Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

[glass_houses]

I understand the sentiment, it can appear very cold hearted, but I'm p sure this person is just grieving. Some people get angry, god knows I did when my brother died stupidly. And the guy killing himself with his friends downstairs, likely hoping to be found by them? No, that's fucking traumatic, especially if he blew his brains out. Suicide doesn't end with the person dying, it effects the entire family and everyone you know. Yes they are mentally ill and getting help can be hard, but the way they did it was definitely horrific and I imagine the friend that found them will have ptsd after that. It's not uncommon for family or friends who find bodies of suicide to follow shortly after, because it does give you ptsd.

A friend who is currently living in a very small, tight knit community recently visited us recently. He told me that a member of that community recently committed suicide, and that there was more anger than grief for many, because the people who were close to her are so gutted that they can't function. As a result, massive ripples of dysfunction have affected even those who weren't particularly familiar with her. It's a massive impact on the entire community's functioning. Grief is only part of it.

I am very familiar with despair but the suicide of a physically and neurologically healthy person is ultimately a very selfish act. It is incredibly traumatic for friends and family, and the services that have to clean up the corpse. Anger is a very common feeling for the people left behind.

 

[feralteen]

My cousin Dylan trooned out and chose a fucking FLOWER name for himself.
I have the urge to ask him where his ovaries are

 

[glass_houses]

My cousin Dylan trooned out and chose a fucking FLOWER name for himself.
I have the urge to ask him where his ovaries are

Please tell me he called himself 'Lily'.

 

[Baraadmirer]

Please tell me he called himself 'Lily'.

I'm hoping for Marigold or God forbid, Petunia.

 

[glass_houses]

I'm hoping for Marigold or God forbid, Petunia.

'Lily' is the name of an extremely important character in a certain transphobe's wizard books.

 

[Baraadmirer]

And Petunia is the name of a parental figure in that same transphobe's wizard books.

 

[Lady Round Buns]

It's been over a year now, and my eldest still won't talk to me, and is still making up grievances that never happened or were never said. She's gone fully to they/them these days, shaved off her eyebrows, and has the worst Tumblr hair (mullet, danger colored) I could ever imagine.

She's taken to posting passive aggressive vague posts on her social media, implying I called her ugly as a child (I would NEVER, plus I've always tried to stress appreciating their intelligence than looks with my kids, anyway.), and is making sure to leave some sort of reaction on my anti-troon posts. Though I've kind of sworn off social media, I'm just so thoroughly sick of all the dishonesty and fake baloney everyone posts, so it's been a few months since I've seen her do so.

I do miss her, but kind of saw this coming. The kid sees love as transactional, is very entitled, and thinks she's owed everything. She wasn't getting what she demanded from me anymore because I put my foot down, but her father was still trying to kiss her ass (meals out, gifts, money), so he's the good guy now and I'm back to being the bad guy. It's too bad, but meh, I love her but she's terrible on everyone's mental health including mine, so what can you do.

 

[glass_houses]

It's been over a year now, and my eldest still won't talk to me, and is still making up grievances that never happened or were never said. She's gone fully to they/them these days, shaved off her eyebrows, and has the worst Tumblr hair (mullet, danger colored) I could ever imagine.

She's taken to posting passive aggressive vague posts on her social media, implying I called her ugly as a child (I would NEVER, plus I've always tried to stress appreciating their intelligence than looks with my kids, anyway.), and is making sure to leave some sort of reaction on my anti-troon posts. Though I've kind of sworn off social media, I'm just so thoroughly sick of all the dishonesty and fake baloney everyone posts, so it's been a few months since I've seen her do so.

I do miss her, but kind of saw this coming. The kid sees love as transactional, is very entitled, and thinks she's owed everything. She wasn't getting what she demanded from me anymore because I put my foot down, but her father was still trying to kiss her ass (meals out, gifts, money), so he's the good guy now and I'm back to being the bad guy. It's too bad, but meh, I love her but she's terrible on everyone's mental health including mine, so what can you do.

You do realise that she's a malignant narcissist, right?

 

[Lady Round Buns]

You do realise that she's a malignant narcissist, right?

