Unpopular Opinions about Video Games

What about the people who insist that they don't want to think while playing a game? Is that what you mean?
Those people grind my gears a bit.

"I just don't want to think." then go the fuck to bed, nigga.

@Judge Dredd
So which do your guys think is worse? Unexplained diversity and millennial Californian values in a medieval fantasy setting, or a setting that has heavy handed political commentary? eg. The police are cartoonishly racist, and the villain has a Richard Spencer haircut and wears a red hat.
Unexplained diversity and millenial Californian values in a medieval fantasy setting would probably annoy me more, simply because I'm probably looking at something in the fantasy genre as an escape.

But I see them as being about equal in terms of awfulness in principle.
 
So which do your guys think is worse? Unexplained diversity and millennial Californian values in a medieval fantasy setting, or a setting that has heavy handed political commentary? eg. The police are cartoonishly racist, and the villain has a Richard Spencer haircut and wears a red hat.
Both are vomitous, but in a traditional fantasy setting I at least expect something that respects its own authenticity in terms of worldbuilding and such, which is simply incompatible with Wokeism.
 
So which do your guys think is worse? Unexplained diversity and millennial Californian values in a medieval fantasy setting, or a setting that has heavy handed political commentary? eg. The police are cartoonishly racist, and the villain has a Richard Spencer haircut and wears a red hat.
The first, because I'm more likely to accidentally buy it and waste a few hours on it.
 
So which do your guys think is worse? Unexplained diversity and millennial Californian values in a medieval fantasy setting, or a setting that has heavy handed political commentary? eg. The police are cartoonishly racist, and the villain has a Richard Spencer haircut and wears a red hat.
Unexplained diversity is worse because retards will think it's how things have always been whereas most people can realize that the latter is hyperbole.
 
So which do your guys think is worse? Unexplained diversity and millennial Californian values in a medieval fantasy setting, or a setting that has heavy handed political commentary? eg. The police are cartoonishly racist, and the villain has a Richard Spencer haircut and wears a red hat.
Those sound like they're basically the same thing to me.

In general though I tend to find in-your-face preaching worse than merely a few iffy world choices. It was one reason I couldn't stand the His Dark Materials books--people insist the first two can be read without seeing the anti-Christian stuff, but that's a straight-up lie: the first book mentions the Bible and Church by name and has a prominent wise man character outright say they're behind all the evil in the world.

Actually that's probably worse: People who claim that the messages aren't that prominent or can be ignored, especially when they're about as subtle as a Captain Planet episode. At least Captain Planet is entertaining and I go in knowing its gonna be bullshit environmentalism.
 
So which do your guys think is worse? Unexplained diversity and millennial Californian values in a medieval fantasy setting, or a setting that has heavy handed political commentary? eg. The police are cartoonishly racist, and the villain has a Richard Spencer haircut and wears a red hat.
I think the latter. It shows the dev has an agenda to sell. In the case of the former, they're just hedging their bets and playing it safe.

Then again, fantasy racism will sometimes unintentionally have the opposite effect, and show that racial tensions exist for a reason more plausible than just "ewww, they're different".

For example, that movie District 9. In an attempt to make it a parable about Apartheid, they made oppressing the Prawns look justified. They're listless, destructive, and violent, to the point that the government hires extralegal mercs to keep them from getting out of hand.

And fantasy racism is a fun way to be racist without getting reprimanded IRL for it. Look at Warhammer: "knife-ear", "squat", "greenskin", "mutant", "Mon'keigh", "xeno", "oomie", "abhuman", etc.
 
And lore-consistent reasons for why they're there. Are you intentionally missing the point, or just not reading the things you respond to?
@Raging Capybara always misses the point of everything because he only pays attention to the title in bold letters like a consoomer he is.
 
Since it might be a while until I get around to it, what is it in the show that inspired so many woke-scolds and millennial writers? Is it just because of the quipy writing was fresh at the time, or was there more to it?
Probably because it was on TV and a bit different. Misunderstand me the right way when I say that the show was like Twin Peaks for teens. It was a generally light hearted network tv-show with a monster of the week, some sappy romance(that thankfully got better once Angel got his own show that I refuse to watch) but as expected there is nothing gratuitous in it. Standard stuff. PG13. But it also has a couple of events that doesn't happen in shows like that and for millenials that probably hit them hard and left an impact. That's why I call it Twin Peaks for teens.

It was a fun show unlike Bewitched which was pure pointless misery that only women can watch.

WARNING: I haven't watched Buffy since it ended, it might be very annoying now.

Turn up the sound, it is extremely low for some reason.
 
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So which do your guys think is worse? Unexplained diversity and millennial Californian values in a medieval fantasy setting, or a setting that has heavy handed political commentary? eg. The police are cartoonishly racist, and the villain has a Richard Spencer haircut and wears a red hat.
I've spergposted about this exact topic with respect to Far Cry 5 and the politics of it. I'd rather have something that is aggressively political but has something interesting to say about it than something that's empty.
 
Okay, risking a really unpopular opinion...

*SOME* amount of wokeness is okay, and perhaps even desirable.

