The Stop Drinking (or using other substances) thread - Hello, my name is "kiwi farmer", and I am an alcoholic.

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Empty Humidifier said:
I was raised by a guy that drank a 1/3 gallon of whiskey a day and he wasn't a good person but he did what he needed to do to for me and he died from lung cancer from smoking and the cancer ate his lungs and ate into his spine and he screamed and screamed and the hospice doctors killed him with a morphine drip while my mother pushed him around in a wheelchair outside so he could look at the sun while he died and he died with that big ball of light in his eyes and I can only hope in his last moments he didn't think of me and what a disappointment I would have been at that time to him.

Anyways like all children of God I have failed and am drinking again.
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But like all children of god you still have hope and the ability to change. A sober you is a better you. You can do it.
 
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Doing my semi annual "try and quit drinking for a month" thing where I make sure I'm not physically addicted yet. Usually I don't make it a month but around three weeks.

Been a few days, no physical side effects which is great. Just boredom man. The boredom always gets me. I love drinking a six pack after work and usually if I take a day or two off during the week it's Friday, so I can you know, wake up feeling good for the weekend so I can...drink more.

Also quitting weed, which is much easier, dreams have been wild and my energy level is so high now I'm starting to get manic, which makes me want to drink. Usually if I can get past the first 72 hours I can go at least a couple weeks. Going to be really tough this weekend, we'll see how it goes I guess.
 
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I'm trying to shed fat, get swole, and quit the ciggies. First two seem to be going fairly well, the latter goal is kicking my ass and spitting in my face. I'm smoking a lot less (like, A LOT) but can't seem to kick it. Send me thots and prayers. I wanna be able to run without gasping for air and feeling like my heart's going to explode so there's no way around it, bros
 
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Got depressed thinking about my stupid life, just want to smoke. Have the self control to not get drunk like I would've when I was 20 - 22 but can't not smoke. How do you keep yourself on the wagon in this situation?
 
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Tsar Nicky said:
Got depressed thinking about my stupid life, just want to smoke. Have the self control to not get drunk like I would've when I was 20 - 22 but can't not smoke. How do you keep yourself on the wagon in this situation?
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Whatever problems you’re trying to forget by using drugs or alcohol to cope with are still going to be there when you sober up. You’re just delaying the inevitable.
 
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I ended up making it like 13 of 15 days or something. Been pretty much drinking every night since then with a few sober ones. I dunno, it's just not the right time for me and
William Tyndale said:
Whatever problems you’re trying to forget by using drugs or alcohol to cope with are still going to be there when you sober up. You’re just delaying the inevitable.
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This is pretty much the reason. My life isn't that bad, but I also have some shit I have to deal with eventually and frankly forgetting it for a few hours at the end of a work day -- the booze is GREAT for that. It does have some upsides.
 
My only experience with alcohol was a sip from my uncle's bottle when I was like 12 and I knew then I'd never drink it. Haven't had a drop of it since then, but that doesn't mean I can't empathize with the struggle of breaking an addiction.

Just popping in to say good luck to you guys trying to kick the habit. I truly believe it's something to strive for, just for the health benefits alone. Stay strong kiwis :semperfidelis:
 
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Alcohol was a thing I drink once of twice every 6 months now. Spiritual Faith had me focus on better ambitions when sickness didn't come to me. But I used to drink it more often before the visit with the Mormons. Including one time I got so drunk it was creeping me out.
 
Lunar Eclipse Paradox said:
Alcohol was a thing I drink once of twice every 6 months now. Spiritual Faith had me focus on better ambitions when sickness didn't come to me. But I used to drink it more often before the visit with the Mormons. Including one time I got so drunk it was creeping me out.
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Wait, did you convert to Mormonism?
 
I had a huge, 2.5 month slingshot on not drinking when I went home for the Summer. At some point I cracked open a can of lager but I didn't feel like it was the end of the world because it stayed controlled, and up to this point it pretty much is still controlled, but I drank a bottle of wine today and I'm feeling hollow.

It mostly boils down to four facts for me:
Fact 1: If I start drinking I will keep drinking until I sleep.
Fact 2: If I have alcohol in my house I will drink it (triggering Fact 1).
Fact 3: I crave the feeling of intoxication specifically.
Fact 4: If I don't drink and I'm not visiting home, I will eventually crave to drink.

The way I was managing this, and it honestly works pretty well, is I only buy cans of Yuengling lager about every other day, and after a while I started to appreciate the beer more as an actual beverage, was getting used to normal drinking patterns, all that. I couldn't buy, say, a pack because although it's more cost efficient, Fact 2 and then Fact 1 would kick in. At the same time, though, just a can won't satisfy Fact 4 and Fact 3.

I called my Pa and talked a long time, which is not uncommon when I'm completely sober, but when it ended I felt the disappointment of the world crash down on me suddenly.
 
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Ughubughughughughughghlug said:
I had a huge, 2.5 month slingshot on not drinking when I went home for the Summer. At some point I cracked open a can of lager but I didn't feel like it was the end of the world because it stayed controlled, and up to this point it pretty much is still controlled, but I drank a bottle of wine today and I'm feeling hollow.

It mostly boils down to four facts for me:
Fact 1: If I start drinking I will keep drinking until I sleep.
Fact 2: If I have alcohol in my house I will drink it (triggering Fact 1).
Fact 3: I crave the feeling of intoxication specifically.
Fact 4: If I don't drink and I'm not visiting home, I will eventually crave to drink.

The way I was managing this, and it honestly works pretty well, is I only buy cans of Yuengling lager about every other day, and after a while I started to appreciate the beer more as an actual beverage, was getting used to normal drinking patterns, all that. I couldn't buy, say, a pack because although it's more cost efficient, Fact 2 and then Fact 1 would kick in. At the same time, though, just a can won't satisfy Fact 4 and Fact 3.

