2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

Haha, nope.


"-No matter what your legends say, you didn't sprout from the plains like the spring grasses. And you didn't coalesce out of the ether."
Can't play it on here but guessing its the Sitting Bull video which is great.

Only thing I want to hear is that Israel is pre-emptively handing out iodine pills to the folks living near gaza
They wouldn't glass anything close to themselves unless they were going full Sampson
 
BBC journo posts the Arma III video. If you are still paying the license fee, you are retarded.

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Troons are Left fascists. Troons hate Israel. I'd expect no less.
Like every month at this time, because the Social Security Office is sending out the tugboats.
 
A British citizen is missing after Hamas attacked a psychedelic music festival in Israel, the country's embassy in the UK has told Sky News. Jake Marlowe, 26, has not been heard from since Saturday morning, the embassy said.



This is the same music festival where one Israeli and her boyfriend were kidnapped from and a 30-year-old woman was killed and her body was seen on the back of a pick-up truck. A footballer who attended has also been confirmed killed. The footage of people fleeing across a field yesterday was apparently attendees of the event running away from militants.
 
BBC journo posts the Arma III video. If you are still paying the license fee, you are retarded.

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Nothing warms my heart more than Journos proving they don't do any research and a literal AI bot could do their job better.

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This is the same music festival where one Israeli and her boyfriend were kidnapped from and a 30-year-old woman was killed and her body was seen on the back of a pick-up truck. A footballer who attended has also been confirmed killed. The footage of people fleeing across a field yesterday was apparently attendees of the event running away from militants.
I still can't think of for the life of me figure out why you would go to a music festival on the border of Palestine unless you lived in the area and even then. Like I wouldn't even go to a monster truck rally figuring a tire could fly off and crush me in the stands. Did they fly there for this? Or was this more like "Hey we're traveling and this is in the area."

Either way that had to have been wild. Is there any footage of it going down? I saw some before it went down but nothing of it. Wondering if Hamas parachuted in and just went crazy.
 
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There sure do seem to be a lot of Israelis getting called up for duty inside all my free speech leaning internet spaces.
I suspect many of the Jews on here date back to before all the /Pol/ refugees came in. When it was an internet gossip site and not “the worst site on the internet”.

I also suspect there are some JIDF sleeper accounts but they’re a marginal presence.
 
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When has Hamas ever planned for the long term?
I was mostly trying to get clarification about the poster talking about their long term plans (none) and how countries/humans strike back fighting when backed into a corner. I don't know much about the tatical history of the conflict so it's why I asked. Thanks to everyone who responded. :)
 
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Troons are Left fascists. Troons hate Israel. I'd expect no less.
Can we as the uppercase I Internet please stop thinking the word “fascist” means “people I disagree with.”

The word you are looking for is “communists” as they murdered at least ten times the amount of people as fascists and managed to kill more just through starvation with retarded farming policies too.
 
Or the IDF sweeps and clears Gaza, makes it clear it will do the same to their western bank of the Jordan River if any similar antics originate from there, and simply have done with it. The Allies killed far less than 50 million Germans in the Second World War and we haven't heard much from the National Socialists since, despite a lot of boasts and threats.

Stop playing games. Make it clear what happens when Israelis are murdered for no reason.


Show them we mean business.
Capeshit references? Go back to Reddit you fucking hebe.
 
Either way that had to have been wild. Is there any footage of it going down? I saw some before it went down but nothing of it. Wondering if Hamas parachuted in and just went crazy.

From what I've seen, just of the before. Why young people like to party in the desert and a virtual warzone is a mystery to me.

 
Can we as the uppercase I Internet please stop thinking the word “fascist” means “people I disagree with.”

The word you are looking for is “communists” as they murdered at least ten times the amount of people as fascists and managed to kill more just through starvation with retarded farming policies too.

Alternatively, you can stop word policing commonly used terms. They meet the definition of fascist by their inability to accept the democratic process; their desire to force out and attack those they disagree with; and their desire to remove the freedom to speak out and politically fight them. Communism is a socio-economic and cultural ideology. Not all troons are communist, but the majority of them are certainly fascist in behaviour.

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It seems Israel is getting ready to step up and step out. It wouldn't surprise me that if by the end of the week Palestine is occupied completely and crippled. Nations are going to expect answers as to why their citizens are dead after Hamas attacked that music festival, and knowing the sand niggers there is almost certainly a 100% chance that non-Israeli women are currently being held hostage or raped to death.
 
