🐟 Fishtank Sam Hyde's Fishtank.live General - Jet Neptune's Little House of Horrors

[Mentally Iller Detractor]

If that contract is real there's a bunch of "Sam owns your life rights, can make a website with your name, and also can randomly change the rules" stuff that probably eliminated quite a few people.

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[56 others]

Jon already has bwain damage, I hope Sam grooms him to be his boxing champion

Over/Under of Idubbbz and adjacent people trying to interview fish to make Sam look bad?

 

[Mr.Bucket]

Just got back from work and kept up via KF when it wasn't broken.

I gotta say, Jon is starting to grate on me. He has moments of content but every, single, time he doesn't get his way he tardrages and either just ruins everyone else's fun (bible-karaoke over the Simmons books until everyone left, ridding us of that comedy gold), breaks other peoples' shit (destroying the simmons books, ridding us of that comedy gold), barricades himself in a bathroom/bedroom/etc., and/or goes crying to Jet/Sam/any other member of the crew. He refuses to play by the rules, even as nebulous as they may be. Won't eat the hot dogs, refused to sleep in a bedroom and took sharks to get his ass into one then refused to sleep in a bed even when sharks tried multiple times, still sleeps on the couch/living room floor, hid in the laundry room despite the hide and seek challenge being on the second floor, refuses to even half-assedly pretend to be skizo. Thankfully he toned down on peaking out the shitty security camera mics every 30 seconds.
It makes me wonder if he was even more spoiled than Letty growing up or at the very least wasn't told "no" enough. Or if he is just more of a bitch than even Letty and can't handle not getting what he wants. Even she can at least handle disappointment with some shred of dignity.

On the point of lavalier'ing the cast: That would be a complete and total nightmare. Can you imagine having to tard wrangle these fucks twice a day? Once when they wake up to get wireless mics on them, then again when they randomly head off to bed to get the mics off to recharge/replace the batteries. And then Jon tardraging and breaking them on a regular basis. And then muting/removing them every time someone had to piss/shit/shower. And making sure each person got the same mic every day so when Jon goes to take a giant shit they don't accidentally mute Vance instead and everyone gets to hear the power straining. There would also probably be wireless interference when all the cast got too close. A few room mics (like what they use in churches to record the congregation, etc.) hanging off the ceilings would do the job. One in the middle of the living room, one in the middle of the kitchen, and one in the space between them. The bedrooms/hallways are small enough for the camera mics to be serviceable.

At this point, and subject to change, I'd want either Josie or Letty to win. Josie just because she's so neutral and just doing her thing to the best of her ability and Letty because, while she has tried to be a conniving schemer several times, is constantly getting screwed over by Sam/Jon/TTS/everyone else. And she at least seems somewhat salvageable as a human being if she got therapy and actually put effort into it. Now if she actually did that would be entirely debatable.

 

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Well I guess Simmons is fucked then. Sam can say anything he wants about him being a pedo.

 

[Polska krowa]

@Mr.Bucket This. Jon is ruining the game right now. If you think Damiel should be kicked out because they bent the rules to bring him back in, then you should equally want Jon to be kicked out because they keep bending the rules to keep him there. His occasional funny moment (which is generally just loud = funny) is outweighed by him being a whiny bitch and a big baby who hides and cries whenever anything doesn't go the way he wants it to (mid 20s, btw).

I get that a lot of people have their own pet retards on this show, and the Jon fans shout the loudest in this thread (as the Josie fans do on /tv/; there's nothing wrong with doing so, too), but he's been increasingly sandbagging the whole thing over the last few days.

 

[Mr.Bucket]

@Mr.Bucket This. Jon is ruining the game right now. If you think Damiel should be kicked out because they bent the rules to bring him back in, then you should equally want Jon to be kicked out because they keep bending the rules to keep him there. His occasional funny moment (which is generally just loud = funny) is outweighed by him being a whiny bitch and a big baby who hides and cries whenever anything doesn't go the way he wants it to (mid 20s, btw).

I get that a lot of people have their own pet retards on this show, and the Jon fans shout the loudest in this thread (as the Josie fans do on /tv/; there's nothing wrong with doing so, too), but he's been increasingly sandbagging the whole thing over the last few days.