I called my Pa and talked a long time, which is not uncommon when I'm completely sober, but when it ended I felt the disappointment of the world crash down on me suddenly.
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I once took a quiz on “Are you an alcoholic?” One of the things it pointed out was “you’re taking this quiz.” I hadn’t ever admitted to myself that I was an alcoholic and it was at that moment I had a revelation. It took me years after that to finally quit but that quiz was the beginning of my journey.

So I’ll just go ahead and say it: You’re posting here.
 
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Ughubughughughughughghlug said:
I had a huge, 2.5 month slingshot on not drinking when I went home for the Summer. At some point I cracked open a can of lager but I didn't feel like it was the end of the world because it stayed controlled, and up to this point it pretty much is still controlled, but I drank a bottle of wine today and I'm feeling hollow.

It mostly boils down to four facts for me:
Fact 1: If I start drinking I will keep drinking until I sleep.
Fact 2: If I have alcohol in my house I will drink it (triggering Fact 1).
Fact 3: I crave the feeling of intoxication specifically.
Fact 4: If I don't drink and I'm not visiting home, I will eventually crave to drink.

The way I was managing this, and it honestly works pretty well, is I only buy cans of Yuengling lager about every other day, and after a while I started to appreciate the beer more as an actual beverage, was getting used to normal drinking patterns, all that. I couldn't buy, say, a pack because although it's more cost efficient, Fact 2 and then Fact 1 would kick in. At the same time, though, just a can won't satisfy Fact 4 and Fact 3.

I called my Pa and talked a long time, which is not uncommon when I'm completely sober, but when it ended I felt the disappointment of the world crash down on me suddenly.
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The reason why you're not craving drinks at your home is because you're in surroundings that aren't associated with drinking for you.

Fact 3: I crave the feeling of intoxication specifically.
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That's what you think, but it's not. You crave the feeling of intoxication when you're in a place or doing things that you would normally be intoxicated for. That's why you don't get those cravings when you visit home.

It takes a while to get over those cravings and even months later after you haven't thought about drinking for a while something can suddenly trigger it. It's been a bit over a year for me and for the most part I don't really want to drink, even when I'm around people who drink. But a few things still bring on some cravings. I went camping this year for the first time since I stopped and that was tough. Camping and beer always went together for me. Another thing for some reason is when I'm in someone's house and they've got cases of beer or bottles of liquor stored, not even that they're drinking it, just that they've got it for some reason.

The more time you spend sober in places that you'd normally be drinking in or sober doing things you'd normally be drinking while doing, the less cravings you'll get. It's something you have to really want to do though. I've found, you have to commit and stick with it. Convince yourself that you're done with drinking. For me at least, there wasn't really much managing it because of

Fact 1: If I start drinking I will keep drinking until I sleep.
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The only way I've been able to stop is to not buy it period, at all. When I decided to quit I gave away the rest of the case of beer I had leftover and the bottle of fancy liquor I had saved away and I just don't buy it. I won't even buy non-alcoholic beer even though it looks like they've actually got decent non-alcoholic beer these days but I don't want to risk the taste making me crave the real thing.

I was mostly a drink every night after work excessively kind of drinker. So, I started buying those flavoured fizzy water drinks and those 60% less sugar oasis juice and mix a little bit of the juice and top up the glass with the fizzy shit. It helps for the habit of drinking something after work that would have otherwise been beer but it's not full of sugar like pop or something. A lot of former drunks seem to substitute alcohol for a sugar addiction and I don't want to do that.
 
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William Tyndale said:
Please watch this before you convert.

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Sorry for double post but I have recently been aware of megachurch scams before and mormonism could be one of them. It takes a serious special privilege to be a prophet. This is why I often have my own unique beliefs.
 
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Picrel. 10+ years of daily use, shit's hard to quit. Seeing Metokur's health problems made me rethink a lot, I don't want a fucking heart stent
Dude weed lmao
 
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Tsar Nicky said:
I'm trying to shed fat, get swole, and quit the ciggies. First two seem to be going fairly well, the latter goal is kicking my ass and spitting in my face. I'm smoking a lot less (like, A LOT) but can't seem to kick it. Send me thots and prayers. I wanna be able to run without gasping for air and feeling like my heart's going to explode so there's no way around it, bros
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If you can make it a week without having any, you'll pretty much be over it. It's tough to abstain for an entire week though, because smoking is fun and it goes with just about any activity. The mornings were the most challenging time for me, since that's when I wanted them the most. I'd smoke 2 or 3 in a row in the morning after breakfast, with coffee or a diet coke. If you can force yourself not to buy any or ask someone for one, in 5-6 days you lose that physical compulsion to light up. After that, it gets easier and easier until you eventually start wondering why you had to smoke in the first place. Don't get complacent and think you can have one or two cigarettes once in awhile after you "quit" and no longer have the daily habit. That's dangerous. It's ridiculously easy to go right back to your old pack a day habit.
Tsar Nicky said:
Got depressed thinking about my stupid life, just want to smoke. Have the self control to not get drunk like I would've when I was 20 - 22 but can't not smoke. How do you keep yourself on the wagon in this situation?
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Even if you manage to quit, stress is challenging. It's the reason why many smokers relapse. Something comes up in life, you get bothered and worried, and you remember how cigarettes were a good way to relieve some of that tension. That first cigarette tastes awful b/c you're not used to them any more. By the time you light the 2nd or 3rd one, you're back in 100%. It's like you never even quit. That's why stress is so dangerous, it can undo all the good progress you made by quitting.
 
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