At the risk of going off-topic, I tried to read 1960s Marvel Comics and couldn't stand them in part due to how women were written--as one-dimensional harpies who only exist to make men miserable. I mean, you can argue that's realistic.... but it still meant a lot of the stories involved unpleasant characters who I hated any time they were on page.

By the 1980s we start getting more likable women, like She-Ra or Rainbow Brite... in part because of feminism. And you know what? Those characters are actually kind of cool.

Swinging back to video games... let's be honest, there's three things we all love about Super Mario RPG:

One, Bowser and Mario being on the same side for once.
Two, GENO.
Three, Princess Toadstool being a playable and actually useful character.

Not in a "yeah, girl power!" way, but rather... I view it as kind of similar to the appeal of Ultra Instinct Shaggy.

........ Having said all that....

I do draw the line at trannies. A woman who kicks ass? You can do that and have genuine, non-ideological reasons for it. Multiracial main characters? That could make sense if, say, you're making a Parasite Eve sequel and it still takes place in the USA.

But as far as I know, there is literally no way to feature a trans character and have them seem at all natural... because at some point them being trans has to actually be brought up and discussed. If it isn't, then the audience won't even know they're trans and will just think they're one of the two natural genders. But how do you bring up being trans in a way that feels natural?

And then of course... we already have people saying that having negroes can break suspension of disbelief. Trannies are that problem but 1000x worse.
 
*SOME* amount of wokeness is okay, and perhaps even desirable.
I can see where you're getting at with this statement. Let me say this: there's nothing wrong with having strong, female characters in video games. Samus from Metroid, Lara Croft from Tomb Raider, Bayonetta, several Street Fighter characters, Joanna Dark from Perfect Dark. These are just some playable female characters I can think of within the video game medium that are popular and well-liked.

Hell, I encourage developers to have women in video games to mix up storytelling, gameplay and expectations. The issue with "wokeness" goes two-fold: having female characters in video games (or any medium, for that matter) should not automatically be a political statement. It's entirely possible to have well-written, diverse female characters, whether they'd be a heroine (Samus, Metroid series), supporting character (Jill Valentine, Resident Evil), villainess (Lady Dimestrcu, Resident Evil 8) or anywhere in between (Commander Shepard, Mass Effect series.)

The issue is how and why female characters are represented nowadays for the sake of shallow representation.
 
So which do your guys think is worse? Unexplained diversity and millennial Californian values in a medieval fantasy setting, or a setting that has heavy handed political commentary? eg. The police are cartoonishly racist, and the villain has a Richard Spencer haircut and wears a red hat.
The former because it feels like a lost opportunity to make more cool cultures instead of just sticking everyone into fantasy europe. The MMO Guild Wars, obviously not the tip-top of writing, made its own fantasy africa and gave them all these different countries on this continent. Even giving explanations why there's so common in the europe-equivalent.
 
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Am I the only person here more interested in Baldur's Gate now that it has bear fucking?
Nah pretty sure Catler will be down.

The former because it feels like a lost opportunity to make more cool cultures instead of just sticking everyone into fantasy europe. The MMO Guild Wars, obviously not the tip-top of writing, made its own fantasy africa and gave them all these different countries on this continent. Even giving explanations why there's so common in the europe-equivalent.
GW2 era lore on the world of Guild Wars glossed over anything that would be even VAGUELY unacceptable years ago. Now Anet would rather boof battery acid than offend a single soul. I have no idea how they'll handle Cantha since it heavily featured chinese culture and I'm pretty sure NCSoft will get furiously asshurt if they say anything remotely positive about china.
 
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Just had an exciting new problem where an Xbox One controller connected fine, but would exclusively read LT and RT triggers until I restarted Windows.

Anybody who likes wireless controllers is wrong and gay and has terrible opinions and you faggots are the reason that it's no longer possible to buy a decent wired controller.
I had an Xbox One controller once, but it would mysteriously keep blue screening my PC. It connected ok but within the next few minutes it would kill it. Went back to the caveman Logitech controller and decided wireless controllers were a mistake.
 
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Okay, risking a really unpopular opinion...

*SOME* amount of wokeness is okay, and perhaps even desirable.
No.

By the 1980s we start getting more likable women, like She-Ra or Rainbow Brite... in part because of feminism. And you know what? Those characters are actually kind of cool.
I don't know anything about those characters but what direct connection is there between their good qualities and feminism, and if it's true, is Rainbow Brite actually worth the societal poison of feminism?

Swinging back to video games... let's be honest, there's three things we all love about Super Mario RPG:

One, Bowser and Mario being on the same side for once.
Two, GENO.
Three, Princess Toadstool being a playable and actually useful character.
Peach was playable and the best character in SMB2 too, that's not woke. You're stretching woke to mean "women in fiction doing literally anything aside from being pregnant, cooking, and cleaning".

There's distinction between a fantasy setting and reality. Even if someone thought that was the role of a woman in real life, fantasy doesn't require those restrictions, but that also doesn't mean to fully erase gender dynamics either just because it's fantasy (you know, a small normal human woman beating down big men in realistic fiction).
 
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