Off-Topic When did you hit peak trans and why? - Finally realized that trans activism and gender ideology are harmful.

[Vandyke Clown]

The only two subgroups who willingly shack up with troons are the "pansexuals" (which is a word you should treat as an immediate red flag; the *only* reason someone uses that word is to denote being Moar Speshul than a lowly B because you have a tranny fetish)

Nah, that's not the only reason. Think about what pan means. Pan = everybody. Regardless of, say, age.

(Frankly, it's even broader than that. Pan encompasses bestiality and object fetishism too, like the woman who thought she married the Eiffel tower, or the man who has "anal sex" with car tailpipes.)

 

[BlaireWhitesBottom2]

I have no idea, none whatsoever, that it isn't blind stupid common sense that if you are doing something to contradict your body's perfectly normal natural processes when said body was perfectly healthy and properly functioning to start with, you are going to seriously fuck things up.

The body works the way it does for a reason. Introducing shit to it that causes otherwise normal and healthy operations to do something it simply wasn't programmed to do is going to be a disaster in the making.

Trust, in about 20 years, you'll see survivors of this fucking monstrosity of a movement on TV all over the place screaming "Why did no one stop this? Why did no one think about these things before they did this to me?"

Because right now, the world only seems to care about expedient solutions and not the next fucking step in the chain.

I put it akin to putting diesel in a regular gasoline tank. literally the russian twink/tranny im fucking with TOLD ME the hrt is fucking her insides up im like "why would you do that to yourself then?" i dont get it, i dont get 3/4 of the shit they do... i swear i feel more at home around niggers than i do most of the gay/bi community

and another thing.. the gay community has become a bunch of fucking faggots.. like tha 90s version of it. they literally seem to think its ok for them to spew whatever the fuck they want but GOD FORBID you say anything about them!

 

[Slur Generator]

Can you stop fucking trannies or at least stop talking about fucking trannies?
They are fucked in the head you know this and yet you still associate with them.
Whats wrong with you? In some ways you're even worse.

 

[AssignedEva]

What were, exactly, the books the actual Nazis actually burned? Just how close, exactly, are we to Weimar right now, in how many ways all at once?

Spoiler: Sperg

Not all the books were burned. You have to remember that library had a collection of works in the tens of thousands, and there were a few days after the Institut für Sexualwissenschaft was raided before the book burning happened, and people were going in to have a look around.

Even after the burning there were still a few stacks left. Many of these were smuggled or looted, or ended up being seized by the Nazi state to be sold (like they did with any art they deemed to be degenerate). So consequently there are parts of the collection being recovered today.

Despite what we're being told, the institute wasn't just a transgender clinic or even a gay clinic; it was a holistic sexology research institute. Certainly there were collected studies on transgender surgery, but this isn't lost knowledge because it was the 1930s and they had a brute force approach (they didn't invert anything, they literally sliced it all off and then dug a hole). Interviews with transgender patients and case studies would also have been in the archives, along with scientific journals. They published their own scientific journal, Jahrbuch für sexuelle Zwischenstufen ("Annual for sexual intermediaries"), looking at gay and intersex people, and were preparing documents for a medical conference about intersex conditions.

Also all the paperwork surrounding the World League for Sexual Reform, which was campaigning for things we'd recognise as progressive causes today (civil marriage, birth control, destigmitisation of illegitimate children) and also regressive causes (eugenic birth selection). Additionally there were gay interest magazines in the archive like Der Eigene ("The Unique"), but plenty of other interest topics including books of poetry who were written by people who'd go on to be semi-important Nazis who wanted to increase genetic purity. There was also art collections, historic works (e.g. a folio of very gay seeming poems and writings by Friedrich Schiller) and an ethnographic collection of artefacts from around the world. Also the other stuff you'd expect from a place like that, like the collected works of Freud. A women's rights organisation used to meet there as well to discuss various forms of women's lib, and I don't think much is known about them because that all got burned. Also pornography. I can't attach pictures right now but you can see there were collections of pornography in the photographs the Nazis took of them flipping through the books, which again would make sense for a sexology researcher.

