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Is this game good? I was thinking of buying it, and/or the other ones like China: Mao's Legacy. Which in the series is best?
Plagued /r/TNOmod and the Reddit HOI4 modding community - When a subreddit for a video game mod turns to utter insanity
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I've only played the East German part of Ostalgie, though the rest of the Communist Bloc, minus the PRC and USSR, are playable via (paid) DLC. I managed to more-or-less keep the Bloc somewhat stitched together and keep East Germany a Marxist country.
How did I do it?
Basically rolling back to being a Stalinst country with Erich Mielke in charge, saving money to form my own bootleg version of the ComEcon, keeping the other Communist nations from liberalizing too much via sending the Stasi on spook missions, and buying blueprints for nuclear weaponry from the collapsing USSR. You can then turn around and sell those blueprints to North Korea for easy money.
Mind you, this is one of the ways you can "win" the game. Which, FYI, "winning" means surviving until 1993 rolls around. It's also possible to buy the Mir space station in a drunken stupor.
Karakhalkin-Gol
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In case you missed it because of the rollback, the first fanfiction mod is finally out, Red Flood: Judgement Day.
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Among other things
>Burgundy is either kill or, maybe, turned into a French SS incursion on France (could lead to a war)
>Himmler becoming Fuhrer candidate, sees himself as an "educator" of the German people, side focus on esotericism old-Josias style
>Heydrich will be a midgame candidate, showing up in some situations if other Fuhrers are assassinated in around '65. Seeks to break down pragmatism and enforce pure Hitlerist ideology with no constraints, along with a totalitarian security state as some had theorized
>Not much on Goring outside vague mentions alongside the others, he doesn't have a folder like the other four (Speer and Boringman reworks also have some interesting stuff), may be cut, if not definitely in dev hell
>Pitifully small amount of stuff for Asia in comparison to Europe (it has a single folder compared to most other big nations having their own), though there are some big mega autism docs on how Manchuria and China work, so there's some work being done there. Japan stuff too.
>Poland was not just slightly delayed, but failed due to poor auditing. Not coming soon, but at the struggle session/meeting notes it was stated team auditing would be overhauled to try and avoid this happening again.
>Only like 20% of greytides (writers) make their quotas at the moment, with seemingly 50+ people acting as part-timers or something
>Quebec war potential in Canada
>A bunch of Brazil shit nobody cares about (actually, it could be pretty cool)
>Josias being replaced with some Rosenbergite loser, potential for Caucasian revolts and wars (looks like skeleton shit though)
>Seemingly recent France proposal, about a month old, so maybe it'll go somewhere. Quite long
>Lots of changes in Russia, and I think they won't go over well. Devs see Russia as something that would be totally ripped apart were it not Russia, but will take a more moderate line because even they know they can't go that fucking far. Amur overhaul that seems pretty passionate, and a bunch of literallywhos in Central Siberia. Dirly replaced with Russian fascist bandits
>A Turkey proposal that's pretty long, though by my count this is maybe the third version of Turkey
>Indonesia and Azad Hind content, unification war for the latter
>Manchuko has an entire autistic aesthetic proposal about GFX style, which (if you read this Manchuko devs) is actually pretty cool. Seems like the most passionate team
>Though Germany also have a massive document (100+ pages, I skimmed it) on how it works politically, made by a non-dev who seems to have been accepted on the team as a result of it
>Africa has a huge lore bible, worth checking out
>expected and forthcoming TFL and Ukraine stuff
>A shit ton of other assorted docs, some really, really old. Lots of outdated, released, and cancelled stuff along with things that seem to still be in.
>A shit ton of dev builds I downloaded, you can probably play these and see where development is for most major branches, but I can't be assed at the moment
>TNO's map projection is being entirely changed to show Antarctica, the Arctic, and more accurate dimensions/locations for continents. A bit meaningless, but it seems to look better from the image provided.
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Reading the leaks, it's funny contrasting the approach to Africa, where they basically say "this stretches even the very thin veneer of plausibility this mod has to its breaking point, but it works and trying to make it more realistic will never be worth the time and effort" to basically all the other plans.
Like the Russia stuff. I think some of the plans for Russia look kinda interesting, and I'm not super attached to any particular part of TNO. It's still a horrible fucking idea to gut basically the only remotely complete area of the mod and I suspect they know that, which is why they've never toozed anything about it.
The best thing they could possibly do is just draw lines under certain bits of content and say "this shit works, we're not touching it", because what they're doing now is proof fucking positive of the phrase 'perfect is the enemy of good'
It's not gonna happen though, because the leaks also show how much time they waste on retarded drama. I mean, it's not surprising in any way, because the venn diagram between 'terminally online turbo autist' and 'modder' is basically a fucking circle, but Jesus, it's a hell of another thing to see it.
