Baldur's Gate III Announced - ...and it's coming to Google Stadia and PC

[PaladinBoo]

Another thing I wanted to bring up to. @Mega Black stated that the early trailers made it appear that the game was going to take on a more dark and serious tone mixed in with some creepy body horror. However, I'm inclined to believe that after Larian gave a presentation to WotC after 2019, WotC probably told them; "Umm... Could you like tone down the how dark and serious the game is? Our audience doesn't like things being too dark and serious. Instead make the game more quirky and funny! Like a Guardians of the Galaxy movie."
One must remember that the last serious campaign module that WotC released for D&D was Descent into Avernus and that was in 2019. After that it has all just been pandering bullcrap with magic academies, romance, dating, proms, coffee shops and campaigns that take place in peaceful worlds where there is no conflict or seriousness. In short, WotC modern campaigns feels like a Steven Universe episode. I have a feeling that this game is going to suffer a major case of "conflict of visions". In many parts of the game we will probably see Larian's original vision seep through into the game and in other instances it will be clear that this was WotC vision. I'm curious to see the cut content mods that will be inevitable on the Nexus and seeing what was Larian's original vision for this game before WotC decided to meddle with it.

 

[Cheeseknife]

I completely agree that its pointless to give BG3 a chance, from what ive seen from larian they are completely focusing on shitty romance and sex stuff, ive heard more about sex and dicks from them than anything about gameplay. The few things they mentioned about the actual gameplay ive seen have been them making the level cap twelve and them trying to make it so you cant even build the way you want.

See, I feel like they took way too many pointers from the people who just wanted their favorite game devs to deliver them pornography to appease. And, that's exactly what they did, but they forgot, "Oh, we need to make this meaningful and sheit" and failed.

That'll be BG3 in a nutshell. Quote me on this. I won't be wrong.

In many parts of the game we will probably see Larian's original vision seep through into the game and in other instances it will be clear that this was WotC vision. I'm curious to see the cut content mods that will inevitable on the Nexus and seeing what was Larian's original vision for this game before WotC decided to meddle with it.

This is being far too generous. I respect where you are coming from on this, Boo, but...come on. These people never had an "original vision." It was always going to be shit. I've seen enough promotional material to convince me the devs haven't a clue as to tie their own shoes.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

I was excited when I watched the trailer with the Mindflayers and now I'm so fucking disgusted. Congrats Larian, you perverted degenerates. Not only do I not want to play this game, I'm repulsed by it.

Making a non perverted Baldur's Gate is impossible in the 2020s. It has to be Balldo's Gate instead.

 

[Fields Of Rye]

Another thing I wanted to bring up to. @Mega Black stated that the early trailers made it appear that the game was going to take on a more dark and serious tone mixed in with some creepy body horror. However, I'm inclined to believe that after Larian gave a presentation to WotC after 2019, WotC probably told them; "Umm... Could you like tone down the how dark and serious the game is? Our audience doesn't like things being too dark and serious. Instead make the game more quirky and funny! Like a Guardians of the Galaxy movie."
One must remember that the last serious campaign module that WotC released for D&D was Descent into Avernus and that was in 2019. After that it has all just been pandering bullcrap with magic academies, romance, dating, proms, coffee shops and campaigns that take place in peaceful worlds where there is no conflict or seriousness. In short, WotC modern campaigns feels like a Steven Universe episode. I have a feeling that this game is going to suffer a major case of "conflict of visions". In many parts of the game we will probably see Larian's original vision seep through into the game and in other instances it will be clear that this was WotC vision. I'm curious to see the cut content mods that will be inevitable on the Nexus and seeing what was Larian's original vision for this game before WotC decided to meddle with it.

The worst part is that some of the best campaigns I’ve run have been with grad students about grad school. Wizards took one of the easiest to adapt, easiest to progress via RP, most relatable campaign prospects and turned it flaccid and gay.