I do, or at the very least she is personality disordered of the cluster B variety anyway. Her father is the same way, I've seen a lot of the same behaviors from him. It's really very depressing when it's your kid and you've truly tried your best to be a good mom, and realize there is no real fixing things.

 

[glass_houses]

I do, or at the very least she is personality disordered of the cluster B variety anyway. Her father is the same way, I've seen a lot of the same behaviors from him. It's really very depressing when it's your kid and you've truly tried your best to be a good mom, and realize there is no real fixing things.

I don't have children, but I've cut contact with two siblings and their kids. It gets to a point where you realise that the decades you wasted on certain people were a bad investment that you will never get returns from, and it's time to cut your losses and move on.

Hopefully she never has kids. She will absolutely weaponise them against you and everyone else.

 

[Lady Round Buns]

I don't have children, but I've cut contact with two siblings and their kids. It gets to a point where you realise that the decades you wasted on certain people were a bad investment that you will never get returns from, and it's time to cut your losses and move on.

Hopefully she never has kids. She will absolutely weaponise them against you and everyone else.

I totally agree, just hurts like hell.

Thank God in Heaven she has continuously told me (because she knows it would upset me a little, I now see this as a good thing) that she won't ever give me grandchildren. Hopefully she continues on that path, her very serious boyfriend doesn't want children either, so that helps.

 

[Näkki]

Started typing this out in my last post, but it was simply inappropriate for the thread so I'll dump it here instead.

Spoiler: I need a damn smoke and a bottle of wine

I need to start sorting this shit. Screenshots and archives. Which certainly didn't occur to me a few years ago. I hoped it would be a fad. Kept hoping every two years like a fucking fool that people can finally have a conversation. "now this will be the last scandal for people to open their eyes"

People are even more unable to have debates or discussions. It's all so tiring.. I've been to some events now and I just observed people at first. Afterwards struck up conversations because I was curious. It's all just so contradictory and utterly.. Stupid.

But now with my friend of more of a decade.. Gave her a quick run down of what I believe in.. "no I don't want you to stop existing. You do you. Just please leave single sex spaces and sports and kids out of it. Stop turning pride into a bdsm/kink thing. Stop taking kids to that thing then. Don't make it a great thing to be read to by a drag queen called "mccunt" or something. Why not prisons or shelters or hospice."

"you clearly think of me as a monster! Since I am transgender!"

Yeah, I saw that coming for a year. Great time to come out. Polycule, non binary partner, etc. I'm polite because she matters to me a lot and I truly care for her..

Now, where in this did I say she's a monster though?

Tried reassuring her, even asked for new name and pronouns. (I'm just a sucker for punishment and would really rather suppress everything, if she could just see I was there for her)

Nah, blocked and didn't even read anything I send her. Why? Because I volunteered as a female security at a women only event in my country. That's what it takes apparently.

All conversations end the same. There's simply none to be had despite every attempt to the contrary. I am fucking tired.

 

[Exercise4Reader]

I've come to the damning realization that the religious fundamentalists I scoffed at as a teenager were right about everything this entire time.

Let's not get carried away here. In this case that broken clock was right about this one thing, but that doesn't mean all the other batshit insane stuff that comes out of their mouths has any worth at all.

 

[OnionMuncher]

