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He's not even in the Eastern time zone, he's CST.
🐷 Ethan Ralph's Twitter / Tweets - A collection of thoughts, insights and musings from the internet's favorite gunted hobbit
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Back with more unstoppable, irrefutable, irresistable legal manoeuvres, it appears that the Ralphalawyer has this whole thing wrapped up - and he is absolutely not worried about this upcoming trial, at all. In fact, he wants to go to trial, it will be fun bish.
In this edition of I'm going to tweet out my legal strategy, Ralph is now gloating about how his wife is going to be taking the stand, and that since "she" sent the journal, actually no laws were broken. What's more, Ralph is going to use his legal training (a whole semester of it when he went to college and failed that degree, btw) to ensure that no fishing expeditions will take place. That's right, he's going to shut down questioning of the horse because any questioning as to whether Ralph had been involved would be entirely speculative...
Combined with his previous tweets about how the Vickers' would need to verify any DMs as belonging to Ralph, it's clear for all to see victory is effectively assured thanks to these legal bulwarks Ralph has erected.
Of course there are some problems with this - in the wake of the previous continuances Ralph had the Horse put out a self-incriminating video where she admitted it was all her! How convenient that May admitted it just a day after Ralph was down bad in court. Now, this was clearly an expert legal manoeuvre and the exact sort of thing that a lawyer would recommend you do ahead of time. What could go wrong? Now while what was said on that video wasn't under oath, so May isn't going to be perjuring herself by contradicting herself in that video while she takes the stand, she is going to have to remember the entire bullshit story she told on that video and also maintain it throughout any cross examination she is subjected to. So there is a genuine threat that her credibility is going to be seriously brought into question during that encounter. Maybe Ralph, instead of dragging May in and asking your baby momma to perjure herself you would have been best to leave her be...
Because I do not think it will make a difference either way, Mr Vickers' in the chudbud leaks talked about issuing a subpoena to Daimyo and Mr Deadman relating to the messages they received from Ralph. In effect, they potentially could be compelled to take the stand and state whether it was Ralph, and whether it was relating to the diary. It would be difficult to refute that in court, in my opinion. Vickers' also talked about how they fell afoul of the issue of verifying whether online accounts belonged to an individual in their last court case - so again, Vickers is a lot of things, but I doubt being acutely aware of something he would hire a lawyer and ignore it in his next outing. He's not Xanax stupid like Ralph is. Now I have no idea if anyone has been subpoenaed, I suspect that if it hasn't this is because Ralph has breached the terms of the DVRO on multiple occasions and while the diary is probably one of the most egregious examples, it would take a lot of effort to prove for potentially little gain. Why waste your time trying to prove a single instance, when so much needed to be done to reach the evidentiary threshold, when there are 20 other things which are easier to exhibit and completely undeniable.
Either way, the lack of legal counsel to tard wrangle Ralph provides a real insight into how inept this fat retard is, first for his poor understanding of the law and second for his inability to hold whatever poor cards he has close to his chest. It's hard to bluff when all you are holding is a 2 and a 3, and you have shown the entire fucking table.
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Just found this on May's Twitter, and while it's hard to understand exactly what Vickers' point is because what he has posted here actually makes no sense if you think about it - I imagine the point is that May taking the stand is irrelevant to their case. Either because, the diary issue is not really what they are going after Ralph for, or they have subpoenaed people who are going to testify that Ralph knew and that is what he was referring to in those DMs (illegal by the way, ah do naht consent ya honor).
In this edition of I'm going to tweet out my legal strategy, Ralph is now gloating about how his wife is going to be taking the stand, and that since "she" sent the journal, actually no laws were broken. What's more, Ralph is going to use his legal training (a whole semester of it when he went to college and failed that degree, btw) to ensure that no fishing expeditions will take place. That's right, he's going to shut down questioning of the horse because any questioning as to whether Ralph had been involved would be entirely speculative...
