💪 Tough Guys Patrick Sean Tomlinson / @stealthygeek / "Torque Wheeler" / @RealAutomanic / Kempesh / Padawan v2.5 - "Conservative" sci-fi author with TDS, armed "drunk with anger management issues" and terminated parental rights, actual tough guy, obese, paid Quasi, paid thousands to be repeatedly unbanned from Twitter

[AnOminous]

Pat and Niki both claim they did not know that losing and being forced to pay costs was even a possibility, which really underscores how supremely overconfident Rick is.

Then either Pat is lying or he had incompetent, bungling attorneys who committed malpractice, because that is basic shit. It's all but automatic to shift fees to the loser of a discovery dispute. Goes to show what a complete ignoramus this guy is.

Pat continuing to deny payment of the debt, and his bullheadedness when he claims that he's going to court on August 24th to tell his side of the story, like he didn't learn that doesn't work from the Andrew Nadolski case, is just insane.

If he starts tard babbling and trying to challenge the validity of the judgment, the judge is basically just going to point out here's the judgment from a California court of competent jurisdiction, you waived your appeal, pay up fatty.

He might not immediately get found in contempt if he manages to contain his retardation at least for the length of the hearing but if he starts chimping he could actually end up in jail. I do remember at the previous Nadolski hearing he more or less did sit down and shut up while on the verge of childing the judge. Remember, he's belligerent and stupid, but he's also a giant pussy.

 

[MavisBeaconTeachesSnipin]

Then either Pat is lying or he had incompetent, bungling attorneys who committed malpractice, because that is basic shit. It's all but automatic to shift fees to the loser of a discovery dispute. Goes to show what a complete ignoramus this guy is.

pat must think the judge is going to be a journalist who overlooks every specific detail of his case if he calls the other guy a nazi.

 

[I'mThePatMan!]

I have clipped the relevant portion where he speaks with Pat and Niki. This is very worth a listen, it's only 4 minutes long and it's Pat at some of his most retarded. The conversation is mostly Pat but Niki chimes in occasionally. Pat continuing to deny payment of the debt, and his bullheadedness when he claims that he's going to court on August 24th to tell his side of the story, like he didn't learn that doesn't work from the Andrew Nadolski case, is just insane. If I didn't see Pat with my own eyes I wouldn't believe he's real.

Can anyone post a local copy? I've tried doing it unsuccessfully 3 timed now, the format wasn't accepted for some reason.
This interview might be the most damage Pat has ever done to his own case. It's just that good, and it needs to be preserved.

As Indy would say: "It belongs in a museum!"

 

[HodgePodgeRogerDodger]

I do want to know if the Pests journalist listened to the Andrew Court Case tapes to hear how retarded Pat is.

That entire case is basically concentrated essence of Fatrick getting Internet bullied and crying about it. His mouth is writing checks that his ass can’t cash and he does it every fucking time someone calls him a faggot with bitch tits.
He’s a sped in middle school who starts a fight when you call him fat or stupid.

That case and doing a brief search of his twitter and realize that he’s never tried staying quiet should let you know that Patrick is a fat blowhard with an unearned ego.

 

[Procrastinhater]

Then either Pat is lying or he had incompetent, bungling attorneys who committed malpractice, because that is basic shit. It's all but automatic to shift fees to the loser of a discovery dispute. Goes to show what a complete ignoramus this guy is.

If he starts tard babbling and trying to challenge the validity of the judgment, the judge is basically just going to point out here's the judgment from a California court of competent jurisdiction, you waived your appeal, pay up fatty.

He might not immediately get found in contempt if he manages to contain his retardation at least for the length of the hearing but if he starts chimping he could actually end up in jail. I do remember at the previous Nadolski hearing he more or less did sit down and shut up while on the verge of childing the judge. Remember, he's belligerent and stupid, but he's also a giant pussy.

I think its gonna come down to wether Pat's snivelling cowardice outweighs his urge to be a sanctimonious stubborn prick.
The thought of enjoying prison might keep him sullenly silent, but if he's dumb enough to antagonize the Judge, either by flat out refusing to pay, or being an obstinate pedantic asshole over something minor, he might not be able to help himself.
He's not very bright, and he's the sort of pugnacious dumb fucking retard that it's very easy to hate after listening to him for only a few minutes.
If he's smart he'll keep his fat mouth shut and let his lawyer talk, but if he was smart, he wouldn't have let his mouth talk him into owing his trolls tens of thousands of dollars.

 

[I'mThePatMan!]

If he's smart

Ima stop you right there buddy.

 

[Procrastinhater]

Ima stop you right there buddy.

Yeah in hindsight I can see there's likely to be an issue here.