Like the Russia stuff. I think some of the plans for Russia look kinda interesting, and I'm not super attached to any particular part of TNO. It's still a horrible fucking idea to gut basically the only remotely complete area of the mod and I suspect they know that, which is why they've never toozed anything about it.
The best thing they could possibly do is just draw lines under certain bits of content and say "this shit works, we're not touching it", because what they're doing now is proof fucking positive of the phrase 'perfect is the enemy of good'
It's not gonna happen though, because the leaks also show how much time they waste on retarded drama. I mean, it's not surprising in any way, because the venn diagram between 'terminally online turbo autist' and 'modder' is basically a fucking circle, but Jesus, it's a hell of another thing to see it.
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So appartnly Furherredux imploded because a lot of the actual devs left to make Fuhrerreich Ice steel. claiming the lead dev, a greekoid, try to push to much of his personal beliefs into furherredux and banning people who did actual work instead of toozers. now furherredux devs claim the new furher fork is stolen and will do a lolsuit against this new fork. and trying to get kaiserredux troons to downvote it on steam.
Link to said new mod and fork. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3034282757&searchtext=ice
Link to said new mod and fork. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3034282757&searchtext=ice
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also its alledged now that FurherRedux has stolen all the custom new shit from Ice Steel and put it in there mod as their github is now public for "public testing". meanwhile if you join you gotta wait 20 minutes before you can chat in their discord, where they admit to gayops against the Ice Steel devs, but if the jannies think your account is too suspcious, they'll ban you legit the second the timer is up, so join the FurherRedux discord and grab as many screenshots as you can before they nuke everything
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According to Fuhreredux this is what happened:
Basically the Fuhreredux team claim they more mad at them running away with the code for the content still being worked on more than anything else.
That part of the Ice Steel devs wanting to use a suicided dude as a meme path seems pretty messed up if true. Going to take a neutral stance between these two and wait to see how it plays out before making a final judgement.
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>they stole muh code
being blunt, any mod dev thinking they "own the code" for their mod is utterly retarded, under copyright law in burgerland the game owner owns all copyright, so Paradox techinally owns the Copyright to TNO, Kaiserreich, Fuhrerreich, etc. no one can own a mod, because you are using copyright material and code to build upon it under the condition of making no profit off it (that many mod teams still do regradless.)
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I don't care who stole what off each other, if the Ice Cold team's claims about FX's leadership are true then they'll end up with a superior mod in the long run and thats more of a flex than any arguing on discord will ever get you. Though half the images on their steam page being memes shitting on FX doesn't look good on them.
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>soy4 devnigs unable to resist the urge to larp
>soy4 devnigs using github not in the way its intended
Like clockwork
>soy4 devnigs using github not in the way its intended
Like clockwork
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After 4 months, Bring the War Home has a new teaser!
About...the Soviets?
Good to see they're hard at work on the content the mod benefits the most from!
About...the Soviets?
Good to see they're hard at work on the content the mod benefits the most from!
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While you're right about the code part (a fact that consistently comes as a surprise to modders), Paradox actually does allow for making a profit out of modding. IIRC the limit is that you don't sell your mod or anything like that, so Patreon and merchandise etc are kosher.
Good for them, never played multiplayer myself but clearly it's popular enough for Paradox to invest this much into it. Though, if anything, this pretty much confirms that any future Paradox games will be much more geared towards MP if they're a suitable title.
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its more just a general statement, even more so when modders have pissing matches accusing other mod devs of "stealing code", which implies they own any code to begin with
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Probably one of the few good ideas they've had that I've not seen in other mods that focus in one region do.
Hoi4's competitive MP is lightning in a bottle they're likely never going to be able to replicate and hopefully they know that, it'd also be incredibly risky for Paradox to have a more MP focused game because I've only ever heard bad things about the stability of MP in the games using the newer version of the Clauswitz engine.
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HOI4 Competitive MP being even somewhat successful is a happy little accident considering how much the engine works against it.
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This isn't the first moon landing event they've teased, seems they've rewritten/recoded the one from 2020.
('FBI Informant' is their teaser role.)
Don't know why they'd dedicate so much time to this stuff when they haven't even completed the VIP majors. Oh wait yes I do, it's seething & wish fulfillment re: the space race. Apparently Goldwater cut American NASA funding to the bone, might even have privatized the program because he's such an evil service-cutting penny-pinching conservative, and that's why the US space program fails in BTWH's timeline - even though IRL he was as big a fan of it as anyone else. If anything, it was the radical left that wanted to kill the space program in favor of mo' welfare:
Meanwhile the Soviet lunar program was a trainwreck which never once succeeded in its goal, couldn't even manage an unmanned moon landing with the N1 (their equivalent to the Saturn V) before being ignominiously canceled IRL.