Ukrainian Defensive War against the Russian Invasion - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

Cope cage still can't cope with an FPV drone & skilled operator. Whatever it had as a payload definitely did some damage.

There goes the optics, and possibly parts of an MG.

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I don't understand how CoachRedPill who has lived in Ukraine for years believed that Donbass Devushka's shitty Russian accent was real. Dude you lived in Kharkiv which is a majority Russian speaking city!
If I'm not mistaken, he has admitted that he never learned Russian or Ukrainian. I don't know how you can live for 5(?) years in another country and not learn the language. You would have to make an effort to NOT learn. Despite bitching about globohomo, he represents some of the worst of it.

But I guess that we already know how he is with "strong incentives." See the vatnigger in his natural environment a week before declaring himself a geo-political expert and deciding that actually the war was inevitable because of muh 8 years in the Donbas.

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And here's some of his recent lunacy. This time it's truly over for Ukraine.

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If I'm not mistaken, he has admitted that he never learned Russian or Ukrainian. I don't know how you can live for 5(?) years in another country and not learn the language. You would have to make an effort to NOT learn. Despite bitching about globohomo, he represents some of the worst of it.

But I guess that we already know how he is with "strong incentives." See the vatnigger in his natural environment a week before declaring himself a geo-political expert and deciding that actually the war was inevitable because of muh 8 years in the Donbas.

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And here's some of his recent lunacy. This time it's truly over for Ukraine.

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I am sure the Russians heavy fortifications along every solitary kilometer of that 2,500 Kilometer long line of contact.

Do these people even listen to themselves talk?
 
Cope cage still can't cope with an FPV drone & skilled operator. Whatever it had as a payload definitely did some damage.
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There goes the optics, and possibly parts of an MG.

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"Mom, I want M982 Excalibur"
"We have M982 Excalibur at home"
M982 Excalibur at home:

It's pretty scary when anti-tank grenades grow wings. Well, propellers.

Dude from the clip seems, as you people say it, shook. Big time. He killed children, least he could do is feel bad about it, ideally put a gun in his mouth and pull the trigger. If these people don't have the decency to do that, let's hope they at least end up testifying against their leadership in the future.
I wonder what specific day he's talking about. They were shooting civilians from the first day of the war, I brought up one well documented example in the previous thread, but that was the regular army, not Wagner. Wagner was always neck deep in abhorrent crimes against humanity.
Needless to say, plenty of civilians met their end at the hands of pro-Russian forces since 2014, be it Kremlin-backed separatists or glowies themselves. I've heard a great deal about people disappearing, only to be found dead with the signs of torture later in Russian-occupied territory.

What we see and hear is only the very tip of the iceberg. Most of the time there's no one to document and share what's going on in these places, save for the hellspawn themselves, usually for their own amusement.
God only knows how many innocent souls perished as a result of their efforts, how much needless suffering and death they caused. Though even God would probably cover his eyes if he saw what his children were doing to each other.
It's things like this that make me hope that Hell exists, even if I'm destined to burn in it myself for one reason or another. It would make my stay comparable to Heaven if I get to see them suffer for what they did.
Sorry for the rant.
 
If I'm not mistaken, he has admitted that he never learned Russian or Ukrainian. I don't know how you can live for 5(?) years in another country and not learn the language. You would have to make an effort to NOT learn.
he is the 'digital nomad' type of expat, the kind that lives on the internet and is completely isolated from the real world around him.
for these types it is irrelevant where they live. la, nyc, mexico city, santiago de chile, johannesburg, tunis, dubai, tel aviv, berlin, london, shanghai, hong kong, tokyo, kharkiv, doesn't matter, cause they'll just sit in their apartment and live on social media anyway. only interaction with locals is when they pay the uber eats delivery guy or when they swipe their credit card at the grocery store.
 
I bet those children were members of Azov and were seconds from killing all the kittiens in Russia.

Joking aside, that video shows what Ukraine is fighting against.
What reason is there to deliberate kill kids? To kill PoW, civillans etc.
It is evil.
As Astro said, this is just the tip of the iceberg. We will see more and more stories like this.
 
he is the 'digital nomad' type of expat, the kind that lives on the internet and is completely isolated from the real world around him.
for these types it is irrelevant where they live. la, nyc, mexico city, santiago de chile, johannesburg, tunis, dubai, tel aviv, berlin, london, shanghai, hong kong, tokyo, kharkiv, doesn't matter, cause they'll just sit in their apartment and live on social media anyway. only interaction with locals is when they pay the uber eats delivery guy or when they swipe their credit card at the grocery store.
Rootless Cosmopolitanism and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
 
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An ongoing story of Wagner in Africa. In contrast to China it seems that Russia is offering military support and regime security for mineral rights.
China does cash, debt traps, weapons, and/or infrastructure development.


Sea patrol, escort* and other colonial type duties are exactly what the LCS are good for as is.
The Independence class has a severe hull defect. One can't operate in Sea State 4. The modular load out was scrapped.
The Freedom Class is still having problems with the combining gear so it can't approach its max speed.
A small, cheap to build and run ship capable of multiple roles sounds great for power projection and sales.
LCS could have been a good seller and allowed for export sales of complete ships but both classes have fallen far short of any expectation. Would have been great to have the F-15 of the seas, where the newest version, F-15EX, is really just a compiling of upgrades paid for by other customers.

