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It was probably the planned C&C&C&C
Coyote & Crow & Cha'alt Crossover also called CCCX or 3CX or CXXX. A Collaboration with Venger to bring the gonzo setting of Cha'alt to the Coyote & Crow universe. A "What if" the white-people seeking meteor tore a hole in reality and caused Europe to merge with the sleazy sci-fi gonzo world of Cha'alt. You'll need to pow-wow with your strongest braves and bring heap good medicine to keep Cha'alt's eldritch energies from gonzoing Vinland. You'll be red in the face at the savage combat against these otherworld invaders. The developers are being tight lipped but have sent up some smoke signals about expected content, including a random table of sci-fi pop culture references that will age like fine milk; numbers 8-20 are just instructions to make something up.

Also includes a free 'zine with guidance for GMs on how to bring Coyote and Crow to space by porting C&C characters/adventures into Alpha Blue.

/sneed

Sad thing is, I could actually see the devs and community pushing for this; seriously, some of these fags and other fragile fucks seem to think that Cock & Cunt is the greatest tabletop setting ever.

Reading the arrogance of a bunch of white and mexican people LARPing as pure natives is hilarious. Especially since they somehow did something so degenerate and coomery they got kicked off a pay exchange. Rather curious what specific fetish did them in on that one.

Especially funny since, despite claiming that C&C is "respectful" towards Injun culture, it not only gets even basic facts wrong about the Redskins, but it also ends up making them look so horrifically bad - summoning an eldritch horror, experimenting on children, causing genocide on an entire race of people that didn't exactly deserve it while empowering and supporting various groups that most likely did deserve it, and condemning humanity to live underneath the reign of a cosmic horror and its cults for all time - that it honestly ends up making a lot of hatred and such look borderline justified.

Seriously, the lack of self-awareness would be alarming, if it wasn't both common these days and bizarrely hilarious.
 
Paypal working its way back to BASED status?
Sadly, Paypal caved and reinstated them, but the head of C&C sent them the most utterly selfrighteous message saying that they were terminating their relationship with Paypal anyway and were going to use alternate payment methods.
It was obnoxiously virtue signal-y, which coming from the people who made quite possibly the most insufferably smug rpg ever that isn't Burning wheel?

Is fucking SAYING something.
 
Sadly, Paypal caved and reinstated them, but the head of C&C sent them the most utterly selfrighteous message saying that they were terminating their relationship with Paypal anyway and were going to use alternate payment methods.
It was obnoxiously virtue signal-y, which coming from the people who made quite possibly the most insufferably smug rpg ever that isn't Burning wheel?

Is fucking SAYING something.

You got a screencap of the message they sent? Wouldn't mind seeing the cringe for myself; seriously, these fucks are so self-righteous while simultaneously having so little self-awareness that it all ends up being hilarious. Perfect kind of content for the Farms, really.

At the same time, though... I have to admit that I can't quite bring myself to completely hate C&C, despite how bad it is. Yes, the game gets basically everything wrong, and is the dev's personal Injun fetish taken to the absolute extreme - the amount of fags and loons begging for C&C's nightmare world to be a reality is a bit... concerning, admittedly - but at the same time, the game manages to be so hilariously misanthropic and bad, unintentionally giving the "evil ytpipeo" as the C&C fags call them the complete and utter moral high ground, that it manages to swing all the way around into being fun. Seriously, my crew has had an absolute blast coming up with new ways to mock the wokeshit; we haven't had this much fun since HSD released, and the only game that is really worse than this in terms of setting and story - Tokyo Afterschool Summoners - isn't even a tabletop.

Granted, we're all a bit insane to various degrees, so... you should probably take our shit with a grain of salt.
 
