2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

[MadStan]

Israel simply stopped supplying stuff they didn't say they would stop Egypt from providing shit over the border. Also leadership said they expect to launch a ground assault within 48 hours. They will advance if they encounter resistance blow up the building and repeat.

As long as they don't enforce their will on other countries that's fine and try to close the Rafah entrance OK.

 

[Barry McKockner]

Hamas dun goofed when they attacked that rave. Not even hardcore libs or the most self-hating jews can make up explanations for that. That's also the reason why I think no islamic country will fully support the Palestinians openly regardless of what Israel is going to throw at them.

Maybe they didn't even plan to massacre them and it escalated at some point but now Hamas is basically seen as ISIS. And those optics are too bad even for Iran to handle.

Of course they have an explanation. It's already one of the countervailing narratives:

A Siege on Gaza? Oh that's not gonna work.

What are you going to do, starve them all to death, deny medical supplies and water to hundreds of thousands of kids unless what? They turn on their parents?

Hamas will have plenty of food and supplies for themselves and gladly watch the hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians starve to death. This is not a strategy that will get bleeding heart sympathy and the International community can not back a siege like this.

Try again Israel.

So you're telling me hamas will allow the future generation of fighters to die of starvation, while also making sure there's no shields left for them to hide behind? Great strategy!

Also, not concerned for the offspring of adults who not only care that little about their children as to want to bring this upon them, but are also likely to indoctrinate them to be the same extreme as they are. Sorry, not sorry.

 

[Puff]

I'm seeing a lot of posts about Israel bombing mosques and even an ambulance. I see this is people's first time dealing with Palestine who've used ambulances to transport troops and using mosques as weapons depots or command centers isn't exactly unique to Palestine. It's just like the people they use as meat shields.

 

[Evilronald]

I'm seeing the inside job sentiment from alot of people at work here too.
I think its unlikely they orchestrated this, someone on the thread pointed out that they might have expected a smaller controlled attack and were caught off guard, and that sounds more likely to me considering how we haven't taken Hamas seriously for years.
what I think people aren't accounting for is how fucking retarded & soft the current IDF is, idunno when this chick served but the IDF from 10 years ago is not the IDF now. I saw it first hand when I served from 2016-2019, just complete fucking retards running the show like a special needs kindergarten.

Judging by how things go here in the US when the glowies “let things happen” (ie the FBI not investigating numerous mass shooters and the 9/11 hijackers when they should have), I wouldn’t be surprised if they had intended to let it happen to consolidate more power for themselves.

People in intel agencies are all sociopaths and they likely see this as an opportunity to get more funding and autonomy. The deep state never wastes its chances to seize more power. Additionally: the far right government in power can use it as a distraction and push the “reforms” they want when no one is looking and push out more Palestinians and take their land. The settlers always need new places to take over, and tens of thousands of dead or displaced Palestinians is a great opportunity. Plus if you look at the civilian casualties for the Palestinians, the IDF is showing 0 restraint and leveling whole blocks with 0 regard for the people who have nothing to do with Hamas.

 

[Smashed & Slamed]

I think too many people are putting too much weight on the shock value of both the footage and the actual killings at the festival. When Bataclan happened you had the right all over Europe claiming this will be it and times will be changing. And nothing happened.
Most of the people have formulated their opinion on this long ago and they will not change their mind no matter what they hear or see. This also goes for the other side. Nobody will change their minds seeing Israel dropping WP on orphanages.

 

[White Trash Motorsport]

Isreal has a big demographics problem. Atm, there’s a pretty even split between Isreal and the West Bank etc at around 7m inhabitants each, and both are seeing growth, but…the growth on the Isreali side is mostly Ultra Orthodox, to the point where they’ll be about 1/3 of the population in a couple of decades. Many Ultra Orthodox are exempt from military service and are basically welfare queens in big hats, as well as forming a significant population in occupied areas. To put it bluntly, however the current conflict goes, Isreal is pretty fucked.

 

[Barry McKockner]

I'm seeing a lot of posts about Israel bombing mosques and even an ambulance. I see this is people's first time dealing with Palestine who've used ambulances to transport troops and using mosques as weapons depots or command centers isn't exactly unique to Palestine. It's just like the people they use as meat shields.

This is how it always goes. Hamas uses places like schools, hospitals, mosques, etc.... as military assets because they know if anyone hits it, the narrative will be "Look, Israel is bombing a hospital!"

You're dealing with people who are purposefully doing everything the Geneva convention put an end to because they know their opponent will be blasted if they do the same.

 

[TotalWeenDeath]

I mean out of all things to feed soldiers, pizza isn't the worst option. You got protein, calcium, and carbs. It'll keep you going for a while tbh. But seriously, who the fuck is running a Papa John's in a active warzone??

idiots, people with balls of steel and idiots with balls of steel

 

[im5!XxhO]

I think too many people are putting too much weight on the shock value of both the footage and the actual killings at the festival. When Bataclan happened you had the right all over Europe claiming this will be it and times will be changing. And nothing happened.
Most of the people have formulated their opinion on this long ago and they will not change their mind no matter what they hear or see. This also goes for the other side. Nobody will change their minds seeing Israel dropping WP on orphanages.