This is gonna be a long one. Probably full of fucked up typos cause I should have written it somewhere else before impulsively deciding to go off on mobile while half drunk.
I had a 2 and half year 'on and off' (read: this guy never took any relationship serious let alone ours and couldn't be monogamous if you paid him) with a now-TIM.
I dont talk about this with anyone. They'd call me fucking retarded, I'd agree with them.
We met when I was getting out of a physically abusive relationship combined with familial abuse. Long story but the abusive ex still lives with a family member of mine and we don't talk for obvious reasons. I was addicted to cocaine, about to try meth cause the price was better. Sad but lol now, never did. Got clean. Sick.
Anyway, he fucked with me from the beginning.
To keep it short and to the troon shit, he was defending being into loli when he was younger 'cause they were closer to his age than not' but now it's totally gross.... Yeah....right. He was into pegging. I wasn't. But i had a lot of straps from a lesbian relationship that lasted for about 5 years. He buys a massive dildo, asks me to use it on him. Unfortunately, I do. He starts wearing my lingerie while we fuck. Gross but he was the most 'stable' person I'd been around. Yeah the family i have is, fucked, I know.
He fetishizes the abuse i went through as a kid. Brings it up a lot. Way more than I thought was relevant. Used it to say I was already 'sexually broken' and should give in.
Cut to, crossdressing, pressuring me into public sex, filming us having sex without my consent, identifying as a "they/them" and pressuring me to move across the country for him.
I was so dumb, I DID. We meet with his parents and the whole lot. Walked his stupid dog he got on a whim and got rid of as simply as getting him. He tried to convince me I was FTM. Cause I hate shaving, kept my hair short and liked video games. That's it. Literally the most feminine girl I know but yeah, such man uwu. This is when i started massive pushback. Lots of arguments, blah blah.
He leaves me alone on the street after I beat him in smash bros ultimate. Not even fucking joking. The ultimate fight between us was between Ness and Peach. That was a fun argument to look at later without his looming, Grima Wormtongue-esque, influence.
I move back in with my mom. No fun, but she keeps beer stocked. Besides being a crazy, woo spouting, hippy about how onion juice and apple cider vinegar will cure me, she's also a sweet lady that helps. She had an AGP bf I never had heard of that I learned about while we were drinking on the patio one night. Very helpful advice followed.
He keeps contacting me. I'm deciding to play chaotic and just send him songs. Whatever I'm listening to, relevant or not. Honestly wanted to see what he had to say, but I wasn't about to engage in a meaningful way.
Eventually he cuts contact and expects me to crawl back.
I dont.
Texts me almost 2 years later that he's sorry and has changed and 'found himself'. I wont lie...very curious what the fuck that could mean. Go to his brothers social media.
A TROON.
Midwest, corn-fed, little, faggot, fucking TROONED. Giant shoulders stuffed in a crop top, buffalo bill face in the same makeup I wore when I gave a fuck, fishnets and gamersocks TROON.
Wild.
Glad I got out without a kid or a mortgage.

Idk if it's relevant but I had to share the loli loving, pegging begging, dude that thought he had me wrapped around his girlcock for life.

Edit: fixed the typos my drunk ass could see.

 

[glass_houses]

@OnionMuncher these types of individuals have an uncanny ability to sniff out potential victims, people who are ill or are in bad situations or who are royally messed up from the trauma congo or who are just naive. Looking back you wonder how you could be so fucking stupid. Your ex is the scum you read about online, who cheated his frail, elderly, mum, a verifiable saint, out of every single cent and scrap of property she owned before dumping her to die in the street by herself. He's the scum who visits his heartbroken bff, whose fucking cat just died, and sneaks into her bedroom and nicks her heirloom jewellery. He's the type that refuses to lift a finger in that huge project he's supposed to be working on, and at the end everyone discovers to late that he's already arranged it so he gets 100% of the credit and the payment for the project that they flogged themselves to death for.

Predators will always sniff out someone who is bleeding into the water. They have absolutely no interest in someone who is mentally healthy and in a good place.

Congratulations on getting sober. Try to stay that way. There are always monsters like your ex lying in wait.

 

[OnionMuncher]

@OnionMuncher these types of individuals have an uncanny ability to sniff out potential victims, people who are ill or are in bad situations or who are royally messed up from the trauma congo or who are just naive. Looking back you wonder how you could be so fucking stupid. Your ex is the scum you read about online, who cheated his frail, elderly, mum, a verifiable saint, out of every single cent and scrap of property she owned before dumping her to die in the street by herself. He's the scum who visits his heartbroken bff, whose fucking cat just died, and sneaks into her bedroom and nicks her heirloom jewellery. He's the type that refuses to lift a finger in that huge project he's supposed to be working on, and at the end everyone discovers to late that he's already arranged it so he gets 100% of the credit and the payment for the project that they flogged themselves to death for.

Predators will always sniff out someone who is bleeding into the water. They have absolutely no interest in someone who is mentally healthy and in a good place.

