IMHO the repairability aspect is an important yet overlooked way of being more environmentally friendly but that's a whole other story
Yeah, that's fantastic and all, if you already have one. The "buy used" argument will only hold up for so many years as the supply dwindles. But hey, I guess it's okay for the government to force future generations to put up with a far shittier world than that of their parents, or even than the one they grew up in, because they aren't technically doing it at gunpoint, huh?
 
Tell me, aren't you tired of this administration and the nanny states coming into your house and telling you what you can and cannot have?

If they're that worried about water, then how about they make it illegal to have grass lawns in SoCal, you know, where IT'S A FUCKING DESERT! and stop allowing pistachio and almond farmers to suck up all the water.
Oh... wait...
Isn't it great, living in a world where I'm so awash in water that the lawn is like walking on a sponge right now and my first act upon getting home is to mop up the muddy footprints myself and the dog made inside, only to be told that I'm to be penalized for "wasting water" because after 30 years of putting up endless suburbs in the desert on the other end of the country, they're running out of water to keep the lawns and golf courses lush?

This is the face of socialism, ladies and gents.

It doesn't come at you with ration cards and jail for betraying the state at first - it has to "play nice" and be topically concerned about the unfairness of having more of anything than your neighbor first.

Only when you resist can they break out the nightsticks and midnight knocks on the door because "we tried to compromise, but your greedy ass class criminals wouldn't submit play fair"
 
If this new machine was that good, Mr government wouldn't need to get involved in enforcing it's usage. Think about that

>make new machines use less water to save water
>new machines don't clean clothes properly
>people wash clothes twice or wash in twice as many loads to compensate using twice as much water

Yup sure sounds like a smart idea to me.

It sounds smart and that's enough for these people
 
When Cincinnati firefighter Ed Wallace bought a high efficiency Whirlpool washing machine, he came to regret the decision almost immediately. The machine used less water—not enough to clean Wallace's work clothes—and his colleagues at the firehouse quickly took notice. "I walked past my guys and they say, 'Dude, you stink!'" Wallace said. "I smelled myself, and yeah, that's me stinking."
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Since elementary school I've been inundated with this "save water" bullshit. I don't live in Cali. There is no water shortage. Except for college and my first year in the workforce, my water has come from the ground, will return to the ground, and only takes the electricity to pump it.
It's like emissions standards on cars. We don't all live in a fucking shithole desert. Let us fucking take showers with decent showerheads and actually clean our clothes. I don't need to follow another state's laws.
 
I'm about to lay down a secret, a trade secret: they still make good washing machines. Industrial grade, I've seen them at job fairs, but yes, they still make the good shit for big clients
The industrial stuff is really good, but you're going to pay dearly for it. You're going to own it for like 30 years though, so how much does cost matter in the end.
 
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