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Managed to find the website post; thanks for the update, @TremendousBoredom. Here's a direct link: https://coyoteandcrow.net/2023/03/20/ending-our-relationship-with-paypal/

And here's the page copied over, for the curious:

Ending Our Relationship With PayPal

From the start, I dreaded working with PayPal. There’s a wealth of reasons to dislike the platform itself as well as its founder, Peter Thiel (Here’s one among many). But we here at C&C Games were using it for two reasons. First, I needed a way to pay contractors easily and in a way that made sense for them. Roughly 80% of my contractors request to be paid through PayPal and I try to be conscious of their needs.

Second, it’s a massive default payment option through most webstores. We currently use Shopify and a large portion of our sales there come through PayPal.


The Backstory​

Our business account for Coyote & Crow was sent the following notification on 3/17/23:

You can no longer do business with PayPal
After a review of your account activity, we’ve determined that you’re in violation of PayPal’s Acceptable Use Policy. Specifically, the sale of sexually oriented materials or services. As a result, your account has been permanently limited and you won’t be able to conduct any further business using PayPal. This is permitted under the PayPal User Agreement sections Restricted Activities and Actions We May Take. You must remove all references to PayPal from your website(s) and/or auction(s), including removing PayPal as a payment option, the PayPal logo, and the PayPal shopping cart.
If you have funds in your PayPal balance, we’ll hold it up for 180 days. These funds may be used to satisfy any obligations you may have under the User Agreement and Acceptable Use Policy, including potential liabilities to third parties and to PayPal for each violation of the Acceptable Use Policy, including monetary damages. After that period, we’ll email you with information on how to access any remaining funds.
If there are chargebacks that result in your account balance falling below zero, you will need to settle the amount owed to PayPal to avoid further action.
Customers who are permanently limited for violating the Acceptable Use Policy are not permitted to use PayPal services and are not permitted to open new or additional PayPal accounts.
Now, obviously, we don’t sell sexually related materials. Nothing even close. But that also touches on another reason I didn’t want to use Paypal in the first place. They’re a company that is virulently anti-sex work and I know numerous people who have had their money taken from them under these policies. I can’t abide by that kind of moral policing.

The Update​

Yesterday, out of the blue, received a follow up email from PayPal.

Dear Coyote & Crow LLC,
Thank you for contacting PayPal regarding the recent limitation of your PayPal account.
We have further reviewed your case and determined that your account is currently not in violation of our Acceptable Use Policy. As such, the limitation on your account has been lifted.
We sincerely appreciate your business and offer our apologies for any inconvenience this disruption in service may have caused.
In the future, if you have any questions regarding what items are prohibited under PayPal’s Acceptable Use Policy, the complete PayPal Acceptable Use Policy can be found by clicking Legal at the bottom of any PayPal page.
Thank you for your cooperation in the resolution of this matter.
Sincerely,
PayPal
And this was my reply to them.

Dear “Mx.Paypal”,
This response is entirely unsatisfactory and wholly unacceptable. You first suspended our business account with no notice and no explanation. Then your customer service process was not only incredibly difficult to navigate but once I did finally get a hold of a human being they were unable to do anything other than repeat your ridiculous assertions. Namely, that we were in violation of some sort of policy but that there were no details or specifics available, no ability to appeal or speak to anyone further and no other recourse. You then put a hold on my funds.
Now, you reply that in essence, you reviewed your own review and found that there was no violation. You then decided to be so magnanimous as to return my own account to me and give me access to my funds. However, since I don’t know what caused the violation in the first place, I have to now contend with the idea that at any moment, you may lock my account for reasons that are completely opaque and out of my control.
So, in line with your own communication and procedure style, let me respond to you in a language you seem to understand. After reviewing PayPal Inc.’s recent activity, we’ve found that you’ve violated numerous Coyote & Crow Games policies and standards and we’re ending our business with you permanently. We will not detail or specify the policies you’ve violated and there is no recourse for you. We realize that this email is likely being received by nothing but a bot or a sorely underpaid employee who rightly will not have a reason to care. This too is a violation of Coyote & Crow Games policy and standards.
Ill regards,
Connor Alexander
I didn’t add this pic, but I probably should have.

