Preliminary rumors coming through.
Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion
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simple, Russia's currently held territories are roughly 20% of Ukrain (I think, someone correct me on this), so if Russia keeps those the MSM media will spin this into a vicotry by saying stuff like "Russia couldn't even take one fourth of Ukraine, lmao fucking losers", even if Russia where to take say 80% of Ukraine (not gonna happen but let's pretend they do) the MSM can simply say shit like "lol, years of war and Russia couldn't even fully conquer the weakest country in Europe, fucking losers" the niggercattle will happily accept it and move on the next Current Thing
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Still looking for his balls I heard so probably a long time.
If I were to guess, Russia will take as much as it believes it can control and leave the rest as a barren no man's land. The Donbass made up 80% of Ukraine's gross domestic product and that's gone forever. With a population bereft of women of marriage age, the only Ukrainians left will be the very old, the very young and disabled veterans. Poland, Hungary and maybe Romania will grab what they can.
Ukraine as a nation is already dead and gone. No Ukrainian that can avoid it will return. Europe will be forever saddled with Ukrainian refugees and it will be like having millions of Cubans who fled Castro, but in Europe. Ukrainians are worse than the most rabid anti-Castro Cuban since Cubans are generally pleasant to be around (when not raging about commies) but holhols have mastered the art of corruption and larceny on a level rarely seen anywhere else, and won't stfu with the Slava Uracina entitlement. Europe, Canada and the US may use some of the more loony war veterans as expendable terrorists, just like they did with some of the Bay of Pigs/SS Galizien veterans; Russia may not be their only target. Remember to look at history to see what our glowies might use them for,
Individual Poles are already fed up. After the effects of the DU dust cloud wafting into Western Europe become known, I suspect we'll see more of this kind of thing in other countries. I wish you all yuros the best.
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When this was originally reported they said a Ukrainian soldier and a NATO advisor (I think was the word) were killed. I haven't seen mention of that since though. So maybe they have some level of expertise in country.
I saw a post that he turned up at someone's wedding (with pictures). Could very well have been a shit post though.
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Russians 2 and 0 removing Nazi's from Bakhmut. And they are doing it the 2nd time around with basically the same tech they used to do it the 1st time 80 years ago
An area to dangerous to enter? Just take it apart with artillery. This is how the Russians have always done it. And unlike the USA they can still actually manufacture shells.
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Russians 2 and 0 removing Nazi's from Bakhmut. And they are doing it the 2nd time around with basically the same tech they used to do it the 1st time 80 years ago
They aren't really Nazis though. Ukraine has essentially always been a part of Russia. However, the CIA needed to find some nationalistic identity for propaganda purposes. In order for the population to be aggressive against Russia. So the brief alliance with Nazi elements during WW2 was the only thing they could go with from history. Ukrainians barely mention Hitler. It's all about the nationalistic Bandera angle, cultivated over decades.
They're just bloodthirsty nationalistic zealots using Nazi imagery. Directed at Russia by the CIA.
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He actually went to Saudi Arabia yesterday for some reason. Perhaps secretly hoping they can broker a deal. He may or may not have stopped back in Kiev for a couple hours the day before for a quick photo op before leaving again. Pictures were released but even if current everyone is starting to catch on to the fact that he really really doesn't want to be in Ukraine right now. My crazy theory is he's testing the waters for his future residence in exile.
They might try that line of bullshit but I don't think it'll work. It would be the equivalent of a hostile force invading the US, taking New York, California, Florida and Texas while destroying the entire US military before stopping and the media and politicians bragging "So? Those losers couldn't take Mississippi!!!!".
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*Sorry for the image heavy post but it best illustrates my point since these are immediately the first in an internet search with the words "Nazi+Ukraine+Bandera"
That's Stephan Bandera in the center, who stated on the summer of 1941 the OUN-B would work under Hitler/Third Reich in newly declared client state of the Ukraine.
They actually are.
Parts of it have also been Polish, Hungarian and Romanian, which incidentally is now the Western Ukraine, where this originates.
That's Stephan Bandera in the center, who stated on the summer of 1941 the OUN-B would work under Hitler/Third Reich in newly declared client state of the Ukraine.
The problem with this is that its not just Russia. Research suggests the sudden proliferation of Neo-Nazi/Fascist groups in Europe/USA is being astroturfed by intelligence agencies, primarily the Five Eyes, as was likely the case with ISIS, for various purposes but primarily to destabilize nations and exert greater control. That's a subject for an entirely new thread, but the "nationalists" in power in Ukraine are legit Neo-Nazis.
Think of the portion of Neo-Nazis also in Wagner ranks, they are pitting Neo-Nazis against Neo-Nazis. So it appears then they are all just a bunch of LARPers.
They are just a murderous version of this girl.
The elites are probably laughing their asses off
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Virtually ever picture the media publishes of a Ukranian soldier has a NAZI symbol somewhere in it. Until you can show me something similar from Wagner I'm calling bullshit.