Jon just reminds me so much of how I was when I was in elementary school. Speech impediment(same one as his), being mad when I didn't get my way(breaking shit, barricading myself in my room, yadda yadda), distancing myself from others with different beliefs, etc. But I was like... 10. Not mid 20's.

 

[apa gapa]

Without intervention Sylvia would definitely be going out next. Still, everyone knows she's the weakest link (Vance straight up said she isn't a threat, Letty wouldn't directly shit on Sylvia but still implied it), and certain other contestants are on thin ice (like Jon for refusing to do today's challenges). That's why people like Vance are trying to take out more competitive contestants early so they'll have an easier time later.

The thing is, that all hinges on Sam/Jet not changing the rules or just eliminating unpopular contestants unilaterally. There's a very good chance they'll cave to retards in the audience and rig things to the route they think is more entertaining, which would ironically just make things boring again.

People in this thread always autistically tries to talk about game theory and how the fishes play each other. But the problem is they are not going to vote each other out, Its going to be Sam picking out someone he personally doesn't like with the twitter/fishtank polls as an influence.

Scheming will basically get you nowhere unless you wanna try to sabotage the challenge for someone which they seem too afraid to do after the baby shaking. The true game is to either get Sam to like you or get the audience to like you, which they have really no control over especially towards other people.

 

[Polska krowa]

Jon just reminds me so much of how I was when I was in elementary school. Speech impediment(same one as his), being mad when I didn't get my way(breaking shit, barricading myself in my room, yadda yadda), distancing myself from others with different beliefs, etc. But I was like... 10. Not mid 20's.

The way he believes everything any "adult" tells him says loads about his mental age, too. I.e., believing that Joe Rogan (the trained scientist) had empirically proven that drinking coffee (a diuretic) would hydrate you as much as water.

I don't even particularly want Jon out, I just want the treatment for all fish to be the same, and for Jet/Sam to stop mollycoddling him

 

[VeePeeN]

I don’t understand how they haven’t come to the conclusion to just leave shit like this alone. Give them the competitions, and stop trying to dictate everything these people do. It doesn’t feel natural and starts to feel forced.

I think it was a yt video where I heard someone thinking that the format had a possibility of veering into WWE territory, with the producers not being able to resist the urge to steer the content.

Imo, that would definitely be the death of the show. Just look at how awful WWE became once they went public, becoming accountable to a board that only wants to see $-line go up, a la the paypiggies. When it was just a bunch of gifted lunatics bouncing off of each other (creatively and physically), it was one of the best things on TV. Most of the best moments in wrestling occured naturally, while some of the worst were micromanaged into existence.

I think deciding to do this at the same time as MDE2 was a bad idea. Granted, he's surely trusting Jet with the day to day operations, and he definitely needs to stay the fuck away from twitter when gauging what makes this show entertaining, but he just needs to either trust Jet (thats asking a fucking lot, I really like Jet, but he hasn't proven himself a whole lot regarding content creation***), or get the directing out of his system while working on MDE2 during the day, and just do the job of a lead manager and make sure the crew has what they need to make shit happen.

addend*** - Jet had to be the catalyst for sam embracing streaming more (which he is godawful at, but I still will listen for background noise), and his zillow show with Rochefort was doing great at one point (not sure if it still is, haven't paid attention).

I think his best contribution creatively would've been with the nft project (don't know how well that did either, but I've heard it made sam money, I hope that's not a trend), as even Sam would praise his work on the cards on stream and I hope I can find the clip where he does. Jet looks like a kid at Christmas, cheering ear to ear with a gleam in his eye cuz his daddy said, "I'm proud of you, my son."

Unfortunately, he's also tasked with the zoomer wigger crew (Ben's at least a competent in-front-of-camera guy), so I feel for him there.

 

[rollotheviking]

@Mr.Bucket This. Jon is ruining the game right now. If you think Damiel should be kicked out because they bent the rules to bring him back in, then you should equally want Jon to be kicked out because they keep bending the rules to keep him there. His occasional funny moment (which is generally just loud = funny) is outweighed by him being a whiny bitch and a big baby who hides and cries whenever anything doesn't go the way he wants it to (mid 20s, btw).

