I'm not Xtian but I agree with this. Biblical scholars and others with real schooling on the subject are usually smart and informative, regardless of your views on the bible or Christianity itself. Think of preachers like Jack Scalfani's Murder Church guy, that is self taught quality.
Basically. Hence why your average Skeptic doesn't pick on them, but rather, on the self-educated preachers who are usually easy targets. It's the same reason why the same Skeptic crowd later came after the Third-Wave Feminists; most of them know nothing outside of just feminist propaganda in college, and so, they made for juicy targets to demonize since most people would already agree with the Skeptics' objections to modern feminism.
It's basically picking on the class clown for being a class clown; it makes for a good laugh among your peers, but at the end, you've learned nothing and accomplished nothing. Which explains why some of these Skeptics tried to jump to the Breadtube bandwagon to try and profit off of the SJW fad, even though your average SJW probably sees these Skeptics as scum. SJWs are not the forgiving kind. They already don't believe in forgiving members of their own side for making "mistakes". (See: Lindsay Ellis and her comments on films that take inspiration from Asian culture.) They would never forgive former Skeptics who used to take the piss out of their beloved Third-Wave Feminism.
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it's very funny that feminism is so toothless now that every single thing women do has to have a male equivalent. lefty spaces are just the new hobbies for men. im also still just pissed off at how shaun is such a naked partisan. multiple hour long videos on how evil TERFs are, one posted on the exact same day as mermaids getting outed for kiddie diddling. they are terminally online enough to research their enemies to draw unnatural conclusions about jk rowling but wont do a minute of research into charities half their friends work for.
This whole shitfest between Breadtube and the TERFs really shows Leftism for what it is: the blind eating the blind. What is considered Progressive and Leftist in decades before becomes the new conservative or oppressive thing in the eyes of the Left, as it constantly evolves, it eats its own. The people they call TERFs now were once the vanguard of Leftist Feminism, used to bash down the door against right-wing patriarchy and family values that dominated the 1950s and 1980s. But by the time of the 1990s, the Left needed to present a family-friendly face after Reagan and George HW Bush won the elections, so they ditched said feminists and replaced them with the Clinton power couple and presented a more center-left face, although some parts of the Left continued to flirt with radical feminism. And yes, these radical feminists hated the shit out of trannies, the same way the old-school Commies of the Cold War saw the gays as bourgeoisie degenerates.
The Second-Wave Feminism that the TERFs championed called for displays of eroticism to destroy the patriarchy, but that didn't have the intended effect, as it just made men horny, but unwilling to dispense with things like family values or man's role in the household. They continued to believe that they should naturally lead. So the Third-Wave Feminists did away with and condemned the eroticism once promoted by the TERFs and the Second-Wave Feminists, and they plagiarized the Christian Right and promoted a more puritanical stance on sexualization of female characters in media, condemning them, not because it's explicit behavior that is improper in public media, but because it was pleasing to men, seeing "male fantasy" as something to be condemned.
This was rather odd, since by the time Third-Wave Feminism emerged, we were still getting off the Twilight and 50 Shades of Grey fads, where we saw women get off on things like strong, domineering men with biceps and pecks. So male fantasies were off the table, but female fantasies, not so much. I remember watching Spoony's rather negative reviews of the Twilight movies, along with Instig8tive Journalism's original videos on Anita Sarkeesian, around the same time in the early 2010s. The tail end of the Twilight/50 Shades era coincided with the start of Third Wave Feminism.
Then the Third-Wave Feminists began to support trans people, which was the main point of separation between them and the Second-Wave Feminists who saw trans people as a mockery of womanhood. See, the Second-Wave Feminists, just like the First Wave, still had some small notions of traditional womanhood buried deep within their propagandizing about how men were oppressive, and they saw trans women as men mocking women and taking their identity. Hence why they despised trans "women" since they believed that it was the ultimate mockery inflicted upon them by the patriarchy; that the female identity was something that men could steal.
However, the newer, LGBT-friendly Third-Wave Feminists saw trans people as oppressed by the same patriarchy that keeps them down. They began to see trans women as real women, not as men. Especially when the Left NEEDED the LGBTQ votes; this then caused them to further go away from the Second Wave Feminists' ideology and embrace the trannies as their own. This is what caused the Feminist Civil War between the TERFs who hated trans people, and the modern, Third-Wave Feminists who accepted trans women who were once men as women. The Left went full Order 66 and began to actively chase out the very same feminists who, in the past decade or two, were their vanguards. Basically, imagine the modern Left as clone troopers, and the TERFs as the Jedi, during the eve of Order 66, and you get the picture.
This should be a lesson to the Breadtubers and any would-be Leftists; you're only there to be used, and once you're used up, they'll gleefully toss you aside as what you once supported as leftist and progressive gets condemned as being part of the Neo-Masculine Hierarchy and sexist, or regressive, especially when the modern feminists' censorship tactics begin to mirror that of the Right in ages past. It wouldn't surprise me at all when in the future, you might see some future brand of feminism taking notes from the Second Wave and promote sexy chicks, traditional feminine/family values, or hating trans people, especially when one considers the fact that all the Asians, Africans, and Latinos who are coming in would certainly prefer that over the LGBTQ stuff that modern feminists preach, especially when the Blacks, Asians, and Latinos prefer sexy chicks in anime/manga over the strong proud LGBTQ queens in modern comics.