Combined with his previous tweets about how the Vickers' would need to verify any DMs as belonging to Ralph, it's clear for all to see victory is effectively assured thanks to these legal bulwarks Ralph has erected.
Of course there are some problems with this - in the wake of the previous continuances Ralph had the Horse put out a self-incriminating video where she admitted it was all her! How convenient that May admitted it just a day after Ralph was down bad in court. Now, this was clearly an expert legal manoeuvre and the exact sort of thing that a lawyer would recommend you do ahead of time. What could go wrong? Now while what was said on that video wasn't under oath, so May isn't going to be perjuring herself by contradicting herself in that video while she takes the stand, she is going to have to remember the entire bullshit story she told on that video and also maintain it throughout any cross examination she is subjected to. So there is a genuine threat that her credibility is going to be seriously brought into question during that encounter. Maybe Ralph, instead of dragging May in and asking your baby momma to perjure herself you would have been best to leave her be...
Because I do not think it will make a difference either way, Mr Vickers' in the chudbud leaks talked about issuing a subpoena to Daimyo and Mr Deadman relating to the messages they received from Ralph. In effect, they potentially could be compelled to take the stand and state whether it was Ralph, and whether it was relating to the diary. It would be difficult to refute that in court, in my opinion. Vickers' also talked about how they fell afoul of the issue of verifying whether online accounts belonged to an individual in their last court case - so again, Vickers is a lot of things, but I doubt being acutely aware of something he would hire a lawyer and ignore it in his next outing. He's not Xanax stupid like Ralph is. Now I have no idea if anyone has been subpoenaed, I suspect that if it hasn't this is because Ralph has breached the terms of the DVRO on multiple occasions and while the diary is probably one of the most egregious examples, it would take a lot of effort to prove for potentially little gain. Why waste your time trying to prove a single instance, when so much needed to be done to reach the evidentiary threshold, when there are 20 other things which are easier to exhibit and completely undeniable.
Either way, the lack of legal counsel to tard wrangle Ralph provides a real insight into how inept this fat retard is, first for his poor understanding of the law and second for his inability to hold whatever poor cards he has close to his chest. It's hard to bluff when all you are holding is a 2 and a 3, and you have shown the entire fucking table.
Edit:
Just found this on May's Twitter, and while it's hard to understand exactly what Vickers' point is because what he has posted here actually makes no sense if you think about it - I imagine the point is that May taking the stand is irrelevant to their case. Either because, the diary issue is not really what they are going after Ralph for, or they have subpoenaed people who are going to testify that Ralph knew and that is what he was referring to in those DMs (illegal by the way, ah do naht consent ya honor).
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I think it's actually true that Meigh was the one who sent out the journal, since I'm pretty sure it happened while Ralph was on some trip to Vegas alone and it included a handwritten note from Meigh as well as had pages ripped out that talked about Meigh. Now did Ralph and her plan the entire thing together and wait for him to leave town to direct her to send the journal? Yeah of course.
I think the Vickers will probably just get a restraining order against Meigh out of this as well and then Ralph can't use her twitter anymore to shittalk them. Maybe he can make a twitter account for Rozy and use that.
I think the Vickers will probably just get a restraining order against Meigh out of this as well and then Ralph can't use her twitter anymore to shittalk them. Maybe he can make a twitter account for Rozy and use that.
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Is Ralph essentially authenticating the DMs by trying to claim they're inadmissible due to two-party consent?
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The biggest tragedy of all is that Ralph's court appearances aren't livestreamed. What an amazing show it must be.
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Yeah. The Ralphamale just pulled a "Heads, the court wins. Tails, Ralph loses"
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Nah, from what I can gather either:
The DMs are inconsequential because the Vickers aren't going to pursue the issue relating to the diary; or,
The Vickers are going to get Daimyo who was in receipt of the DMs to confirm that not only was it Ralph who sent them, but that they were in relation to the diary.