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So What Now?​

Coyote & Crow Games will be deactivating all of our connections to PayPal. Instead, folks will have to rely on standard credit card options and potentially Amazon Pay. I truly hope that this doesn’t cause too many inconveniences for our fans and customers. For future contractors with C&C, we’ll be directing folks toward direct deposit or physical check options. It’s not my favorite way of doing things, but I hope my contractors will understand.

Onward and upward.

C

TL;DR, PayPal cut ties with C&C, then later doubled back and re-instated their contract... only for Coomer to terminate the contract anyway while acting like a spoiled shit.

Seriously, real mature of you, genius; if anyone sees this - and they very likely will - it's only going to make it MORE unlikely that no one is going to be backing your little faggot game in the first place. No support, means less efficient funding, which further means that they can't support the "game" as effectively, meaning that any developments are going to take a lot longer.

How retarded and immature is this guy?

Actually, this does make me wonder; what "pornographic material" did make PayPal stop support? I mean; C&C is very blatantly a fetish game - a very quick look at the Discord crammed full of misanthropes and fags gushing about the death of the "ytpipeo" makes it obvious - but I genuinely don't know if that would be what violated PayPal's TOS. It is curious.
 
Reason n+1 why I don't play D&D anymore.

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Firstly, reddit. Its made up.
Secondly, Character fan art doesn't include fetish red ballon. No way a pedofur isn't going to ensure their fetish isn't front and center. Made up story isn't consistent.
Thirdly, suffer not the furry to live. Tabaxi are furries and go into the ovens with the rest.
 
Okay, that’s just naïveté right there. Anyone who asks to run a child character like that is already at two strikes.

On one hand, its an Animal Crossing setting.

But (again fake story so in principal) how much of a retard would you need to be to allow child characters with internet randos? I know none of the people in my regular group are sick weirdos, but I'd kibosh any child characters in the current setting because it'd be an excuse chaodumb monkeycheese so no. But I'd run some animal crossing adventure for them no reservations because I know they aren't furries or pedos.
I wouldn't even run a fucking Bunnies and Burrows game at a one-shot open house for strangers. Because you know the tranny with the fox tail & ears will bee line for that shit.

I'd also question why you're setting a 5e campaign (we know its 5e because reddit) in the Animal Crossing setting.
 
On one hand, its an Animal Crossing setting.

But (again fake story so in principal) how much of a retard would you need to be to allow child characters with internet randos? I know none of the people in my regular group are sick weirdos, but I'd kibosh any child characters in the current setting because it'd be an excuse chaodumb monkeycheese so no. But I'd run some animal crossing adventure for them no reservations because I know they aren't furries or pedos.
I wouldn't even run a fucking Bunnies and Burrows game at a one-shot open house for strangers. Because you know the tranny with the fox tail & ears will bee line for that shit.

I'd also question why you're setting a 5e campaign (we know its 5e because reddit) in the Animal Crossing setting.
In every generation, there’s an entire class of gamers that gets to D&D and are satisfied with it. This current generation on the ground? Doubly so. They cling to that system like their life depends on it and rather than learn anything else, they try to twist it to fit genres in which it doesn’t actually work.

And by genres in which it doesn’t work, I mean anything that isn’t swashbuckling fantasy action. If you’re not running fantasy SWAT team simulator, you’re doing it wrong.

Edit: Assuming that this whole story isn’t fake and gay, which it probably is.
 
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Thirdly, suffer not the furry to live. Tabaxi are furries and go into the ovens with the rest.
Yes you can see how much the comments to this video are filled with "new fetish" jokes. Tabaxi are too dangerous to be left alive.
 
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Tabaxi are too dangerous to be left alive.

Just remember 99% of "tabaxi" you'll run into either at a table or in an online game will not be lissome acrobatic young women with fantastic asses, but lumpen, unsightly men. Though these days a lot of those lumpen unsightly men may insist you call them women.

This is why my D&D books have been gathering dust for years.
 
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