There were also a litany of personal effects from clients (it appears it operated as a sexual health clinic, counselling centre and social hub) including the personal writings of a German doctor who turned up there one night on the eve of his wedding and donated it all, because he was going to commit suicide because he couldn't face marrying a woman but felt he had no other choice. Bleak.

Basically what was lost was likely of historic interest, but it'd only be of historical interest - they hadn't invented some arcane transgender ceremony that made them women. Most of the notable works in that collection will have survived in some form, the real loss is the unique stuff that only existed in that library that historians would have liked to read.

As for how close we are to Weimar? As much as the "Goldene Zwanziger" is mythicised, it was still the 1920s. Weimar was seen as very racy compared to society at large, but there were similar things going on in other big cities, just not as blatantly or to the same scale. Germany was in dire straights so there were bigger issues than the gay bars (several notable ones were Eldorado, Dorian Gray and Kleist Kasino) - with a lot of impoverished men turning to sex work with wealthy foreign patrons who'd come over because Berlin had the sort of reputation, idk, Tijuana has now (Christopher Isherwood - whose novel got made into Cabaret - reflected later in life that he regretted how he'd treated Berlin as a theme park, and early German gay rights movement Bund für Menschenrecht were actively opposed to the sort of stuff that went on in there).

Homosexuality was illegal for the whole period and although some gay magazines did get published, they were subject to censorship - especially post-Schmutz-und Schundgesetz ("dirt and filth law"). Transsexuals were at best seen as fascinating freaks or novelties

Between the dances, in which even the normal person can indulge in the spicy pleasure of dancing with an effeminate man in women's clothing, there are stage performances. A male singer with his shrill soprano sings ambiguous Parisian songs. A very girlish revue star dances graceful pirouettes under the spotlight. He is naked except for his breastplate and a loin cloth, and even this nudity is still deceptive, it still puzzles the audience, it still leaves doubts about whether it's a man or a woman. One of the most delightful and elegant women present in the whole hall is often the petite Bob, and there are enough men who, in the depths of their hearts, regret that he is not a girl, that nature has cheated them of a delicious lover through a mistake

So how close are we to Weimar? Most of the West had probably more or less caught up with it by the 1970s, with certain cities (London, Paris, New York) arguably getting there by the 1950s. We're far beyond Weimar now. To the extent that I don't think Dr Magnus Hirschfeld would be all that happy with it, even (although he'd probably first be freaking out about race stuff).

 

[doodoocaca]

We're far beyond Weimar now.

 

[doodoocaca]

From some studies i've seen, at least autism can have some upsides.( even though i'd understand anyone who would take something if it cured them of it.)Gender dysphoria or being trans has literally no upside to it.Unless someone wants to continue deluding themselves into believing that one day sex changes will be possible, there is no benefit with wanting to turn your body into a frankenstien experiment.This is why the concept of trans pride is stupid.Even if the brain argument was true its basically saying "I'm proud of being born in the wrong body, and deluding myself that i'll be my truth self by chopping off my body parts, and taking drugs for the rest of my life."

Has anyone told autists normal people can have hobbies, interests, fixations, or concentration too? lol.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

I reached peak with my brother. I tried to walk him back with it by explaining basic biology but his trans "friends" took him away. I started looking online for research and eventually found the farms which I showed him all of the men who have been trans for years but still don't pass and are miserable . He doesn't care, he's already cut off his dick and called me and our mom a "transphobe". Dad is in full support so I suspected him to be a fag as well. He recently came out to my mom that he was trans and bi...

This all happened in the span of 7 months. My brother already had his dick chopped off and is in pain. His doctor won't even accept his calls. I haven't even talked to dad since he said he was trans.

