Ukrainian Defensive War against the Russian Invasion - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

Iron Chef Putin vs Head Chef of GULAG Prigozhin

Bang a gong it is on

FUKUI-SAN! IRON CHEF PUTIN HAS FLED KITCHEN STADIUM!
Doc: MAN ALIVE! Do you think he's gonna try to turn this retreat into a soup?
Guest Actress: *watches Putin and Prigozhin grinding up russian soldiers* ewww are they still alive?
Ohto: Fuku san! I was speaking to the challenger about why they must be alive. His response: The fear adds flavor!
 
does this retard really think he can just walk into moscow and give putler the boot? that he can just take a city of millions of people, a city that has been on high military alert for over a year, with a handful of ivans with kalashnikovs?
You'd be surprised. Mussolini took Rome with almost no weapons and just being a threat to the people.

And pro-Russia units weren't really successful in holding Wagner back in the Voronezh region or Lipetsk.

In the end, most of the administrative apparatus is in Moscow and if Prigozhin manages to put himself into the Kremlin, calls himself 'tsar' or 'il presidente' or 'temporary minister of state' and nobody opposes him or he kills whoever does, he will be the new guy.
 
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Z-tard cope seems to now be that once Putin is gone, Russia will have effective leadership and THEN the gloves will come off !!!

What absolute nonsense. Purging your high command and most of the political structure in a coup during a war is suicide. That new Putinless Russian government will not just drop all their grievances, sing kumbayaa and be more united than ever.

It will be absolute chaos. Putin's one redeeming quality was that he kept all these competing interests from killing each other and at least on some level working towards some common goal. Without him there will be a power-vacuum, which won't be easy nor quick to fill.

Post-coup governments aren't known for their stability and the ability to run things with cohesion. It will take time before the new order of things is found and things get rolling again. At this point no matter what happens from here on out with this coup, Ukraine will be fighting against a rudderless enemy that will be too busy figuring out their new power hierarchies to focus on any kind of a external war.
 
it's a million people who really don't want to die over some dumb shit though
slavs have never given a fuck about civilian casualties, both sides view them as obstacles at worst and meat shields at best.
why the fuck are they letting them get this far? are they just waiting for them to get closer so they can drive their hopes up? if putin really just lets them walk into moscow and lets them have their way with their retarded third-world africa-tier strategy (MARCH STRAIGHT TO CAPITAL AND BITCHSLAP PRESIDENT), then i will take back every pro-russia word i have ever said about this conflict. putin and russia will become the lolcow of nations and will keep that title for a very long time.
 
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Bridge moved so Wagner couldn't advance further to Moscow
 

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Prediction:
Prigozhin pulls a Jan 6th. Marches his guys into the Kremlin, traipses around ineffectually, and then quietly withdraws because they have no idea what to do and everyone gets arrested.
Unlikely. Jan 6th was done by a bunch of confused boomers, schizo catboys and fed instigators. Attack on Moscow is done by a bunch of tough-as-nails, well trained, well armed and well organized mercenaries and ex-cons.

Prigozhin is bad news though, it doesn't seem he has any intent to stop this war, if he gets his way, we might end up with general mobilization and even more ruthless crackdown on dissent
He's already blaming Shoigu for starting the war for personal gains.
 
Z-tard cope seems to now be that once Putin is gone, Russia will have effective leadership and THEN the gloves will come off !!!

What absolute nonsense. Purging your high command and most of the political structure in a coup during a war is suicide. That new Putinless Russian government will not just drop all their grievances, sing kumbayaa and be more united than ever.

It will be absolute chaos. Putin's one redeeming quality was that he kept all these competing interests from killing each other and at least on some level working towards some common goal. Without him there will be a power-vacuum, which won't be easy nor quick to fill.

Post-coup governments aren't known for their stability and the ability to run things with cohesion. It will take time before the new order of things is found and things get rolling again. At this point no matter what happens from here on out with this coup, Ukraine will be fighting against a rudderless enemy that will be too busy figuring out their new power hierarchies to focus on any kind of a external war.
It WILL cause the most of the world to shit its pants though. A destabilized nation with nuclear weapons is a really fucking bad combination. Especially when a sizeable chunk of the population of that nation supports their use during an offensive operation that is going smoothly no setbacks whatsoever. The west may want a weak Russia, but they want a stable, weak Russia.
 
The question is: will the ordinary people actually do something? The situation in Russia isn't that much different than in the west, the average citizen behaves like an NPC. They never question any of the information they're feeded. They probably will just sit on their chairs, drink vodka while watching TV and never want to lift a finger as long as they can do the same thing the next day.
Don't expect the civilians to do anything. As much as the US glorifies a common man uprising against the government, it is when the army rebels that an uprising has a good chance of succeeding. The events of the rebellion in Romainia follows this.
 
It's time for my run, can't wait to see the Moscow Oblast news when I return.
Meanwhile, my favorite Top Jew Glenn has been... silent.
LMAO

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"Even the MOD admits Russia is struggling" - title that you won't see on mega-uber-progressive totally not vatnik afficionados Grayzone and Glenn and so many other misguided Westerners.
Maybe worth watching Karlin's account for a more pro-Russian view, we want to be informed correctly and from multiple perspectives.
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Z-tard cope seems to now be that once Putin is gone, Russia will have effective leadership and THEN the gloves will come off !!!

What absolute nonsense. Purging your high command and most of the political structure in a coup during a war is suicide. That new Putinless Russian government will not just drop all their grievances, sing kumbayaa and be more united than ever.

It will be absolute chaos. Putin's one redeeming quality was that he kept all these competing interests from killing each other and at least on some level working towards some common goal. Without him there will be a power-vacuum, which won't be easy nor quick to fill.

Post-coup governments aren't known for their stability and the ability to run things with cohesion. It will take time before the new order of things is found and things get rolling again. At this point no matter what happens from here on out with this coup, Ukraine will be fighting against a rudderless enemy that will be too busy figuring out their new power hierarchies to focus on any kind of a external war.
Light disagree.

Putin ruled over Russia as one, yes, but his rulership was built on exploiting the country and filling oligarch pockets.

With a leadership change, it may be that all the confusion, corruption and differences are set aside for one goal for the russian people: Winning the Ukraine war. That could be dangerous for Ukraine and the world.

If it instead swaps into Russia being exploited to fill different oligarch's pockets then sure. The war will go on, albeit with internal power struggles and confusion.
 
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It WILL cause the most of the world to shit its pants though. A destabilized nation with nuclear weapons is a really fucking bad combination. Especially when a sizeable chunk of the population of that nation supports their use during an offensive operation that is going smoothly no setbacks whatsoever. The west may want a weak Russia, but they want a stable, weak Russia.
Well if you want your nation stable, don't fucking invade your neighbors, war is the top destabilizing factor. The West wants that, but they cannot force stability in Russia, cause they have been behaving like niggers lately and the population is too fucking asleep to fix their government's lunatic behavior. So now we get chaos, and we'll see if there's some entity able to bring back order to it.
 
Well, I'm sure Prighozin's counterattack will drive the invaders back from the capital.

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Big if true. "Tactical considerations" is code for "We were planning on shit going down elsewhere." Regardless, even if they haven't been in the kitchen with Chef cooking up a coup, the 2014 borders look to be outside Russia's ability to keep guaranteed claims on, even if the war were to end immediately.
>Russia performing badly in a war
>Starts an armed revolution halfway through
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If I had a nickel for every time Russia imploded after a war went badly, I'd have two nickels.

Apologies for the lack of my usual order and separation of shitpost and news. Things are chaotic with the Devil's Grandmother at work in Russia right now.
 
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