Patrick Sean Tomlinson / @stealthygeek / "Torque Wheeler" / @RealAutomanic / Kempesh / Padawan v2.5 - "Conservative" sci-fi author with TDS, armed "drunk with anger management issues" and terminated parental rights, actual tough guy, obese, paid Quasi, paid thousands to be repeatedly unbanned from Twitter

[Piggle Rick]

So maybe one of you law nerds can explain, but in ep 4 of that podcast pat confirmed that they both refuse to pay off the debt meaning pat might or will to to jail for being in contempt. Is Niki not also at risk of going to jail for the same thing? Aren't both of them considered the debtors to quasi or does that only apply to pat?

Not a lawyer but it was Piggy who was ordered to go to the debtors exam. I don’t think Nikki has any problem except if there is truly a lien on their property.

 

[AnOminous]

So maybe one of you law nerds can explain, but in ep 4 of that podcast pat confirmed that they both refuse to pay off the debt meaning pat might or will to to jail for being in contempt. Is Niki not also at risk of going to jail for the same thing? Aren't both of them considered the debtors to quasi or does that only apply to pat?

Yes, she is also liable for the debt, or her fair part of it, even if she escapes the community property status of being sodomized by a pig by divorcing his fat ass. But if she shows up and starts lipping off, she's just as subject to contempt for disrupting the proceedings.

That would be the most ridiculous sovcit-level bullshit for these two, for Pat to skip (when he is the dude who is supposed to show up) and Nikki showing up instead and spouting white trash nonsense at the judge.

 

[An automatic clown]

Not a lawyer but it was Piggy who was ordered to go to the debtors exam. I don’t think Nikki has any problem except if there is truly a lien on their property.

I saw some pests say WI is a community property state so that means they're both on the hook. I'm sure some law fag can explain

Edit: sniped

 

[ShinyStar]

Since the contempt is against Fatrick, I don't think Nikki can appear in his stead. The only person that could appear for him would be counsel.

Correct me if my understanding is incorrect, law fag Kiwi's.

I'm quite certain that Niki can't show up for Patrick. Pat has to answer the judges questions, and if Niki tried to answer on his behalf, that would be hearsay and inadmissible in court. Quasi's lawyers also probably have the right to ask questions, and again, Niki can only answer for herself. Even if Niki were included in the order, Pat would still have to be there himself. I also don't believe Pat's lawyers can simply appear for him. This is a contempt hearing, with Pat having to prove that he doesn't belong in jail. If he fails to prove that, the court would want him on hand so they can haul him off, and that doesn't work if he doesn't show up.
Also, his lawyers couldn't answer questions on his behalf or testify in response to questions from Quasi's lawyers, so again, Pat has to be there.

 

[Pat Fried Rice]

I'm quite certain that Niki can't show up for Patrick. Pat has to answer the judges questions, and if Niki tried to answer on his behalf, that would be hearsay and inadmissible in court. Quasi's lawyers also probably have the right to ask questions, and again, Niki can only answer for herself. Even if Niki were included in the order, Pat would still have to be there himself. I also don't believe Pat's lawyers can simply appear for him. This is a contempt hearing, with Pat having to prove that he doesn't belong in jail. If he fails to prove that, the court would want him on hand so they can haul him off, and that doesn't work if he doesn't show up.
Also, his lawyers couldn't answer questions on his behalf or testify in response to questions from Quasi's lawyers, so again, Pat has to be there.

Iirc, if he doesn’t show up this time, they’ll issue a bench warrant and make him appear. If the judge has to do that, the Pig is almost certainly going to jail.

 

[Piggle Rick]

Yes, she is also liable for the debt, or her fair part of it, even if she escapes the community property status of being sodomized by a pig by divorcing his fat ass. But if she shows up and starts lipping off, she's just as subject to contempt for disrupting the proceedings.

That would be the most ridiculous sovcit-level bullshit for these two, for Pat to skip (when he is the dude who is supposed to show up) and Nikki showing up instead and spouting white trash nonsense at the judge.

She’s not going to be thrown in a cell though, right? The person enjoying prison will be the hog.