Was the raid "pointless"?
Christ if they couldn't even maintain their offensive for one day and are already retreating they are beyond fucked.
This was fucking pointless.
I hate Hamas too, but let's not engage in cope.
This was their biggest victory yet:
  • They successfully killed 250+ Jews.
  • They successfully terrified millions of Jews.
  • They successfully humiliated the IDF and Israeli intelligence agencies.
  • They successfully took hostages.
Holding territory was obviously never the goal, and it didn't need to be.
So it makes no sense to declare the raid pointless for not doing that.

The tactical value of the hostages

The value of the hostages, in particular, is IMO wildly underestimated by kiwis ITT.

Member' Gilad Shalit? The young IDF recruit who was kidnapped by Hamas in a border raid in 2006?
For years Israel was trying to get him back, to the extent that it dominated and hamstrung Israel's policy towards Gaza.
Eventually, Israel agreed to release a fuckton of captured unrepentant terrorists to get Gilad back in history's most lopsided prisoner swap.

And this time Hamas doesn't have one measly recruit; they apparently kidnapped higher-ranking officers as well as a whole bunch of civilians.

Israel is, like all Western countries, a Libtard Democracy, where politicians have to dance to the media's tune.
And crying family members of kidnapping victims going on TV to beg their government to bring the victims home safely, make it very, very hard for said government to do what needs doing in a war.

Sure, the Israeli government is talking tough now, and promising to eradicate Hamas once and for all.
But in the coming days/weeks I think we might see them cucking over the hostages.
I think in the end, the current "war" will just end up being another round of pro-forma striking military targets in Gaza, that hurt Hamas but fail to remove Hamas from power - like all the past Israeli military operations into Gaza.
 
Israel was already aware of the growing danger so it's baffling that they were surprised by the attack
If you know anything about the Israeli Intelligence Community (Mossad, Aman, and Shin-Bet, collectively) then this honestly isn't as surprising as it is to people not in the know.

The Israelis have all the toys in the world, but they're arrogant control freaks that will ignore even the most obvious signs in front of them that something is wrong. They also get easily distracted by pissy domestic squabbles and drop their eyes on the ball pretty regularly as a result.

This is almost a scene by scene recreation of what happened in the days leading up to the Yom Kippur War in 1973, where Israeli intelligence was warned numerous times by the US, the USSR, agents operating in Egypt and Syria, and even by the King of Jordan directly, that an attack by Egyptian forces was imminent yet they all fell on deaf ears. This all happened largely as a result of deep systemic issues within Israeli intelligence, with the two most glaring being as follows;

  1. They had a very top heavy decision making process where the head of IDF military intelligence, Eli Zeira (an arrogant mid-wit that was convinced no attack was even feasible), had the final say on literally every single intelligence decision in the state, and he chose to do nothing as a result of his biases. I have no insight into the work culture of Israeli intelligence today, but it wouldn't shock me if there has been very little change, or if there was that they've since slipped back into old habits.

  2. The Intelligence Community, and Mossad in particular, is deeply ingrained into the country's civilian government in such an overt fashion that they often get distracted by domestic political drama. This happened in Yom Kippur when Golda Meir became obsessed with tracking down and executing the perpetrators of the Munich Massacre and transferred a lot of intelligence resources into Operation Wrath of God, and away from state security. It would not surprise me at all if a similar thing has happened here with the domestic political turmoil over the judiciary scandal and related protests.
 
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Arabs are genetic failures and should be eliminated from the species. The most fundamental aspect of an arab's DNA is the drive to murder, or revel in death. They slit animal's throats, which is a normal thing for slaughter, but then host festivals dancing in the blood of the slaughtered animals. Any arab related term you put into Google Images will immediately reveal an endless gallery of arabs standing around murdered people or videos of the act (as everyone is well aware).

These are not only isolated incidents with context, it is a deep fundamental part of the arab genome. They NEED to kill, they have a bloodlust which cannot be satiated and is far stronger than most notorious serial killers.

They are untermensch and hopefully one day will be bred out of existence. Else, the entire human species should be ended if they spread too far.
 
So, to clarify, Hamas has no long term plan, just as much destruction as possible because fuck Israel? I assume there's not really much else to do asie from die with honor in combat than survive but be slowly humiliated over time from what one of the previous post said.
Pretty much - they probably have some kind of plan and I would guess outside backing, but I don't think they have a grand long-term strategy. Israel just continuously builds settlements in occupied land, has been for decades, and they refuse to stop. The options are to attack at an opportune moment even if it is a long shot, or to just sit there and take it until your people are outnumbered by American, European, and North African Jews in your ancestral homeland - then you will never be able to outvote the new imported majority on anything. This effectively makes you second-class citizens eeking out an existence after your mud village was bulldozed to make room for a housing development meant for foreigners. The idea that the people being subjected to this wouldn't snap and do crazy destructive shit at some point is mind-bogglingly stupid.
 
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