Congress cutting the Zumwalt production to save a buck is costing them a fuck ton more money to restart the Burke line. As the builders and supply chain had shut down the Burke line were set up and ready to make Zumwalts. Which right now and for the immediate future the individual one off Franken Burke II/IIIs are more expensive until the every part of the production line and supply chain have been rebuilt. So the actual Burke III production can start.
The Zumwalt has two guns without ammo and 80 VLS cells. The upgraded Burke has 96 cells and a working 5" gun of questionable utility. Potential new shells not withstanding. As a future weapons platform the Zumwalt may have worked with enough cash, it had the space and power capacity. There is a broader need of getting working ships out to sea and the Block III Burkes are impressive ships. I think one of them has more VLS cells than the seven ships of the Russian Pacific Fleet combined.

Looked up the Block III, looks like one was launched from Ingalls and commissioning is expected in 2023. Two more have keels laid at Ingalls and Bath is "Under construction"
If you have a good report on restarting Burke production please share.

The US Navy has been attempting to keep a technological edge but it's attempts at new classes have been hitting ditches over and over. They need a hull with the space and power production capable of running next gen systems and the only one that seems close to moving forward is the Ford Class which is years behind schedule and the only reason it's nearly done is because they pulled a bunch of parts from the next Ford class, delaying it further. This lead to the refueling of the Truman and an extra couple billion on the balance sheet.

At least it isn't the Kuznestov.

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Impotence. It comes in different forms. Someone can't get his pp up and resorts to all manners of shit, someone can't cope with their surroundings, so they wish for a STRONG HAND (c) to come and make their problems go away, instead of, you know, try to solve them on their own.
Assuming the Russian cat really is a woman as they claim, she's clearly desperate for a big strong man like Putin to give her the back of his hand and put her in her place.

As to my 2c on naval stuff, well... I think things have hit a technological plateau there. For some reason naval affairs are extremely conducive to relative stagnation. Things just aren't small enough and there isn't enough room or spare displacement in hulls. And unlike planes where you can get by with things needing several hours of maintenance for every hour in the air, ships need to run for months straight, so you can't just constantly run things at the redline like you can with planes.
 
Vatnik in the Taiwan thread is telling me America is too weak to defend Taiwan and America knows it. I don't even know how to talk to these people, they live in an alternative reality.
Link to the thread in question? I want to see this idiocy for myself.

Also the fact that the Russian empire, like all prior empires in history, insured against rebellion by the mass relocation and intermingling of its subjects, in order to break ethnic and territorial bonds.
Didn't stop them from collapsing spectacularly.

I forgot about this. I watched it earlier. He talks about how Russia could collapse. How all the little ethnic groups in all the territories across Russia could split away. Russian gobbled them up during its colonialist days. Personally, I don't see it happening because if you look at most of these regions they are filled with Russians. Most of the populations are ethnic Russians. They don't have a big enough population to stop the Russians from continuing to control them. Unless the Russians get really weakened. Even then it's not like each little territory is made up exclusively of the people who lived there through history. It's mostly just Russians and then a bunch of different groups. Even if they banned together, they wouldn't have a large population. I just don't see the Russians ever losing control of what is basically a bunch of different countries that make up the Russian far East or even the Ural area.
There are ethnic republics where the local ethnicities far outnumber local Russians (Tuva, Chechnya, etc.). They are the most likely to break away and would find it the easiest to do so since they are on the edge of Russia. But even if an area is majority Russian, that does not mean it will remain loyal to the central government. There have been discussions and ruminations for decades regarding areas like the Ural Region and Central Siberia breaking away and seeking independence. So it isn't just necessarily a matter of ethnic republics seeking independence. Fact is, Russia is too large, too dispersed, too broke, and too corrupt to be governed effectively by the government that it has. A break up of the Russian state has been posited for years by various pundits and thinkers, and others who study geopolitics.

They are right that most of Russia's territory is a bunch of ethnics who have been colonized and Sovietified, and the only thing they have in common is getting Imperial'd by the same entity. But a break will never happen for the same reason Chechnya went from Mini-Afganistan to Mucovite Simps:
The leadership is bought and paid for.
Bought and paid for by Putin, whose probably living on borrowed time, regardless of the actual outcome of the conflict or all the rumors of his ill health, due simply to his age. Putin is the only thing really holding Russia together at this point, and he's effectively drawn the entire state apparatus around himself. Once he goes, it will all fall like a stack of cards.
 

The same Kiwifarms experts in military tactics that assured us the Russians would beat Ukraine faster than the US beat Iraq are all there telling their expert predictions on what would happen should China invade Tawian. It's like a convention for the most inaccurate fortune tellers.
Amphibious Invasions are also fucking hard as balls to do even in the best of circumstances. And China has NEVER conducted such an operation before. The extent of their knowledge is reading US and British books on the subject.

That matters because US Marines and Sailors were trained by Marines and Sailors who were trained by Marines and Sailors who actually did amphibious assaults for real. China does not have that going for them. It's all academic
 
Man, this whole LARP sounds exactly like Feline Supremacist, I'm almost convinced it's her at this point (if we believe her claims of being female that is) lol
At some point it even mentioned living in New Jersey, but who knows if any of it is true.

Point being, I suppose, is there are people crazy enough to pretend to be something they're not, and everyone better keep that in mind.
Anyone seen Feline Supremacist around lately? I had the same idea.
 
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