Coming Out to Friends as a Transphobe

[Higgs Bonbon]

It's important to open up the conversation with your friends and family by starting with a short monologue on why "transmisic" is the correct term, not "transphobic".

I'm partial to "transodious".

 

[PermaLurker69]

How does age factor into this?

30ish and me and the homies don't like the trans community, simple as. We grew up getting called nigger or faggot for doing things like picking last stand in call of duty. So we were more open with the bantz, and by proxy with how we felt about shit. (no homo)

Id imagine zoomers having a much more difficult time since most 40 + year olds i talk to inevitably come out as transphobic as i get to know them.

 

[RMQualtrough]

Anybody who wouldn't laugh at troon jokes is a beta cuck anyway. Why would you wanna hang with beta cucks?

 

[Airbrushed Van Art]

To express myself with these peers or friends without causing too much drama, I go with the “compassionate” angle.

Sounds wimpy, but hear me out.

When the topic comes up, I say things like “it’s all so tragic when people hate their bodies and identities so much” or “I feel pity for especially the troubled youth going through this; what if they regret it all later? These procedures are permanent”.

If countered that it’s a flawless magical transformation, I’ll shake my head sadly and say “unfortunately it isn’t: there’s a lot of pain and scars, some massive”. Plastic surgery is invasive.

My favourite is “I wish our society more consistently helped people accept who they are and how they were born; self esteem and self hate is an epidemic”.

I’ll also mention things like “why can’t boys be boys but enjoy girly things without medication and surgery? And vice versa? I thought we had grown past that.”

It seems to soften the blow. It isn’t easy to get angry at a person expressing “sadness” over a topic, even though the media has told them to mindlessly scream out in joy with retarded grins how heckin’ valid and YAAAS QUEEEEEN we should be. I’ve seen this take make others stumble a bit.

 

[Terffals]

I tried all the things the poster above me did with their friends, but during the same period of time, a MTF wormed his way into the circle and immediately cast me out as a bigoted, racist transphobe. Not a single other person stood up for me. One of them vague posted “man or sucks when u think u know someone and it turns out they’re a TERF, feels really shitty” and on and on, so I ended up just saying fuck it, yeah fine I AM a TERF, and you’re a man, fuck all of you.

I don’t recommend the nuclear option but there really isn’t any reasoning with them once they’ve been indoctrinated. They have to come out of it themselves like I did.

 

[Hepativore]

I'm partial to "transodious".

I prefer the term " biological realist".

 

[seri0us]

They have to come out of it themselves like I did.

so you guys are chill now? they don't hang out with the male to funeral anymore?

 

[Pedophobe]

"Dump your friends and retreat to the echo chamber" is Reddit-tier thinking.

The trick is to not take up a position unless forced to (friendship isn't a debate club, most people wont demand a formal argument) but just hint and imply and act in a way that's consistent with your values. Let them be the ones to wield the banhammer if they can't handle your non-conforming opinion, not the other way around.

 

[Sperghetti]

After being here and seeing so much shit about the degenerate ugliness of the trans world, it's easy to forget that most people have NO IDEA about what goes on there.

When talking to friends and co-workers, I find that it's best to remember that the majority of people who are trans-supporters are good people who got caught up in a bad trend. Being hostile towards them or leading with amhole pics will only scare them away and make you come off as a hateful wierdo, even though you're right.

This is an excellent point to keep in mind, that a lot of people who casually support this aren’t nearly as familiar with the finer points of the transgender subculture as most of us are here on KF. I think there are a lot of people out there who are still operating under the assumption that this is primarily a “minding your own business and not hurting anyone” thing, unaware of the large subsection of it that is basically the sex pest mafia.

I also think it’s worth noting how many people have mentioned having liberal friends and relatives that agree with them on this issue privately because yeah, if you actually believed in those principles, you should: Transgender ideology is almost a complete reversal of the standpoint most liberals previously held on things like sexuality, gender roles, and feminism.

It’s just that unfortunately, we have this social climate where everyone’s walking on eggshells out of fear that everyone else is a True Believer, because all it takes is one or two True Believers to upend some major area of your life.