Congratulations on getting sober. Try to stay that way. There are always monsters like your ex lying in wait.

Honestly did not expect such a salient response but...honestly that helps. Been keeping my drinking to the weekends of my workweek and being sober besides that. Drinking is always just meh to me after the rest.

The troon really did have a hold on me. It was fucking ridiculous how normal abusive behaviour becomes. Blood in the water is the best way to put it. Reminds me of Dennis from its always sunny in Philadelphia. Been clean off street drugs and the like for 3 years now. I'm in my own place i pay for without state assistance (first in my family) with a normie dude I adore. Just got him into kingcobrajfs and he's like 'oh I get kiwifarms now. This shits addicting'
I hold off making coke and meth jokes for his sanity.
Thank you, kind internet stranger. Brings a weird sense of pride while I make dinner for me and him and feed our dog and cat. Makes things seem so normal.

Edit to add: he made fun of his mom being cheated on by his dad. Said if she 'was moren sexually available' his dad wouldn't need to go find some strange. You're correct in your assertions.

 

[Piss Bear]

He fetishizes the abuse i went through as a kid. Brings it up a lot. Way more than I thought was relevant. Used it to say I was already 'sexually broken' and should give in.

This man is a sexual predator... dear lord. Not much more I can say other than I'm very glad you got out of there. He also sounds like a textbook sociopath.

Regarding him asking you to fly across the country to be with him... it's funny. I've talked with a lot of guys online and they are always the one asking you to take the plunge and move to a different state to be with them and never the other way around. Funny. You make all the sacrifices, they lose nothing and gain everything. Such douchebags.

I want to add, however, that you are better than this type of person. You are worthy of someone who truly loves and cares about you. But also, you deserve to have some more self-worth and confidence. I don't like to say self-love because it's gay but you know what I mean. Set some boundaries. If some fag wants you to fuck him in the ass with a dildo, smack him in the face with it and leave him. Men can be such pigs sometimes. I know I'm sounding like a bit of a feminist, I'm truly not, but the best types you'll find are most likely the men who don't watch porn and/or quit watching. Idk girl. Stay safe and take care of yourself first.

 

[the rat]

'Lily' is the name of an extremely important character in a certain transphobe's wizard books.

Wizard books? Funny thinking about that because I'm pretty sure many troons have a dream of becoming a heckin' valid passable witch who will cast many spells amongst the TERFs and niggers who dare to oppose them.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

It's been over a year now, and my eldest still won't talk to me, and is still making up grievances that never happened or were never said. She's gone fully to they/them these days, shaved off her eyebrows, and has the worst Tumblr hair (mullet, danger colored) I could ever imagine.

She's taken to posting passive aggressive vague posts on her social media, implying I called her ugly as a child (I would NEVER, plus I've always tried to stress appreciating their intelligence than looks with my kids, anyway.), and is making sure to leave some sort of reaction on my anti-troon posts. Though I've kind of sworn off social media, I'm just so thoroughly sick of all the dishonesty and fake baloney everyone posts, so it's been a few months since I've seen her do so.

I do miss her, but kind of saw this coming. The kid sees love as transactional, is very entitled, and thinks she's owed everything. She wasn't getting what she demanded from me anymore because I put my foot down, but her father was still trying to kiss her ass (meals out, gifts, money), so he's the good guy now and I'm back to being the bad guy. It's too bad, but meh, I love her but she's terrible on everyone's mental health including mine, so what can you do.

This whole saga is a great cautionary lesson about the damage bitter divorcefags do to their offspring.

Adults tied up in their idiotic sexual psychodramas create narcissistic troon offspring as sure as a horse and a donkey make a mule.

 

[doodoocaca]

This thread should have a running counter of how many lives were ruined, be it through active direct trooning and it's manifold consequences, or collateral trooning. It struck me suddenly while reading about the cornfed little faggot.

It's not just them, or their immediate relatives, it's ruined lives and a turbo fucked society. It's the loss of free speech, women losing more and more to men in drag, healthcare problems, "canceled" random people for not towing the line, sexualized children, grift, greed, and ghoulish bullshit.

The entire fucking west has lost itself to this shit.