It’s like they watched the parts of Harry Potter that are eating frogs on a train and forget the parts where the giant racist snake tulsa killed all the Nuggles and the students had to figure out how to kill it

 

[SIMIΔN]

It's not the subject matter itself that is the problem, it's how it is crudely transplanted from 2023 Seattle to Medieval-like setting.

Take this tragic scene from the Witcher, perhaps the best RPG I've ever enjoyed.

 

[PaladinBoo]

The worst part is that some of the best campaigns I’ve run have been with grad students about grad school. Wizards took one of the easiest to adapt, easiest to progress via RP, most relatable campaign prospects and turned it flaccid and gay.

It’s like they watched the parts of Harry Potter that are eating frogs on a train and forget the parts where the giant racist snake tulsa killed all the Nuggles and the students had to figure out how to kill it

Part of what makes people like the magical school setting is the conflict and mystery. That was why Harry Potter became so beloved as it is because those books were filled with conflict and mystery. WotC can not understand the real reason why people like the magical school setting due to the fact that they are untalented hacks who are drunk on the woke Kool-Aid. Instead they make the magical school setting be wish fulfillment for what they wished their high school years was like. That is why Strixhaven was filled to the brim with romances, dating, proms, queerness, coffee shops and what not with little to no conflict or mystery.

 

[Snekposter]

It's not the subject matter itself that is the problem, it's how it is crudely transplanted from 2023 Seattle to Medieval-like setting.

Take this tragic scene from the Witcher, perhaps the best RPG I've ever enjoyed.

The best part is that when the lord went to Hovel to ask everyone to please come back and work his lands again a woman mocked his dead gay son, so he killed everyone and burned the place down.

 

[Cheeseknife]

Part of what makes people like the magical school setting is the conflict and mystery. That was why Harry Potter became so beloved as it is because those books were filled with conflict and mystery. WotC can not understand the real reason why people like the magical school setting due to the fact that they are untalented hacks who are drunk on the woke Kool-Aid. Instead they make the magical school setting be wish fulfillment for what they wished their high school years was like. That is why Strixhaven was filled to the brim with romances, dating, proms, queerness, coffee shops and what not with little to no conflict or mystery.

I can't remember where I read it, but one of the reasons Harry Potter stuck out as exceptional was because the main cast of characters didn't like each other. They didn't get along. When you talk about conflict, that's what people don't understand is that even the main characters were often in conflict with each other. But that's what made them exceptional. They were friends, through and through, because they had a willingness to sharpen and be sharpened by one another.

This is kind of development is completely lost to today's faggot and tranny culture. They look at any attempt to improve or build one's character as an attack or affront.

Regarding Baldur's Gate 2, this is why a lot of fans loved Viconia DeVir. She was Tsundere--she was a Drow who had fallen in love with the Bhaalspawn even though she would often fight against him in the field of beliefs and values. Amazingly, the devs even allowed you to shift her alignment from Neutral Evil to Neutral Good after several instances of dialogue. That same spirit of romance seems to echo through Hordes of the Underdark and even Mask of the Betrayer in Neverwinter Nights and Neverwinter Nights 2.

Baldur's Gate 3, in the other hand, seems to give you all the sex but none of the romance. None of the meaningful struggle. You're not going to romance Lae'zel on the back of challenging her Githyanki beliefs and customs and showing how your own morals are superior to hers. It's all going to be about submission to the whims of her warrior race antics that'll get you into her pants.

 

[PaladinBoo]

I can't remember where I read it, but one of the reasons Harry Potter stuck out as exceptional was because the main cast of characters didn't like each other. They didn't get along. When you talk about conflict, that's what people don't understand is that even the main characters were often in conflict with each other. But that's what made them exceptional. They were friends, through and through, because they had a willingness to sharpen and be sharpened by one another.

This is kind of development is completely lost to today's faggot and tranny culture. They look at any attempt to improve or build one's character as an attack or affront.