I get that a lot of people have their own pet retards on this show, and the Jon fans shout the loudest in this thread (as the Josie fans do on /tv/; there's nothing wrong with doing so, too), but he's been increasingly sandbagging the whole thing over the last few days.

You’re right but for all of the wrong reasons. Producers produce. Whether you want to call it coaxing or manipulating, it’s what they do to make the show entertaining. They could have two logic: logic of participation - understandable by participants - and the production behind the show - subversion of the participants. I think Jet and Sam are essentially thinking in more strictly in terms of the former and latter, respectively, and rather than work together to do both, Sam is ruining everything because his attention is split, and Jet is responsible for too much to become detached. In fact, he is essentially a "daytime host" at this point. The good cop bad cop thing could work with Jet and Sam, but somebody else needs to be behind the scenes.

Where you’re on target is that the show is not cohesive enough from the participant's perspective. Unfairness has less to do with it since the producers could just as easily use it as a device to develop tension. But because they are not doing it with foresight, it's all ad hoc and shoddy.

Even with Dam, they could have played it off better: "After the SWAT, cops found priors on Dam. He has just been charged with x, and we will co-operate with the police. We don't know if he's coming back." Not to suggest that that would have worked. Only that they didn't even try: he just left and returned without explanation.

 

[rollotheviking]

People in this thread always autistically tries to talk about game theory and how the fishes play each other. But the problem is they are not going to vote each other out, Its going to be Sam picking out someone he personally doesn't like with the twitter/fishtank polls as an influence.

Scheming will basically get you nowhere unless you wanna try to sabotage the challenge for someone which they seem too afraid to do after the baby shaking. The true game is to either get Sam to like you or get the audience to like you, which they have really no control over especially towards other people.

Sam being a bad cop, could work if he didn't hold all the strings. Because he has bankrolled this project, he is EP which means he's going - or should be - by popularity and sales. Even that wouldn't necessarily be bad if it was done less disruptive. I've seen someone here suggest using mini-tasks/pair-ups as a conduit for scheming, and this is correct. People can then sabotage their teammates in terms of the larger picture. For example, Letty could have involved Jon in the baby-snatching scheme "You are immune, and Simmons is a pedo. Lets work to get him out".

 

[WTBOnlineFather]

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Imagine literally selling your soul to Sam Hyde for $10,000.
I can't decide if this is horrifying or hilarious, but Sam has certainly delivered yet again.

 

[VeePeeN]

Imagine literally selling your soul to Sam Hyde for $10,000.

For the 1in7 CHANCE to win $10K. So selling their souls for slightly worse than a dice roll that takes 6 weeks of your life living with other exceptional individuals far from home.

 

[Zilortha]

I can't reply to the post, but I don't think Vance is a lefty.
Maybe I missed some big stuff, but after checking out his twitter and seeing him call some pediatrician a pixar villain after he said kids should wear masks, and seeing him talk about kicking Mitch McConnell down the stairs for refusing to impeach Biden, I don't think he's particularly left-leaning.

 

[eaglesfan665]

SOZ LONG POAST -- Finally caught up with the thread and yesterday's happenings, some thoughts (sorry if the quotes are a little out of order):

Not been the centre of attention.

Arguable when it comes to getting attention from the other contestants but a bunch of people here and in fishtank chat are still talking about Jon, even if in a negative light, which brings me to the next point:

This shit happens every few days with Jon. The Jon cycle is law at this point.

Jon creates Jontent causing people in chat to like him. Jon peaks with the Jontent (i.e the Letty talk last night). Jon spergs out at something causing people to hate him. Crew talks with Jon and calms him down. Jon comes back reinvented. Jon starts producing Jontent causing people to like him. The cycle repeats until fishtank ends.

