Official Kiwi Farms Man-Hate Thread

[Big Miss Steak]

But other men rarely ever step in and tell other men that they should cool it with the woman-hate. Men don't generally police each others behavior and let other men get away with all sorts of horrible things. Even men who are domestic abusers, cheaters and rapists are rarely disavowed by their guy friends. Men very much have a "Not my problem, not getting involved with another man's business" attitude towards men who are awful to women.

The only time men shit on incels online is to feel superior, not because they actually think that what they say about women is a problem, in fact they will still agree with what incels say about women but tell them ways to hide how much they hate women as to manipulate a woman into having sex with them. The only guy I have ever seen give other men proper shit for being awful and calling out problematic behavior in male communities is Null and he gets so much shit for it and called a simp traitor by other men for very mild feminist takes. Dyn also, but everything he says is disregarded by other men as "trolling".

Men policing other men's behavior is so rare. I've seen it happen, like, twice? My brother and his friends iced out a friend who had hit his girlfriend after they called him a womanbeater (lol). My uncle has tried to have a "man to man" talk with the aforementioned alcoholic cousin. Many times over, I've seen guys hand-wave away awful behavior from other men because it's "not my business." I had one male friend tell me that if he saw a man hit a woman in public he wouldn't get involved unless it was a homicidal beatdown.

I unironically think that forced military service would be beneficial to men. it would teach them to be fucking respectful and responsible.

Stop simping over military men. They are brainwashed retards at best and sociopathic, power hungry ladder-climbers at worst. They rape their sisters in arms. They use stray dogs and cats as target practice. They cheat on their spouses. They are the most horrific gossips and backstabbers you can imagine. They are well accustomed to seeing other people they don't like/agree with as inhuman. They have spent 90% of their time in the military on "hurry up and wait," which means they get in shape and get trained and then sit around doing nothing but playing video games and watching porn. The military brainwashes them into identifying an "authority" and an "enemy," and they will make these figures if they cannot find them. The military-industrial complex (for contractors get wrapped up in this too) takes men and dials their tribalism up to 11 and twists it to their purposes. Most of these men, the instant they are out of the military and no longer have every waking moment dictated by an authority, turn into absolute messes. Some of them have good fitness habits and that's all you can say about them.

It's fine to admire the look of a man in uniform, but don't be fooled. I've worked around a lot of vets and would consider only one of them to be genuinely heroic or a "good guy." Another guy I knew saw a lot of action and you would be tempted to think he was a hero, but he was one of the most corrupt and slimy people I've met.

Women: It's fucked up that women are on the receiving end of
sexual abuse during wars

Twitter groyper/nazi moids: I bet you weren't even raped!!

War makes people do horrible things, so one should not be at all surprised that rape is happening right now. But there's a big difference between acknowledging that people do horrific things during war and saying "soldiers are tired and entitled to a little pussy." Deranged.

And also, "The women least likely to be raped are bemoaning it the most"?
I hate this rape-as-a-compliment BS. It's like saying getting mugged is a compliment to your fashion sense. No.

I wonder if any Israeli soldiers were sodomized by Hamas (or vice versa) and if they saw that as a compliment in their final moments.

 

[Lidl Drip]

Couple based lesbians react to the Trans Conservatives vs Trans Liberals . The first question is "It is a safety concern for trans women to share a female restroom" doesn't need to be watched by the ladies here, but it's been entertaining so far and should be required watching for all males who still don't get female only spaces:

Glad to see more people waking up to how dangerous it is to errode women's spaces, but they still don't fully get it since they seem to buy into the "true trans women are fine tho because they got woman-brains" bullshit. There is no such thing as a man born with a "woman-brain". There are no "true trans". There are just trannies who are slightly better at hiding their disgusting fetish and others that are entirely open about it. NO MAN has any business being in a woman's restroom, no matter how much plastic surgery he has had, no matter how much make-up he slaps on his face in an attempt to "pass".