You have to understand that, like many other post-modernists, WotC hates the Hero's Journey. The Hero's Journey requires that you self-reflect and improve yourself as a person. It is about the death of the old you and the rebirth of a new and better you. A hero. However, many post-modern writers, like the ones who work at WotC, hate this. Since all they do is self-insert they believe that their characters (who are more or less a reflection of themselves) shouldn't change. They are perfect just the way they are. It is the world that should change for them and bask in their awesome and perfect glory. This is why entertainment has massively stagnated over the past decade. The petulant narcissism and inability to self-reflect and improve oneself mixed with a hatred of the Hero's Journey that many writers have today has nearly destroyed storytelling. To think they have the gall to complain about getting replaced by AI and also complain about the populace lack of compassion for their plight. They brought this misery on themselves.

 

[Cheeseknife]

You have to understand that, like many other post-modernists, WotC hates the Hero's Journey. The Hero's Journey requires that you self-reflect and improve yourself as a person. It is about the death of the old you and the rebirth of new and better you. A hero. However, many post-modern writers, like the ones who work at WotC, hate this. Since all they do is self-insert they believe that their characters (who are more or less a reflection of themselves) shouldn't change. They are perfect just the way they are. It is the world that should change for them and bask in their awesome and perfect glory. This is why entertainment has massively stagnated over the past decade. The petulant narcissism and inability to self-reflect and improve oneself mixed with a hatred of the Hero's Journey that many writers have today has nearly destroyed storytelling. To think they have the gall to complain about getting replaced by AI and also complain about the populace lack of compassion for their plight. They brought this misery on themselves.

A great read is The Chronicles of Prydain by Lloyd Alexander. His works are what Disney's The Black Cauldron are based. The book that sticks with me to this day is the fourth in the series, Taran Wanderer which somewhat deconstructs but then reconstructs the Hero's Journey.

Alexander's series are one of a couple I believe should be required reading and inspiration for modern storytelling in the realm of fantasy.

 

[PaladinBoo]

This is being far too generous. I respect where you are coming from on this, Boo, but...come on. These people never had an "original vision." It was always going to be shit. I've seen enough promotional material to convince me the devs haven't a clue as to tie their own shoes.

To be fair I am giving Larian the benefit of a doubt due to the fact that WotC was voted as the "most ESG and DEI compliant company in the world" by BlackRock. That should tell you everything you need to know about WotC and the creative direction they were going to make Baldur's Gate 3 take. Even if Larian wanted to make a true successor for Baldur's Gate WotC wouldn't have let them. WotC is what many would call "true believers" of Larry Fink's ideology. They, alongside Disney, will be the last company to change once ESG and woke shit gets flushed down the toilet. All while kicking and screaming over it.
Lets say that Larian, at one point in time, did wanted to create a Baldur's Gate game that fans would love. WotC wouldn't have let them. WotC employees want Larian to make a game for them, not the fans. I believe this due to the weird LGBTQ+ sex shit in the game. D&D products since the start of 5e have been full of weird and creepy LGBTQ+ sex shit in their modules. You have to understand that the LGBTQ+ community in Seattle is uber degenerate and may even give San Francisco and LA a run for its money. Is it any wonder that the LGBTQ+ employees in WotC would be demanding Larian to add in a bunch of degenerate shit in the game in order to feel "represented"? Because everything I see of the weird sex stuff that Larian is adding to Baldur's Gate 3 feels like the type of shit that the LGBTQ+ community in Seattle would be demanding a video game to have.

 

[Male Idiot]

At least the drow girl looks... not totally butt ugly, which is a win in and of itself.

If you want me to turn into a coomer, at least give me pretty waifus, not the ugly man faced things nowdays coming out of the west.

 

[Cheeseknife]

the early trailers made it appear that the game was going to take on a more dark and serious tone mixed in with some creepy body horror.