I don't know which, Ive said elsewhere that the diary isn't that important in the scheme of things because Ralph has violated the DVRO on so many occasions, and actually there are a few issues that would make it difficult to prove in court such as verifying the DMs, which may have led them to think this was not worth pursuing - but I'm not the Vickers or a lawyer, so who knows what they're thinking.
If ralph is saying they can't use the dms because he was the second party he is necessarily saying he totally sent the dms though.
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Not necessarily, because if two party consent did apply to those DMs (which it doesn't) then what he is saying is that they would need both parties to consent. That doesn't necessarily admit he is the second party.
The problem is you don't need two party consent for DMs, because there is no expectation that local copies are not saved.
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Also the Ralphamale keeps forgetting that family court is not criminal court. Completely different rules of evidence, examination, rulings, etc. That's why you don't fuck around in family court.
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Vickers has been in a real bind over the diary since he needs Diamyo to authenticate that what he sent to the Discord was real, as well as the screenshots he sent to the Discord from Ralph.
Daimyo has no incentive to play ball.
The diary is important to Vickers because the violations are just violations and likely to result in a slap on the wrist. The diary is key to Vickers' master plan to take down Ralph.
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IANAL but it seems like harping on the diary thing is a great way to burn through any goodwill they have with the judge.
Instead of focusing on the more straightforward violations everyone seems obsessed with this one violation that requires the Vickers to convince the judge of schizo Charlie Kelly-style connections with three layers deep of conspiracy, authenticating communications, scrutinizing Ethan's personal timeline compared to May's, etc.
It obviously happened like that but it's got to be tiresome for a judge to sit through and parse out the actual violation from all the goofy shenanigans surrounding it. and based on what I've seen/heard from the Vickers' YT streams I have little faith that they'd be able to concisely present the relevant details.
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Ah, you forget they have a lawyer and actually let him do his job.
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I have no clue what kind of character Daimyo is, but given all Vickers had to do was to phone up his mommy to bring him to heel - he doesn't seem like the sort who likes being in trouble.
If Daimyo is subpoenaed he will probably just crack given he has nothing to gain by lying, but lying to the court may result in a charge. That's his incentive for playing ball.
The diary is just a violation, I don't think it's that important all said and done.
From the two Vickers streams I managed to suffer through, this wasn't the feeling I got from it. Maybe I'm wrong, but I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if they avoided it because it wasn't worth the effort. As others have pointed out, the lawyer will probably be calling the shots on this and since they weren't appointed by Rekeita then they might be worth the money!
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Yeah sorry, I should have specified that the people I see fixating on the diary are forum members, not the Vickers themselves.
But if he's not the second party whod be there to say it was their dms and not to leak them? If the melty dms leaked of me saying I'm a huge fan of the killstream and I say "those are fake" I can't then say "but you totes need my consent to publish Mah fuggin dms bish!" No?
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Believe it or not, it is not at all uncommon for retarded wife-beating pieces of shit to use their current whore to harass their previous whore to evade a restraining order. This is literally wife-beating retard 101 level shit. Ralph is nowhere near as clever as he thinks pulling one of the dumbest and oldest tricks of shitbag abusive exes.
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Lets be real here. At this point it doesn't matter what Proto-ralph's strategy is, how good or bad his lawyer is,or how much of a fat faggot wanna be E-celeb Vicky is. Reethan, "Eating" Ralph is representing himself. This retarded, drug addled, wet-brain, ragepig is going to walk into that courtroom and actually try out his genius legal strategies. That alone is going to hand Vacuous Vickster the win. And that's assuming that Wee Willy Ralph shows up relatively sober.
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If Ralph says "you can't verify that's me" and "I don't consent to any communications being released" then that doesn't necessarily present a contradiction.
Er, actually Ralph has won like er, 10 cases by representing himself in court. Easy as pie.
I really really want to know what these charges are that he beat. I can't think of any charges he actually beat, plenty where he got a slap on the wrist... Sure, but has he actually beat any of his charges entirely?
RALPH if you are reading this, please prove the above and provide reciepts - thanks!