The whole bathroom issue just boils down to male entitlement, the troons main argument is "Well it's dangerous for trannies to go into men's restroom cause men will attack them". So WOMEN need to let rapist men into our bathrooms instead???? Male safety > women's safety. Men feel entitled to a safe space amongst women instead of calling out the issue of MALE VIOLENCE. Ugh, so frustrating. It's not women's problem that men attack and rape each other, sort yourselves out. Ofc that is still just a smokescreen since the real reason they want to come into the women's restroom is cause it is sexually exciting for them.

 

[TruffleSpark]

Probably, yes. There's a pretty well documented phenomenon of soldiers having bouts of extreme, predatory lust immediately after traumatic near-death experiences that has been used to justify war-rape since at least the 30 Years War (and probably even earlier). If I remember right it was also accounted for in directions on how to house and treat gladiators in ancient Rome.

There's something called the Duke of Malborough effect. Which is named for John Churchill the first Earl of Malborough. Apparently after he got home from winning a big battle he would be extra horny and according to his wife that is when they would have the best sex. So a big day of killing people apparently enhances the male sex drive. Though at least in this case all parties involved were consenting. Richard Dawkins talks about this more in the context of men getting horny after experiencing a victory of some kind. Like winning a sports competition or something, so it's not specific to doing something violent. But then again, what are these competitions if not simulated battles?

Can't say I've ever experienced anything like this personally. So I don't know how much of a basis in reality this theory has. But then again, I've never defeated the armies of France at the Battle of Blenheim. Anyway, more disturbing facts about male sexuality, I'm sorry.

The whole bathroom issue just boils down to male entitlement, the troons main argument is "Well it's dangerous for trannies to go into men's restroom cause men will attack them". So WOMEN need to let rapist men into our bathrooms instead???? Male safety > women's safety. Men feel entitled to a safe space amongst women instead of calling out the issue of MALE VIOLENCE. Ugh, so frustrating. It's not women's problem that men attack and rape each other, sort yourselves out. Ofc that is still just a smokescreen since the real reason they want to come into the women's restroom is cause it is sexually exciting for them.

Isaac Uncooked said that even when he was trans identified he didn't feel comfortable using the women's bathroom. And during several years of being trans identified he never once felt unsafe using a male bathroom. So according to him, the troons talking about being unsafe in a male bathroom are either lying or have neuroticized themselves into an irrational fear. Ironically I think he actually was one of the "trutrans" people who was doing it for non fetishistic reasons, and as such felt less desire to violate women's boundaries than other troons because it wasn't sexually exciting for him to do so. So even among troons the ones who most want access to single sex spaces are probably the ones who least deserve it.

 

[Lidl Drip]

Isaac Uncooked

This guy?





The crazy schizo tranny that got Null banned from twitter and sent him a million DMs about wanting to be his "trans gf"? I remember him reading these DMs on MATI, it was very funny. I knew he "detransitioned" and then "retransitioned" and then "detransitioned" again a couple of times because he is really really desperate to become internet famous. Please stop thinking that there are "good ones" amongst troons.

 

[Stan]

I wonder if any Israeli soldiers were sodomized by Hamas (or vice versa) and if they saw that as a compliment in their final moments.

I think all men should be forced to serve a mandatory term in jail or the military so they can develop a fear of being raped by other men. Then maybe they won't condescend to women about rape.

Richard Dawkins talks about this more in the context of men getting horny after experiencing a victory of some kind. Like winning a sports competition or something, so it's not specific to doing something violent. But then again, what are these competitions if not simulated battles?

I suppose I'm wrong about this, then. Men do get unbearably horny after killing things and/or conquesting

And during several years of being trans identified he never once felt unsafe using a male bathroom. So according to him, the troons talking about being unsafe in a male bathroom are either lying or have neuroticized themselves into an irrational fear. Ironically I think he actually was one of the "trutrans" people who was doing it for non fetishistic reasons,

The tiresome thing about the bathroom debate is you can just end-run it by putting a single family bathroom in your gym or school or whatever institution you have. Checkmate, troons.

 

[TruffleSpark]

This guy?

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The crazy schizo tranny that got Null banned from twitter and sent him a million DMs about wanting to be his "trans gf"? I remember him reading these DMs on MATI, it was very funny. I knew he "detransitioned" and then "retransitioned" and then "detransitioned" again a couple of times because he is really really desperate to become internet famous. Please stop thinking that there are "good ones" amongst troons.