Something I wanted to mention here is that body horror is horribly (no pun intended) overdone nowadays. Maybe it's just a result of my being subscribed to Alpha Beta Gamer, but there's a widespread obsession with body horror that is resulting in a good number of games that constantly push these environs that look like a colonoscopy.

I remember when games like System Shock 2 were actually able to shock (no pun intended) their audiences with levels like the Body of the Many, but when you start to see that shit show up in every game, the whole idea of traversing walls of meat loses its flavor (again, no pun intended).

All of this is to say, body horror just doesn't hit as hard as it used to. Or maybe it's because I've lived long enough to see pictures of my own insides on visits to the doctors that it just doesn't hit as hard as it used to.

 

[White Devil]

Something I wanted to mention here is that body horror is horribly (no pun intended) overdone nowadays.

When you see trannies openly in the streets now, it's hard for video games to shock you.

 

[Cheeseknife]

When you see trannies openly in the streets now, it's hard for video games to shock you.

There's a limit to how hard you can desensitize someone. That's a good thing. Trannies are try-hards, they really need to scratch that erotic itch, but there's only so far human biology and psychology can be pushed before your brain and body tell you, "Bruh, this ain't it."

It's a God-given mercy that we have these limitations because it means all this open tranny shit has a rapid expiration date, just as trannies do themselves.

 

[Estate]

All the people being black pilled about the game, I get it. Seeing news about bear sex, dick customization, faggoty shit, pronouns and whatnot is enough to bring your enthusiasm down.
But, remember that all this is probably WotC influence and some Marketing scheme to drum up controversy and gain notoriety.
I've played the Early Access and I honestly see the sparkling of the diamond, even if said diamond has traces of dogshit here and there.
This game will be on GoG, which means it's easy as shit to pirate (no dealing with tranny Empress). So, when it comes out, everyone can check it out, without needing to spend your shekels, and better and more informed opinions can be made then.

 

[Kulee Baba]

All the people being black pilled about the game, I get it. Seeing news about bear sex, dick customization, faggoty shit, pronouns and whatnot is enough to bring your enthusiasm down.
But, remember that all this is probably WotC influence and some Marketing scheme to drum up controversy and gain notoriety.
I've played the Early Access and I honestly see the sparkling of the diamond, even if said diamond has traces of dogshit here and there.
This game will be on GoG, which means it's easy as shit to pirate (no dealing with tranny Empress). So, when it comes out, everyone can check it out, without needing to spend your shekels, and better and more informed opinions can be made then.

Yep pretty much agree with you 1:1.

And I've beem defending bear sex, because it is just joke content that no players have to witness unless they explicitly seek it. The genital slider though ugh that shit was cringey to me in Cyberpunk 2077 and it's cringe on this. They should just let coomer modders do their thing like they did with Skyrim and every modern TES game.

 

[Fag Albert]

i got high hopes for this game now fellas i feel inserted

 

[Kane Lives]

All I know is that their marketing has been focused on degeneracy, and it has validated my decision to wait for others to play it for me first. If I wanted a full degenerate D&D game, I'd just load up Skyrim with Loverslab's mods.

I might still snag a yohoho copy just to see how bad it is upfront though.

 

[PaladinBoo]

But, remember that all this is probably WotC influence and some Marketing scheme to drum up controversy and gain notoriety.

I wouldn't be surprised if WotC is the one behind the degenerate marketing in order to persuade the people who they consider "undesirable" to not play their game. Remember, this is the company that stated that white people and conservatives "can't leave the hobby fast enough".

I've played the Early Access and I honestly see the sparkling of the diamond, even if said diamond has traces of dogshit here and there.

I imagine that dogshit on the diamond is from WotC. In all seriousness I do pity Larian and have sympathy for them with having to interact and deal with the WotC creative department. I deal with these people everyday living in the Pacific Northwest. It isn't something I wish on my worst enemies.