So here is a horrible thought but it has probably crossed your mind:

Did dad have, let's say, some poor boundaries with this son, perchance?

Pretty beyond bizarre and fucked up for dad and son to troon out together, so something else is likely broiling beneath the surface level horror here, unfortunately.

If I were in your unfortunate position I would tell mom and the sensible sibling/s they know where to find me and put in some major distance from the crowd for a while to see how things shake out.

 

[doodoocaca]

Did dad have, let's say, some poor boundaries with this son, perchance?

 

[Anasûrimbor Kellhus]

I reached peak with my brother. I tried to walk him back with it by explaining basic biology but his trans "friends" took him away. I started looking online for research and eventually found the farms which I showed him all of the men who have been trans for years but still don't pass and are miserable . He doesn't care, he's already cut off his dick and called me and our mom a "transphobe". Dad is in full support so I suspected him to be a fag as well. He recently came out to my mom that he was trans and bi...

This all happened in the span of 7 months. My brother already had his dick chopped off and is in pain. His doctor won't even accept his calls. I haven't even talked to dad since he said he was trans.

Lord have mercy only 7 months? Hope everything ends up well for you and your mom....

 

[Jacques1194]

I reached peak with my brother. I tried to walk him back with it by explaining basic biology but his trans "friends" took him away. I started looking online for research and eventually found the farms which I showed him all of the men who have been trans for years but still don't pass and are miserable . He doesn't care, he's already cut off his dick and called me and our mom a "transphobe". Dad is in full support so I suspected him to be a fag as well. He recently came out to my mom that he was trans and bi...

This all happened in the span of 7 months. My brother already had his dick chopped off and is in pain. His doctor won't even accept his calls. I haven't even talked to dad since he said he was trans.

Both your dad and brother came out as trans?Seriously, how is no one seeing this as the social contingency that it is?

 

[doodoocaca]

Because troons are props to be waved about by people who just want to look good themselves.

 

[Nevermore]

So here is a horrible thought but it has probably crossed your mind:

Did dad have, let's say, some poor boundaries with this son, perchance?

If I were in your unfortunate position I would tell mom and the sensible sibling/s they know where to find me and put in some major distance from the crowd for a while to see how things shake out.

I've thought off and on about this because dad was never like that with me and my sister and I never knew that he was like that with our brother. I also wouldn't know since they spent a lot of time alone together but I always and still suspect that to just be a son and father thing. My brother has also never said anything that would make me think something like that happened and we were very close.

I hate to PL but dad has in the past few days moved out of the house and got an apartment. What will come of this, I don't know but I've told mom there is nothing any of us can do at this point but tell them the truth. Just let both of them ruin their lives and realize their mistakes on their own if they want to. To my dad's credit, he has said that if they get a divorce he wants her to have the house since she didn't "sign up for this". So I will give him credit there for being a good man. Still won't talk to him though.

 

[Corn Flakes]

To my dad's credit, he has said that if they get a divorce he wants her to have the house since she didn't "sign up for this". So I will give him credit there for being a good man. Still won't talk to him though.

I don't want to be a full downer, but don't count your chickens before they hatch. Trannies' egos and persecution complexes inflate at maximum speed. So a promise he makes now might just be ignored later because he got so heckin' validated by people online that he thinks he deserves half the house too.

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

Me: Would you rather A or B?
Idiot: A or B would never happen
Me: It is an hypothetical, would you rather A or B?
Idiot: A or B would never happen

Insufferable.

At some point I read a thing (possibly apocryphal, but now I'm starting to wonder) that people with severe enough autism or below a certain IQ literally cannot process hypotheticals. The test was asking something like "how would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast today?" and the only response they could get back was "but I did eat breakfast today".

 

[AssignedEva]

At some point I read a thing (possibly apocryphal, but now I'm starting to wonder) that people with severe enough autism or below a certain IQ literally cannot process hypotheticals. The test was asking something like "how would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast today?" and the only response they could get back was "but I did eat breakfast today".