Wagners a PMC, it's not the Russian Army. One of the Chiefs said "We don't care what your ideology is, as long as you put Wagner Group first"
I don't want to get bogged down in meaningless crap here. People fucking lose their shit these days if they see a Swastika, but then they go to Starbucks and watch a 5000 person Communist party march go by and they don't give a shit. Everyones brainwashed to hell.
"I'm a Nazi, but I just kill for money"
"Oh, I am also a Nazi but I kill for a Jewish President planning an LGBTQ Pride victory parade"
Fuck off.
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I know Wagner is a private mercenary force. That's all that was needed to wipe out the 2nd largest military in Europe - but that's beside the point. What does a 5-year-old blur of an image of three randos have to do with anything?
Now that you mention it, since Wagner is a private mercenary-for-hire force how would Russia be responsible if three Nazi's were in it 5+ years ago? Hell those weirdos could just as easily be Ukrainians who joined Wagner back then for the chance to go kill brown people in Syria. They existed.
Is there a reason you didn't post a link to the actual article in "Inform Napalm" (whatever the fuck that is) where your blurry screencap is from? Is it because your 5-year-old article uses 10-year-old posts as their evidence? Because they do. Here I'll help: https://informnapalm.org/en/russian-neo-nazis-in-the-ranks-of-wagner-pmc/
Do you have anything more recent that shows Prigozhin tolerating Nazis today? He's killing so many of them that he's basically turned into crazy Col. Kurtz from Apocalypse Now. Should I post a few pics of Ukrainian Nazis from like the past 5 months? How many would you like?
My point is, I don't see how the Nazi thing is relevant. We've seen the Ukrainian soldiers DO horrible things to soldiers and citizens in Eastern Ukraine. Who cares if he has a fucking Tri-Force tattoo? They did horrible things. Despite some people in Wagner PMC showing off Nazi symbols, I've not seen any reports of anything like that from Russias side.
I don't know why people get so hung up on symbology. That Ukrainian soldier just shot that Russian surrendering! Isn't that worse than a squiggle?
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Wagner PMC, like you said, is not the Russian Army. Azov, Aidar, Kraken, various Right Sektor/Svoboda offshoots are Neo-Nazis and part of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, so Neo-Nazis operate under the color of law in Ukraine, whereas in Russia no Neo-Nazis are allowed to do so under penalty of criminal prosecution.
No one is "fucking lose their shit" over the mere sighting of the Hakenkreuz but you seem to believe imbeciles who couldn't explain what the tenets of National Socialism are if their lives depended on it who serve as soldiers in a nation's military and mercenaries employed by a private military contractor are exactly the same.
They are not. One is the legitimate representative of a country's armed forces, the other is an employee of a private enterprise.
It's as if you have no clue what the foundational event of modern Russia is, especially since May 9 was just eleven days ago this month. You do you.
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It took me all of six minutes to connect your InformNapalm.org website directly to Ukraine's Ministry of Defense. Vladimir Kolesnikov, the guy who originally registered the domain back in 2014 when Ukraine started burning people alive in Donbass works for them. You've heard of the infamous "Kill List" maintained by Ukraine and supported by the US CIA that has all the independent journalists on it and anyone else who dares question Zelensky? Guess who is behind that? Yep, same guy: https://strategic-culture.org/news/...st-actually-run-by-kiev-backed-by-washington/
Do you fall for bullshit propaganda often?
Although the whois info is private now here's independent verification of it's registration history: https://www.whoxy.com/informnapalm.org#history
Yes I know Putin said "We have to de-nazify Ukraine" he's technically correct. And he is using the population memory of WW2 to increase morale. However he is making an omission in not stating that the Bandera centric Nazism in Ukraine was fostered by the US in order to depose the Soviet Union, and then later when he became a problem, Putin.
But the average person isn't going to grasp the complexities of that. It's much easier to say "Somehow a Jewish led Nazi state exists and we have to stop them"
I was agreeing with you dude.
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What? Why would he need to make that distinction? Because you find it notable? Russians aren't children that must have everything explained to them, they are very much aware the US is out to break up Russia, destroy the Russian state, her culture, her history and even her language without Putin stating the obvious.
Infinitely more Russians speak and read English than Americans speak and read Russian so they know what the US/NATO is up to.
I think you assume Russians are just like Americans. Let me be the first to tell you they are not. For one, they can't help but suppress the impulse to break out laughing when they hear anyone claim the Jan 6 boomer tailgate party was an "insurrection" and "worst than 9-11".
For two, Russians know what a real insurrection looks like and Jan 6 would not have even rated a mention on Izvestia on its slowest news day.
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Everyone has their blind spots. The Russians just happen to be different to the Americans.
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I'd say more Russians understand who and what's behind Ukraine's bullshit than most Americans, even Americans in our government; however, slime like Vindman knew exactly what they were doing, and why.
Of course, the West has been bombarded that Putin invaded just out of nowhere just because he's evil. Most of them don't have any idea of whats going on. Because the news, on orders, will not tell them.
Although if Russia actually pulled this during a UN meeting I would've laughed my ass off.
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