 

[Illuminati Order Official]

Slowly reading through the thread. I'm up to page 1400 now, just when A Christmas Carnage by Owen A. Forrems got released.

"Who gives a single miniscule fuck about your progress through the thread?", you might ask. Ah. You see, on page 1400 Mr. Moonface pointed out the book's numerous 5-star reviews on Goodreads. I then decided to check the reviews for Dr. Forrems's previous masterpiece, In the Fat (foreword by Nigel Igger). Clicking the author's name on the book page of "A Christmas Carnage" resulted in an "Error 404" message, so I searched for the book's name directly, and these were the results.
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Oh come the fuck on

It's like the universe knows what an asshole man of pig is (also, very fat) and keeps providing hilarity even without any direct input from him.

I'll share my own find:

 

[AnOminous]

She’s not going to be thrown in a cell though, right? The person enjoying prison will be the hog.

If you're the person physically present in the courtroom chimping out, she could be.

She won't be locked up just for being Pig Boy's wife, though, if he is the one who pigs out.

There are two kinds of contempt. Most are what's called indirect contempt, where you simply violate a court order. You don't do that in the courtroom itself, you just violate an order somewhere in the world.

Direct contempt is where you violate a court order, or court decorum (which Sosnay seems to be very concerned about), while physically present in the court. That's where they can just immediately have you hauled off in cuffs.

 

[Rent Tin]

Considering his understanding of every other legal process, and OnA saying that they are going to be there to watch I'm willing to bet he is scared shitless and will send Nigki over to try and plead with the judge on his behalf.

 

[siegemeister675]

I saw some pests say WI is a community property state so that means they're both on the hook. I'm sure some law fag can explain

Edit: sniped

The payquasi.lol site has a link to info on this point.

 

[Unknown Recipient #12]

Patman went viral today with another tepid NPC take.

And this exposure of 580k views and 36k likes amounted to... -2 followers. Yes, really:

 

[AnOminous]

The payquasi.lol site has a link to info on this point.

Thanks for the exact document, it's this.

Now, I may be wrong, but the usual procedure is to get a lien on property you need to domesticate the judgment in the state where the property actually is, and then file a lien in that state. I don't remember seeing that.

It's hard to keep track of a thread this long fat, so there may be a lien after that, but I couldn't find it.

It's just that California generally does not have jurisdiction over property in Wisconsin.

I seem to remember one actually in Wisconsin but couldn't find it earlier.

The devil is in the details on liens.

 

[LGHDR+]

I wonder how much it cost them to forge a seat from dwarf star material, it’s the only thing that could hold his bulk.

The funny part is, you're talking about degenerate matter, which is a perfect material for Pat, both for structural integrity and descriptive features.

 

[FinnSven]

I’m gonna need someone to tell me who DSP and Greer are. Cannot seem to find them in the internet tough guys. Are they just fat cunts in the Deathfats forums? I haven’t ventured in there as yet. *shudder*

People have explained where to find them, but the main comparison they both have to Fatrick is that they are both litigious and delusional.

Greer attempts to sue women for not being in love with him, amongst other things, and has a condition in which his face muscles are paralyzed.
As such he comes across as some kind of spastic (no rudeness intended) so to most normal humans he just seems like a poor disabled guy.

DSP is an overgrown manchild like Fatrick but unlike Fatrick he strikes people as more of an actual child rather than a nasty spoiled patronizing baby man.
I don’t follow him too much as he was a terrible letsplayer and there is loads of accompanying twitch and YouTube lore which I don’t have the time in my life to bother catching up on, so if DSP heads have a different interpretation of him then please correct me.

I was pointing out why I think the courts went easier on him than they did on Fatrick.

