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I'm not. So long as he's written well, he can do well as a villain. Imagine the Solo twins facing off against him.
No, bringing back Darth Maul was always a stupid decision, especially in the context of FiloniWars where they had Savage. If Maul has to be used at all, he has to be a pre-TPM character setting up the pins for why the Trade Federation would risk war with the Republic like assassinating Nute Gunray's former boss or killing more hawkish senators that want to form their own private armies.
 
No, bringing back Darth Maul was always a stupid decision, especially in the context of FiloniWars where they had Savage. If Maul has to be used at all, he has to be a pre-TPM character setting up the pins for why the Trade Federation would risk war with the Republic like assassinating Nute Gunray's former boss or killing more hawkish senators that want to form their own private armies.
I seem to remember Lucas wanting to use Maul in some sequel plan as a different kind of bad guy; more of a crime syndicate rather than an evil empire sort of thing. That might've been interesting.
 
I seem to remember Lucas wanting to use Maul in some sequel plan as a different kind of bad guy; more of a crime syndicate rather than an evil empire sort of thing. That might've been interesting.

He was the big bad in Lucas' sequel trilogy I believe.

Lucasfilm should just take the DC animated route at this stage and do else worlds or whatever they call it. Choose an animated style that isn't autistic like clone wars and just adapt different versions of the sequels. Do the EU. Do what George wanted. Hell even do more Rey shit. It doesn't matter at this stage. They have fucked up so bad just do whatever.

For all the claims of continuity they are doing TV shows which literally a handful of people know the continuity for. So it doesn't fucking matter.
 
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I seem to remember Lucas wanting to use Maul in some sequel plan as a different kind of bad guy; more of a crime syndicate rather than an evil empire sort of thing. That might've been interesting.
And that was still a bad idea. Normies think he died in TPM because getting bissected does that to people.
 
Remember he was back in Solo and people were pleased by that teaser.

I would still be more excited by a sequel to Solo, TV series or movie than the Rey film. Or basically anything besides the next season of Andor.
These are the same people that said "He Vader'd!" Their opinions can be discarded.
 
And that was still a bad idea. Normies think he died in TPM because getting bissected does that to people.
There were more than a few works even before TCW which had Darth Maul survive. I seem to remember that Darth Vader even killed a perfect clone of the man that was made by Sith sorcery, since a bunch of Sith cultists believed Vader was too tainted by Jedi ways to be a proper Sith apprentice, so they revived Maul via magic cloning and had Maul try to kill and replace Vader. Another story had robo-Maul fight Obi-Wan Kenobi on Tatooine, which is what Rebels decided to copy.

That, and having a criminal empire be the main evil force would've mixed things up in Star Wars. It was always just large corporate armies or evil empires ruled by psychic Space Nazis, a criminal angle similar to Star Wars: Bounty Hunter would've been a nice change of pace, since you can't just send all the boys to go blow the bad guys up since they've inter-mixed with the peoples of the galaxy. Imagine something similar to Jango's quest to eradicate the Bando Gora, but with a Jedi protagonist going through the more seedier parts of the SW galaxy that the great powers tend to ignore.
 
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As the New Republic showed, that diverse and inclusive army was absolute trash on every level, bureaucratically, militarily, logistically, and technologically. Regular people let the First Order rise because they didn't care about the New Republic and Leia openly divorced herself from them by forming the Resistance because of their rampant corruption, not to mention General Hera going rogue for her own selfish purposes.
Senator (future Grand Moff) Trump makes excellent points, he has my vote in the next Imperial election cycle.
 
Not that people haven't tried.

Lucas consistently portrayed the Mandos as scum; the TCW warrior Mandos (early in the show's history when Lucas still had some influence) are Space Jihadists who kill innocent people and terrorize civilians, a far cry from the heroes that Filoni will turn them into later. Whereas the movie-verse Fett Mandos are guns for hire who work with Sith Lords and criminal scum; they have no problems trying to kill innocent people, (LOL Padme) and always die like chumps. (Boba vs. blind Han, Jango vs. Windu)

Revan took down the Mandos at their best, when they had an empire of their own, turning them into a civilization of bandits and has-beens, and Kreia spends a short while shitting on them.

SWTOR had them lose to pirates and grunts in the lore videos, while the game proper just has them be mauve-shirts for the Republic characters to smack around.

Legacy had them get annihilated in the Battle of Botajef by a bunch of Stormtroopers, dudes that the Empire scraped off the streets and handed plastic armor and guns to. This is the last proper battle the Mandalorians have in SW Legends, which means their military history as a whole ends in shame.

But I suppose making the titular Mando go full "MUH KWEEN" did the trick, eh? Nothing like reminding them of another bad series to make them lose their taste for the Mandalorians. That probably did more damage than Jack Black and Lizzo. People were interested in seeing their hero, Mando, become king of his own people, and he chickens out and passes it over to a former terrorist who already failed at ruling multiple times.

Goes to show how an awesome armor design can survive everything.

Except modern feminism.
At this point I think Furloni did as much damage to the Star Wars Brand as Iger.

Rian Johnson was like a shotgun blast to the chest.
It was painful, cruel but mercifully quick.

Feloni is like a poisoned cake. Starts off sweet at first but then the sourness begins, the belly hurts like a mf and your body begins to die. It is NOT a merciful way to go.
These are the same people that said "He Vader'd!" Their opinions can be discarded.

The cringe that line gives me. And to think these are the people that would have called us dorks for liking Star wars 20 years ago.