Different narrative though. In Europe the claim is that terrorist are just isolated cases. The videos could not disprove that narrative.

In this case the narrative was that the poor Palestinian are fighting the evil settlers. That narrative was crushed by mowing down festival goers and Asian farm workers.

 

[Johan Schmidt]

Legit though. How much would you be able to sell that for?

Probably you wouldn't be able to. Weapons like that will be wanted by the military intelligence, so they can do forensics and hopefully ID the missile maker, and where they are being made, and from what, so future purchases of components can be disrupted.

 

[William Tyndale]

Isreal has a big demographics problem. Atm, there’s a pretty even split between Isreal and the West Bank etc at around 7m inhabitants each, and both are seeing growth, but…the growth on the Isreali side is mostly Ultra Orthodox, to the point where they’ll be about 1/3 of the population in a couple of decades. Many Ultra Orthodox are exempt from military service and are basically welfare queens in big hats, as well as forming a significant population in occupied areas. To put it bluntly, however the current conflict goes, Isreal is pretty fucked.

The ultra Orthodox Jews always make me laugh. I imagine David running around with long sideburns and protesting against god when he has to go fight his enemies.

 

[MadStan]

Now Israel refers to the Palestine state as a people of "animals". Imagine what it would be like for a race of people who think they are superior to suddenly decide we will refer to an entire group as animals and make their slaughter due to their inferior genetics and beliefs as worthy of extermination? Sound familiar by brethren?

Israel should know. And perhaps they now know they are no better than anyone else who has the upper hand seeing as they've been at both ends of the spectrum, and learned of nothing.

Palestine is nothing more than a version of "Escape from NY". A prison the size of a city, and they wonder why the inmates who can't leave, can't have anything suddenly decided to have a riot against their captures.

It's what Hitler would have done with the Jews if he could have convinced the International Community to go along with it in leu of war. And this is how Israel plays the card.

 

[Cpl. Long Dong Silver]

Some new graphic footage of a Hamas rocket attack on an Israeli settlement

Spoiler: Warning NSFW

 

[Catmannjew]

I gotta say, having a rave full of drugs, scantily clad women, shitty music, and zonked out rave bros on the border of an enclave of pissed off radicalized Islamists who want to violently erase this shit was probably not a great idea.

I am some pages behind so forgive me if this was asked or answered. Something that has been bothering me has been; who the fuck approved a permit for this festival and why were they not told to fuck off and told to find a place that was not on the boarder.

 

[Johan Schmidt]

She sounds so fake, holy shit. The dramatic voice breaking, the pauses, the tears. I mean the footage is very disturbing, no argument there, but you'd expect news anchors to be either made of sterner stuff or better at faking emotions. Maybe I'm just cynical, I dunno.

I had forgotten how manipulative and over dramatic MSM is lol. "This shock attack that has shaken life, as we know it!" No, it has not. It has shaken life as Palestine and Israel know it. Australia is unaffected.

 

[Barry McKockner]

Israel is pushing at the Lebanon border as well:

 

[EyeGuy]

I'm gonna stop posting airstrike vids unless there's something unique about them, because there's too many happening and at this point, I'm getting tired of making effortposts since there's been a major janny failure which has resulted in 95% of the thread being useless politisperging. Anyway, this time a Gazan influencer had to take his phone off the stand in order to capture the footage. Very unfortunate:

Couple flew back from Thailand to get married before the husband heads off to the front:

To address the issue about Haredim not serving that I've seen brought up: it's clear that our political ecosystem is going to change after this, including Bibi going, and although the country is united right now, there is going to be zero tolerance for the Haredi political representation if they try to duck the issue going forward. I say political representation, because contrary to said politispergs who don't speak any language other than muttmerican and whose only source of information is retards on /pol, a huge portion of the chareidi population, especially youth from Mizrahi and Lithuanian backgrounds, are quite integrated with Israeli society. They don't know Yiddish, they're patriotic, many have advanced degrees, and they are absolutely feeling incredibly guilty about not being on the front lines right now. All the lolbertarian hot takes about "Ackshually mass conscription is unnecessary bro" and "a smaller, professional army is what we need" have been dealt a death blow.

 

[King George III]

Most recent Palestinian death toll & wounded count.

 

[David Brown]

Maybe it's because I'm a newfag but I'm shocked to see how many Israelis there are using this website, even more so that there are apparently actual IDF soldiers or people at risk of going to the front lines in Gaza. Try not to squander my tax dollars by getting a zero KDR please.

 

[Loony Tunes]

Call me retarded but I’m at work and can’t read through this thread quickly as badly as I want to. Can someone give me a small summery about why people are celebrating Palestine doing this?