 

[lindsayfan]

He says he's "been fighting" the original judgement but I don't think he's actually done anything.

he has been angrily xeeting, which is what people like him think fighting is

 

[Procrastinhater]

Seriously though, any idea what it is that's wrong with him?
How does someone end up like Fat?
Is it genetic?
Mercury in the water?
Did his mom drink too much while she was pregnant?
An Uncle got too handsy?
How the fuck does a Pat happen?
We should figure it out so we can know how to prevent it in future.

 

[FinnSven]

Who goes through all the effort of starting a lawsuit without knowing you can:

1 - Lose
2 - Appeal

I've never been anywhere near a lawsuit but I knew those things by the time I was about 10 just by watching the news. That's like driving a car and not knowing that you could crash it, or use the brakes.

People like Pat think that starting a lawsuit is a a way of just getting a company to give you a big payout or forcing someone to comply with your demand.
They don’t seem to understand that even if you have a case you still have to provide evidence and of course for it to be a case in the first place it has to be within the law.

He would know that if he checked into the rules of privacy and relevant information.
Unless it’s life and death or a governmental decision, private companies and individuals don’t have to simply divulge private information.

Assuming a bunch of people on a forum who laugh at his tweets and other publicly available information he willingly made viewable to anyone with a internet capable device can just have their ip addresses divulged really shows how seriously he takes himself.

I doubt even the president could get that achieved, provided they were not making any credible threats.

Anyway, he is of the ilk who hear that “most of the time” companies just pay people off rather than take it to court, so he probably thought that Quasi would just “hear the knock” and fall in line.
The fact that he wasted so much money on reinstating his twitter account shows that he really thinks the law is how to get what he wants.

The twitter thing took time, but he “won” in the end. He is probably thinking that all he has to do is tough it out and the courts will side with him.

Next time he should take his case to a no win no fee lawyer.
Who will tell him straight away, don’t do this, it will be hard to win, you will probably loose and then you will have a fee.
It’s not like slipping on puke in a Macdonald’s or tripping over a paving slab. Large companies and councils have insurance and on staff lawyers who will just dazzle the ambulance chaser with a figure and job done, “win”.

I doubt Quasi had fat retard fee fees hurt insurance.

 

[Mussolini’s Merkin]

I think its gonna come down to wether Pat's snivelling cowardice outweighs his urge to be a sanctimonious stubborn prick.
The thought of enjoying prison might keep him sullenly silent, but if he's dumb enough to antagonize the Judge, either by flat out refusing to pay, or being an obstinate pedantic asshole over something minor, he might not be able to help himself.
He's not very bright, and he's the sort of pugnacious dumb fucking retard that it's very easy to hate after listening to him for only a few minutes.
If he's smart he'll keep his fat mouth shut and let his lawyer talk, but if he was smart, he wouldn't have let his mouth talk him into owing his trolls tens of thousands of dollars.

Seeing as the only thing we have to work with is the Nadalski case, I am expecting it to be a shitshow.
Pat couldn't resist chiding Nadalski and got admonished by the judge.
That was two years ago (I think?) and Pat has just got more delusional and unhinged since then. I expect theatrics of the highest caliber.
Do we know if he has even retained a lawyer? I think I remember reading that he stiffed his lawyer from the debt hearing.

 

[Pat Fried Rice]

Seeing as the only thing we have to work with is the Nadalski case, I am expecting it to be a shitshow.
Pat couldn't resist chiding Nadalski and got admonished by the judge.
That was two years ago (I think?) and Pat has just got more delusional and unhinged since then. I expect theatrics of the highest caliber.
Do we know if he has even retained a lawyer? I think I remember reading that he stiffed his lawyer from the debt hearing.

I think he's pro se, which makes this all the more hilarious. I can't wait for the meltdown when he realizes the judge doesn't give a fuck about his porcine plights, he wants to know why he hasn't paid. I'd be willing to wager Pat tries to say the Pests and/or KF have interfered in the proceedings, I'm sure the Court will love that

 

[FinnSven]

Seeing as the only thing we have to work with is the Nadalski case, I am expecting it to be a shitshow.
Pat couldn't resist chiding Nadalski and got admonished by the judge.
That was two years ago (I think?) and Pat has just got more delusional and unhinged since then. I expect theatrics of the highest caliber.
Do we know if he has even retained a lawyer? I think I remember reading that he stiffed his lawyer from the debt hearing.

There is a lot of speculation about Fatrick and lawyers, but nothing to my knowledge that he sought representation himself.

There is a belief that Niki or family paid or retained a lawyer but I am not certain if they did or if Fatrick just filed all the paperwork himself.

Maybe the SFWA had a lawyer or something on staff or an ambulance chaser they use regularly, but I haven’t seen anything about that specifically.

If Fatrick had retained a lawyer then the pests or Dan would have found out and doxxed the lawyer by now.
The certainly would have sent the lawyer information about pepperoni businesses and such.

It would also fit with Fatrick’s self belief that he doesn’t need a lawyer due to his incredible mind.