This franchise going mainstream was a fatal mistake
AI-powered shitposting humor is going to be the YTPs of the future. It's already beginning to take off. They're going to be as common as YTPs were in 2008. I imagine, however, that some actors will sue to prevent their voices from being used.


YTPs took more effort tho. Sentence mixing can be surprisingly tough depending how well you want it to sound.
As the New Republic showed, that diverse and inclusive army was absolute trash on every level, bureaucratically, militarily, logistically, and technologically. Regular people let the First Order rise because they didn't care about the New Republic and Leia openly divorced herself from them by forming the Resistance because of their rampant corruption, not to mention General Hera going rogue for her own selfish purposes.

Feels like all they have been doing all this time is to justify how the New Republic could have allowed The First Order to rise to the point of weaponizing an entire planet.
Not only that but they also have been working hard as to show how incompent and corrupt the new republic is in ways that not even the old one was so we dont feel bad to see them go.

Maybe the "The New-er Republic" wont be such a shitshow.

Christ, what a mess the galaxy has become.
 
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Feels like all they have been doing all this time is to justify how the New Republic could have allowed The First Order to rise to the point of weaponizing an entire planet.
Not only that but they also have been working hard as to show how incompent and corrupt the new republic is in ways that not even the old one was so we dont feel bad to see them go.

Maybe the "The New-er Republic" wont be such a shitshow.

Christ, what a mess the galaxy has become.
I think the idea they want is to show how Imperial Loyalists subverted the entire system, but the good guy government is just as willing to struggle session former imperial scientists in literal Oceanic ways while their bureaucrats keep saying that they're just too busy and overstretched to help elsewhere while their "good guy" generals are vain and pursue their own agendas. Lefties fundamentally do not understand government, so the society they depict is inherently dysfunctional. The difference between Lucas and them is that he did it on purpose for a narrative that makes sense, despite what Gen Xers keep saying.
 
Senator (future Grand Moff) Trump makes excellent points, he has my vote in the next Imperial election cycle.
He will Make the Empire Great Again.

Rian Johnson was like a shotgun blast to the chest.
It was painful, cruel but mercifully quick.

Feloni is like a poisoned cake. Starts off sweet at first but then the sourness begins, the belly hurts like a mf and your body begins to die. It is NOT a merciful way to go.
Feloni is a passionate fan that made one good show but then got thrust into "Fixing the franchise" which he can't do. No one can fix the sequel trilogy unless LucasArts straight up retcons everything related to the Sequels.
 
I think the idea they want is to show how Imperial Loyalists subverted the entire system, but the good guy government is just as willing to struggle session former imperial scientists in literal Oceanic ways while their bureaucrats keep saying that they're just too busy and overstretched to help elsewhere while their "good guy" generals are vain and pursue their own agendas. Lefties fundamentally do not understand government, so the society they depict is inherently dysfunctional. The difference between Lucas and them is that he did it on purpose for a narrative that makes sense, despite what Gen Xers keep saying.
Funny enough, they portrayed the ISB in Andor as somewhat competent. Dedra presents a smidge of info that points to her theory being correct, and her bosses let her have free reign, as opposed to Hera, whose bosses brush off an entire starship crew getting slaughtered by two Dark Jedi, several SSD hyperdrive cores getting stolen, and two NR pilots dying at the hands of Thrawn's agents when the hyperspace ring jumped right in front of the NR squadron. Dedra had a smidge of evidence that she was correct, and her Imperial bosses placed their faith in her. Hera had a mountain of evidence, and her New Republic bosses laugh it off as if it was nothing, and if it wasn't for that last-minute letter from Leia, she'd have lost every bit of power she had.

So just as in Legends, the Disneyverse version of the Empire is far more competent than its successor. The Rebels really would've done better if they kept the Empire, but just replaced Palpatine with Leia.

Feloni is a passionate fan that made one good show but then got thrust into "Fixing the franchise" which he can't do. No one can fix the sequel trilogy unless LucasArts straight up retcons everything related to the Sequels.
Even Filoni is beholden to the ST. The ST is the thing that fucked the franchise in the eyes of many fans. All Filoni is doing is removing attention from it, but it's still canon and it still snaps the franchise in half like a kit-kat bar.
 
Even Filoni is beholden to the ST. The ST is the thing that fucked the franchise in the eyes of many fans. All Filoni is doing is removing attention from it, but it's still canon and it still snaps the franchise in half like a kit-kat bar.
True, although personally I think Episode VII was a shaky but decent foundation to build off of. Of course, Rian Johnson didn't see it that way and nuked the franchise with a hydrogen bomb.
 
True, although personally I think Episode VII was a shaky but decent foundation to build off of. Of course, Rian Johnson didn't see it that way and nuked the franchise with a hydrogen bomb.
They could've done anything after TFA. It was just the intro course to get the OT fanboys who whined about Lucas back on board. They chose to profit off of SJWs, because at the time, SJWs were all the rage on Twitter, and Disney thought the average bloke thought like them.

To be fair, I've seen enough of the world to know that neither the extreme SJW left nor the Trumpist right have the people behind them. Most folks just want to be left alone and see the culture war as a background affair. It's only the keyboard warriors and college kids who really care about that shit. Instead of appealing to either side of the political aisle, Disney could've done better by handing the reins over to Michael Bay and telling him to make shit explode while having Luke kick ass., Throw in some babes in metal bikinis and you're good to go. At least that kind of shit would sell well in China and be good for a laugh State-side.
 
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