Jon's "peaks" have created massive expectations and that shows whenever he doesn't meet them. Jon is suffering from his own success but paradoxically even when he was a boring schizophrenic his nontent still ended up being content, namely the discussions around his reasons for being mopey and his justifications for not being a Lance-type, balls-to-the-wall schizo. I also saw the twitter poll that had Jon and Sylvia as the favorites to leave, as well as a bunch of fishtank chatters being anti-Jon and some people in this thread being annoyed with what they perceive as Jon ruining the challenge and being coddled like a baby, and I think these sentiments are misguided. Remember, this challenge is to last a week and a week ain't over yet. Plus, even though the expectations people have of Jon are massive he does inevitable end up meeting, as he has proven time and time again since the show started.

The challenges lacking consistent rules is probably the BIGGEST issue. Like this latest challenge, they just went and said "Never mind, no fish bucks for you!" Who would stay motivated to do challenges when now you don't know if you'll even get paid if you "win"?

I think the crew are trying to cultivate the idea that the meta-rule is "be entertaining", which in fact is pretty solidly consistent. I actually think (as some other people said) that Jet and the guys shouldn't meddle too much with the natural flow of things. These people are funnier on their own than when they're being forced into acting retarded on top of their assigned disabilities.

Sylvia said she thinks Jon's getting out next since he's not taking the challenge seriously.

This is just fucking ironic and I'll leave it at that.

When did Jon get a copy of Hagakure? I would definitely enjoy hearing a reading of that just as a change from the Bible. I think some of the aphorisms and advice in there might be useful for him unless of course he takes it literally.

Also Jon cried several times on the show because he's a retard baby and everyone loved him after that.

I tend to think most people like Jon in spite of him crying.

Vance says he's pretty confident that Jon's going to be the next one out, considering he's given up on the challenge.

Again, like with Sylvia, ironic. Also, I saw people complaining about Jon dissing the troops but did anyone get upset at vance for stealing valour or is that his next arc?

CONCLUSION: boring day; today will be better; jontent incoming

 

[Blitzsneed]

When did Jon get a copy of Hagakure? I would definitely enjoy hearing a reading of that just as a change from the Bible. I think some of the aphorisms and advice in there might be useful for him unless of course he takes it literally.

Most likely from Sam, because he praised the book and talked often about it in his streams/PGL.

 

[KingFrampt]

It's kind of lame that Josie gets a free pass on both disabilities for 'health reasons'

Day 1
Walking down the stairs she was allowed to peak, she could also clearly see sometimes while she was in bedroom 4. I don't think anyone had this disability on day 2, but maybe it'll come back

Day 2
Josie was let off of tourettes because 'she might develop a tic', instead of assigning her a different disability or making her do different tics they just let her off completely, this is after barely even trying for half of the day

I am predicting if they continue this challenge that tomorrow when they decide she is deaf, she'll be allowed to listen every 30 minutes because too much silence is harmful to her health or some shit

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Also the amputee challenge is retarded, because Letty was completely immobilized day 1, couldn't eat and couldn't even piss properly, yet Sylvia doesn't even get strapped down and has to do it herself, which made it so she could cheat during hide and seek (you could see her vaping) and she can feed herself AND go to the bathroom/bathe herself as normal..

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I do feel like Jon was trying to do a poor mans version of Schizo after Ben talked to him cause he swapped the bedroom posters around which isn't really something you'd do if you were just mad

 

[Grinrow2]

Josie was let off of tourettes because 'she might develop a tic', instead of assigning her a different disability

God I fucking hate the coddling Josie gets shes such a creepy fake bitch and Josiecells should be executed

 

[Blitzsneed]

God I fucking hate the coddling Josie gets shes such a creepy fake bitch

lol calm down
But Josie does almost nothing interesting, which makes her boring as fuck. I even dare to say she's as boring as Sylvia, and even the Hog shits/schemes on people behind their backs. Josie is just.....there.

Josiecels should be executed

I completely agree with this statement. But they're the most mentally stunted people with a lot of money, so the crew does a good job milking them. I actually am concerned about her when the show's over, she's going to get a lot of stalkers.

 

[Crankenstein]

Damiel is guilty of Chiligate 2023, not Vance and certainly not Lance. Lance is a saint and Vance just says "yeah".

I can't believe no one has done this yet.
Lance Vance was broken in to two independent entities after his alleged death in the 80s.