 

[Auron]

I have an odd situation where I've always questioned troonism politely and my friends never had an answer - they would tell me not to question it. I always felt like I was missing a piece of the puzzle and didn't understand - until I found some youtube videos (7 years ago or so) and realized they couldn't defend it. They've accepted it on faith and they've been instructed not to debate it.

A lot of my IRL friends are very much brainwashed by troon idelogy, one (possibly two) are actual chasers (one went on about how "ladyboys are hotter than real women"), but then a few will admit it doesn't make any sense when you dangle the logic in front of them - but they were very shy at first to admit that and are still not outwardly gender critical.
I lost one friend - he flat up won't talk to me anymore, calls me "intolerant" etc. We've been friends for over a decade. But the rest of are fine with me. I don't bring it up with them. The majoirty of them don't want to follow logic or reason. Its just a game of group think as far as I can tell (other than for the chasers). I even had to point out to one of them that sex is in fact binary desptie what she may want to think, and her response was "just because thats what science says now doesn't mean it always will be". I guess its not technically wrong, but it is quite farfetched to believe it in this subject area.


There are some people I'm friends with who don't know and I would never want to bring it up with them even when given the perfect oppurtitny to do so because they would just freak out.

 

[Dustlord]

A friend of a friend has come out as transgender. I don't know them very well but they're often around.
I don't really care, but now they're spamming our group chat with tranny stuff from reddit. Out of respect for my friend, I haven't said anything, and my silence on the topic is being taken as support.


Kill me now.

 

[Starscream's Loyalty]

I don't talk to many of my friends, though my circle is small. Most are indifferent/done with this tranny shit. One of then has a tranny in-law, but they're one of the few "good ones" who acknowledge that many have undiagnosed mental health stuff and that kids shouldn't be given the option to lop off anything until they're adults. Guess I can count myself lucky.

 

[SouthernBitchBob]

Trannies are mentally unstable freaks who can't keep their fetishes in their pants. If you're at all perceptive, all it takes is one troon invading your social circle to sniff out the lost causes from the normies. No rose-tinted uninitiated view on troons survives contact with the genuine article.

If you're in a "traditionally" woke subculture (like LGB), you know you've encountered an actual human being if he/she isn't an obnoxious enthusiastic tranny flag-waver. They've already been dunked headfirst in the freak pool. I will tell you that every gay man or lesbian who doesn't proselytize like a methed-up vegan hates troons.

 

[Nonconsentual Pronouns]

If you're in a "traditionally" woke subculture

Yeah, holy shit, try being a moderate/modest goth in this age. Strangers on both sides of the political aisle treat me like I'm wearing some kind of crazy lefty uniform at first and then get a shock when I say something anti-woke. I've had trannies just start talking to me as though they know me just because they assume my politics, and to them, political shit (and degeneracy) is the only identity they know. Conservatives always loosen up and get friendly and talkative after I say something to dispel their eggshell assumption.

It's a black dress, not an antifa flag toga with dangerhair, calm down.

 

[Sun Sucker]

Yeah, holy shit, try being a moderate/modest goth in this age. Strangers on both sides of the political aisle treat me like I'm wearing some kind of crazy lefty uniform at first and then get a shock when I say something anti-woke. I've had trannies just start talking to me as though they know me just because they assume my politics, and to them, political shit (and degeneracy) is the only identity they know. Conservatives always loosen up and get friendly and talkative after I say something to dispel their eggshell assumption.

It's a black dress, not an antifa flag toga with dangerhair, calm down.

Same thing with trying to do LITERALLY ANYTHING related to tabletop gaming online while also being female. No I don't want female representation or LGBTQ+RGB allyship in my game, none of that "makes me feel safe", I don't give a single fuck about your views on women in tabletop gaming; and no my vampire game isn't about fucking tranny Tzimisce characters, you aren't going to play with me if that's what you're interested in. There are plenty of Discord servers dedicated to just that please just go interact with them.

There have been so many people who refused to take the fucking hint even when the first thing I write in my advertisements/ rules section is "NO REAL LIFE POLITICS" in bold, italic letters. I've packed my shit up and left. I only do one on one sessions with a friend now and even though those are lame excuses for a game compared to what I used to do at least I don't have to sort through sheets with dangerhair/ furry characters with a note saying "any pronouns".