 

[Rick's Beef Wellington]

Seriously though, any idea what it is that's wrong with him?
How does someone end up like Fat?
Is it genetic?
Mercury in the water?
Did his mom drink too much while she was pregnant?
An Uncle got too handsy?
How the fuck does a Pat happen?
We should figure it out so we can know how to prevent it in future.

After years of Pigspotting, here's my assessment:

- Oppositional Defiant Disorder as a child ( , child) that was covered up and excused for by his school therapist mother - ODD is genetic, so it was most likely from his...

- Gay rodeo clown father who was most likely bouncing between rageful outbursts and being a subserviant drunk to his wife as the model for masculinity, meaning Pigsley turns to pop culture bullshit to define his own masculinity

- His mother wants his life to be better/easier than his father's so he's pushed through high school with his coddling mother telling him he's brilliant despite his 1.7 GPA and he's laughed out of community college in the first semester because he doesn't have his mother to cover for her child, child

- ODD becomes Antisocial Personality Disorder in adulthood which makes you feel like it's totally cool to threaten to kill the mother of your child and the baby, and wait until the baby's born to do it, when you work for her parents' company in a job where the only way you'd lose the job is to threaten to kill the owner's daughter

- It also makes you unable to see your role in your own messy life, makes you need to win every argument no matter how trivial, and be irritating to everyone because it's the only way you know how to get attention

It's doing the absolute opposite of correcting lineal patterns to overcome intergenerational trauma. He's leaning into the worst inclinations of his parents instead of reconciling what their shortcomings or well-intentioned attempts to help him really ended up doing to him. He's the Danny DeVito to his sniper action hero cousin Jake Raven's Arnold if we're using the Twins analogy.

 

[Spunt]

There is a lot of speculation about Fatrick and lawyers, but nothing to my knowledge that he sought representation himself.

There is a belief that Niki or family paid or retained a lawyer but I am not certain if they did or if Fatrick just filed all the paperwork himself.

Maybe the SFWA had a lawyer or something on staff or an ambulance chaser they use regularly, but I haven’t seen anything about that specifically.

If Fatrick had retained a lawyer then the pests or Dan would have found out and doxxed the lawyer by now.
The certainly would have sent the lawyer information about pepperoni businesses and such.

It would also fit with Fatrick’s self belief that he doesn’t need a lawyer due to his incredible mind.

If he didn't have a lawyer then what did the SFWA's $100,000 pay for? It was clearly all gone by the end if he ended up $30k in the hole.

 

[Plaintiff is fat]

The "we weren't informed about our right to appeal" lie shows he'd rather be seen as a fat retard than admit the lolsuit had no merit and there were no grounds to appeal the rulings.

Simultaneously Pat shifts blame to the lawyers. Mama Raven's special boy didn't make any mistake, it's Resto who steps on rakes landmines. This is a first AFAIK, he always blamed the judges.

 

[MavisBeaconTeachesSnipin]

so he probably thought that Quasi would just “hear the knock” and fall in line.

people shouldn't forget that pat's intention with discovery was only about doxing forum members, not a broader lawsuit. maybe someone else has the exact tweets but he made comments multiple times saying as much.

Simultaneously Pat shifts blame to the lawyers.

I am in no way defending pat, but I think brian resto wanted to scam pat out of money. I cannot think of another reason why he would take on such an unfocused and incoherent lawsuit.

 

[Procrastinhater]

here's my assessment:

That seems like a pretty accurate description of the spiders nest of neuroses and bad diet that adds up to a Pat.
I'll credit you for it, it almost makes up for reminding me of Pats Christmas Beef Wellington (unless he's made more than one) right before I went for dinner.
I'm suddenly not that hungry for some reason.

 

[FinnSven]

If he didn't have a lawyer then what did the SFWA's $100,000 pay for? It was clearly all gone by the end if he ended up $30k in the hole.

Well that will be it, the 100k went on an SFWA lawyer, whom Fatrick couldn’t afford alone and after he didn’t get his wanted outcome he used others or none at all.

Edit. I am going to check Fatrick’s encyclopedia dramatica page. I doubt it’s definitive and probably not the most accurate, but at least it collates information and perhaps can name or point to his legal representation.

There should really be a kiwi-wiki as digging through threads is time consuming.

 

[FinnSven]

He's the Danny DeVito to his sniper action hero cousin Jake Raven's Arnold if we're using the Twins analogy.

That’s unfair.

The Danny DeVito character was the way he was because due to being unexpected, he was ditched in an orphanage and had to raise himself, with no parents, moral guidance or love.

He became an arguably better person once Arnold gave him the loyalty and love of a family member he craved for.

Patrick grew up with a family, screwed as it is, but due to being a terrible unlovable person not even affection from everybody’s favorite Austrian could fill his empty heart.