 

[DSP's Tax Lawyer]

I don't think it's final yet but Melinda Scott currently has a proposed order that will require her to seek permission from the court before trying to sue Null/KF again. She will also owe Null some big buckaroonies once it's finalized. And by big buckaroonies I of course mean $44.40 lmao

As a sperg on both threads, Russell is not yet labeled a vexatious litigant and Melinda can still appeal the court order

 

[HodgePodgeRogerDodger]

I think the oddest thing about Pat is his delusions of grandeur about being a writer. He has abject contempt for people like Ethan Van Schriever for drawing comics, but most sci-fi writers are no different. Sci-Fi is pulp entertainment, companies pay a bunch of writers in hopes they get a hit that will bring in 10x what they pay the writer.

On top of that he’s such a boring person. He really doesn’t do anything. You don’t need to be a scientist to make sci-fi interesting, but he doesn’t grab from life experience that could. Insurance policy in the far future sounds boring, but a lot of good mystery novels involve mundane crimes that go wrong.
Agatha Christie lived a very exciting life and a lot of her stories drew from her experiences as an apothecaries assistant in the Red Cross, traveling with her mother, and her wealthy family being financially turbulent. Everything I’ve unfortunately read by Fat avoids this. He’s just wasted his life.

I'll share my own find:
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>Mary Walsh
Pattern recognition is curse.

 

[Laquisha Guntermensch]

Seriously though, any idea what it is that's wrong with him?
How does someone end up like Fat?

Them boys carrying depleted uranium cannon rounds flew in the mud behind his house a few too many times, I reckon. Irradiated his brain and turned him into Torque Wheeler like one of them cape-shit superhero stories, or somethin'.

 

[Sumptinsfuckey]

I think the oddest thing about Pat is his delusions of grandeur about being a writer. He has abject contempt for people like Ethan Van Schriever for drawing comics, but most sci-fi writers are no different. Sci-Fi is pulp entertainment, companies pay a bunch of writers in hopes they get a hit that will bring in 10x what they pay the writer.

On top of that he’s such a boring person. He really doesn’t do anything. You don’t need to be a scientist to make sci-fi interesting, but he doesn’t grab from life experience that could. Insurance policy in the far future sounds boring, but a lot of good mystery novels involve mundane crimes that go wrong.

In the hands of a GOOD writer, anything can be interesting, even insurance. For proof, chevk out "The Adventures of Tom Stranger, Interdimensional Isurance Agent" by Larry Correia, who, incidentially is actually the kind of man that Fatprick pretends to be.

 

[An automatic clown]

Let's deboonk.
1. Twitter accounts are actually free
2. Dan going from Massachusetts to Milwaukee was a couple hundred at best. I think he had actual business there and took a side trip your hovel
3. The people who went to Germany and replicated your unflattering pics were on a vacation of their own. It wasn't _solely_ to stalk/harass you, you're not worth it. You're also fat

 

[FinnSven]

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Let's deboonk.
1. Twitter accounts are actually free
2. Dan going from Massachusetts to Milwaukee was a couple hundred at best. I think he had actual business there and took a side trip your hovel
3. The people who went to Germany and replicated your unflattering pics were on a vacation of their own. It wasn't _solely_ to stalk/harass you, you're not worth it. You're also fat

Fatrick contains flavors of different conspiracies.

In legal matters he takes an approach similar to Sovereign Citizens, believing himself to be a sage and wise paragon of truth and justice.
All of the times it has gone wrong it is down to interference by stalkers, which leads neatly into his gang stalking fears.

To be fair, there is a group dedicated to laughing at his twitter takes and sometimes some of these people get a bit weenish, actively looking to engage with him in public.

So yes there is a strong case to call them gang stalkers, but he can’t prove that it was anyone from this group responsible for the actual criminal actions.

The swatting and vandalism, there is as much evidence he is responsible for it himself as there is of anyone from that group being the culprit.

I don’t know about the vandalism, but I really feel the most likely explanation for the Swatting is Fat probably called in the first couple, then someone he annoyed on twitter who is nothing to do with OnA or here started doing them.

The more Fatrick tries to blame his more “open” stalkers the more the actual culprit can keep doing them thinking they will get away with it.

So if anyone is co-ordinating Fatrick’s harassment, it is Fatrick himself.

I bet if he took a mental health break from twitter or social media in general, he wouldn’t be harassed as much and wouldn’t get swatted.