Point is though trying to be involved with anything that used to pass as "underground/ niche subculture" today fucking sucks. And I have no idea when trans people started to factor in so much when it comes to anything remotely related, but they have been for a while, and that sucks worse.

 

[Unremarkable Anus Lover]

I guess I got really lucky in that department, the majority of my irl friends started mocking that stuff as soon as it came up and the few people who had been pozzed by universities into thinking they're enlightened authorities on the subject have slowly removed themselves from the group(s) as time went on. That being said I don't live in a major city, I'd assume it's much more of an issue there.

In terms of online friends, I tried to talk some sense into the few people who eventually trooned out. All of them have either distanced themselves and moved to a safe hugbox or ended up killing themselves.

In a way I'm glad things happened this way because it showed me who was worth talking to. I don't even mind mildly woke people that much unless they're spergy about their politics, that's where I cut them off.

 

[Nonconsentual Pronouns]

Same thing with trying to do LITERALLY ANYTHING related to tabletop gaming online while also being female.

That's another boat I'm stuck in. My husband and I really want to host D&D at home again, but the military has people discharging and PCSing all the time and looking for new players is the nightmare you described and so very much more.

I miss it so much. Massive dining table to move out into the big ass living room and I'd get some good, quick food like steaks or burrito fixings prepped for all of us to have a quick-cooked dinner together when we got hungry. Better days when we could banter at the table, debating over who's burrito looks the most like a neovag.

And I have no idea when trans people started to factor in so much when it comes to anything remotely related, but they have been for a while, and that sucks worse.

There were always incels, less incel-like virgin types and general misfits in TG, the pipeline just opened up relatively recently. It was one thing to have to be able to just walk out and/or stop showing up at a local game shop because of a creepy, rude neckbeard, but now they have their trannydom as a shield to try to put that shit on us. I feel like I have to resort to some kind of autistic covert scouting to find other non-woke players IRL without "outing" them or spooking them into thinking they'll be outed as transphobes. I'd like to point out the absolute hypocrisy of this being done to us by the "queer" community.

 

[Sun Sucker]

There were always incels, less incel-like virgin types and general misfits in TG, the pipeline just opened up relatively recently. It was one thing to have to be able to just walk out and/or stop showing up at a local game shop because of a creepy, rude neckbeard, but now they have their trannydom as a shield to try to put that shit on us. I feel like I have to resort to some kind of autistic covert scouting to find other non-woke players IRL without "outing" them or spooking them into thinking they'll be outed as transphobes. I'd like to point out the absolute hypocrisy of this being done to us by the "queer" community.

And you know the funniest fucking thing? It's that they still find a way to come find us even with the countless groups ready to bend to their every desire. I will bet my bottom fucking dollar there are no more than 10 advertisements on roll20 right now that do not advertise being "diverse" or "LGBTQ friendly" out of literal hundreds. I'm convinced this happens because, on a subconscious level, even these people are aware of the fact that their usual way of playing gets boring real fast and they want to do something that's not going to hold their hand and give their nonbinary tabaxi warlock demon-worshipping character asspats for simply existing.

As for the hypocrisy of the situation; that was one thing that used to make me incredibly angry until I realized these people are basically Tyranid sects in real life. They do what they think they're meant to do to protect their raison d’être and don't think beyond it.

 

[Otis Mallebrok]

A friend of a friend has come out as transgender. I don't know them very well but they're often around.
I don't really care, but now they're spamming our group chat with tranny stuff from reddit. Out of respect for my friend, I haven't said anything, and my silence on the topic is being taken as support.


Kill me now.

Ask your friend how many mentally ill crossdressing perverts can fit into a gaschamber at Auschwitz-Birkenau.

 

[Mister Mint]

I don't even consider myself a transphobe, I believe them and the people that enable them have just gone retarded.
You want to be treated with kindness and for me to interact with you as if you're a woman? Sure, fine, I don't care.
But the second it got to "You have to believe I'm a woman!" the rest of us should have said "lol shut up, retard, that isn't even possible, you look like Larry Czonka in a dress." That kind of delusion doesn't make me the one in the wrong, they're the dipshits.