They struggle with perspective taking. They can only understand their own perspective. I've sperged about it before -

This is a neurological thing that can be used for diagnosing children with developmental delays or autism.
Sam puts a bouncy ball inside a red box. The box is labelled Barbie dolls. Next to it is a blue box labelled bouncy balls, which has a Teddy bear inside it. Sally then walks in the room and wants to play with a bouncy ball. Which box does she open first, the blue box labelled bouncy balls, or the red box labelled Barbie dolls?

Developmentally typical child, Piaget stage 3: She opens the blue box labelled bouncy balls, because she thinks there's a bouncy ball inside.

Autistic/delayed child: She opens the red box labelled Barbie dolls, because that's where the bouncy ball is.

The irony is that a lot of TRAs will repeat inane hypotheticals like "If you woke up tomorrow as a woman..." or "If a scientist used my cells to grow a cis woman body and then transplanted my brain into it and brainwashed false memories of growing up as a woman so I didn't have male socialisation..." which would also never happen, and are also far more removed from reality than a button that gets rid of the feeling of wanting to transition.
The same people might actually do both things, actually. Partly because some of them don't argue in good faith, and partly because those with the perspective taking issue can probably understand something that fits with their fantasies but would struggle with something that goes against it.

 

[Mad_Dog]

At some point I read a thing (possibly apocryphal, but now I'm starting to wonder) that people with severe enough autism or below a certain IQ literally cannot process hypotheticals. The test was asking something like "how would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast today?" and the only response they could get back was "but I did eat breakfast today".

Quite a few racist memes follow that trope. Good stuff.

 

[Poonocchio]

There is going to be so much early-onset osteoporosis, which doesn't sound too scary until you remember that your spine is made out of bones.

This is what pisses me off when these pricks say Lupron/Zoladex doesn't have any side effects. If women over 18 with crippling endometriosis can't be on it for relief for more than 6 months because of the risks what the FUCK are you doing giving it to children who's bones are still growing for an unspecified period of time and saying "literally reversable"?

 

[Aunt Carol]

This is what pisses me off when these pricks say Lupron/Zoladex doesn't have any side effects. If women over 18 with crippling endometriosis can't be on it for more than 6 months because of the risks what the FUCK are you doing giving it to children who's bones are still growing for an unspecified period of time and saying "literally reversable"?

And they're not even saying "yeah it's strong stuff, but the benefits outweigh the risks," which is an obvious way to spin it. It goes with their usual suicide threat strat.

They're saying Lupron has no risks if it's being prescribed for ideologically-pure reasons. Like the joke about the Thermos, how do it know?

 

[Baraadmirer]

what the fuck is tohou?

A franchise that's primarily vertical shooter bullet hell (with some official titles going for the fighting route) where all the major characters are female and vary from human to not human. @YachieKicchou and @Toutestu Yuuma are examples of such characters. I play the games occasionally but thankfully I haven't seen much of the "uwu I identify with Touhou characters so that makes me twans" drivel. For example, there's Marisa Lago, who named themself after the deuteragonist of the series.

 

[Troonslayer41]

I don't know how it's like Muslims can be well behaved if they're massively in the minority but the moment they hit a critical mass you start getting rape gangs, honor killings and the whole panoply of shitty Third World behavior, but the first trans people I bet were more or less normal and didn't throw their weight around (and also weren't fat as fuck).

Fairly recently I saw my first outright troon in the wild, and it was exactly the stereotype, six foot something dude built like a linebacker in the usual dumpster-dived looking clothes, five o'clock shadow, smeared-on clown makeup, bulging Madam's Apple, crazy eyes, and obvious chip on shoulder waiting to shriek "It's MAAAAAAAA'AM!" at someone. They could practically have walked right out of tumblr onto the street.

Did he look something like this? Lol