For the record here he is where is at these days.

It's not going to bring Null's twitter account back I guess. Maybe he's just gone from grifting one audience to grifting another. But most of his recent content is him going after "the good ones", which, good, someone should. Whether his reasons for doing so are righteous or selfish it's still good that he's doing it.

 

[Lidl Drip]

For the record here is where is at these days.
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It's not going to bring Null's twitter account back I guess. Maybe he's just gone from grifting one audience to grifting another. But most of his recent content is him going after "the good ones", which, good, someone should. Whether his reasons for doing so are righteous or selfish it's still good that he's doing it.
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Yeah this dude just seems like a grifter to me, there aren't very many mtftm detransitioners so it's a good market for him, he gets shilled on here and lolcow farm sometimes, so I guess he found his niche. I still know him as a crazy schizo tranny who tried to do #DropKiwifarms way before Keffals and also as the crazy guy who dated Narcissa Wright. I doubt he has changed his true colors, he is extremely mentally ill and bipolar.

 

[12345]

Please stop thinking that there are "good ones" amongst troons.

Legit question: Does troons cover transsexuals or just transgenders?

 

[Lidl Drip]

Legit question: Does troons cover transsexuals or just transgenders?

Pretty sure transgender is just newspeak for transsexual (which is now a bad word that you are not allowed to say btw). It's the same thing as far as I am concerned.

 

[Salty Squid]

Legit question: Does troons cover transsexuals or just transgenders?

Originally, troon just covered members of and notorious figures associated with SomethingAwful that happened to be trans, being a portmanteau of "trans" and "goon".

By now people use it in pretty much the same vein as tranny, which can apply to both pre- and post-snipsnap men in dresses. Technically to FTMs also, but let's be real, when you hear "tranny/troon" you almost immediately think of a man in a shitty wig with poorly done make-up and a way too small dress that perfectly shows off his pervert boner bulge.

 

[Mayhem]

Legit question: Does troons cover transsexuals or just transgenders?

The term “troon” originally comes from the trannies at Something Awful - they were “trans goons” or “troons.” They called themselves that; we did not make it up. Here at KF a troon is almost always a AGP-type MTF. FTMs are pooners here and Aiden/Gayden et al at LCF.

Within the troon population, there is a distinction amongst some between transsexual and transgender. Truscum or “true trans” types may often refer to themselves as transsexuals because they move from one binary sex to the other - male to female or female to male.

ETA: The “slurs” for troons and pooners are banned on Ovarit and other radical feminist sites, so you’ll see TIM for “trans-identified male” and TIF for “trans-identified female” instead.

 

[Kiwiballs]

Fuck I was raped.
When he finally fell asleep I ran out and went down the road to another unit where someone I met once resided. He let me in, I told him what happened. He told me "you are not good looking enough to rape."

The real fucked up part?

I was more mad about his slighting my appearance than his dismissal of my rape - now ain't that a bitch?

It's fucking insidious how we allow these morons to diminish our self-perceptions.

You are all gorgeous, kiwisisters! Never let them tell you otherwise.

I mean look, that fucking autistic borderline sociopath who told you that after you came running to him for help needs to get slapped silly.
Guys usually have a type and rape is rarely about looks anyway which that retard was too much a moron to understand that.

But let's talk serious. I peeked into your make-up thread here and by god it's complicated. I love that you ladies seek out beauty. It's almost a science turned into art. But let's be clear here. You women are more vindictive towards each other when it comes to looks than almost any guy. Further more you'll say quaint shit like "you're all gorgeous" in public while you talk shit behind each others backs.


We're generalizing here. Not all women, certainly not all the time. But many enough, often enough.
Many of you will claim that you don't get "pretty for you" (us) and that you "like to wear outfits because they look good on me" (you). Although an obvious half-lie, that kind of talk is perhaps indicative of the deeper issue.

You women push each other further than we push you. Which is perhaps why you got mad at the wrong part of that comment too.
You base too much of your value on looks and then pretend you don't to also gain social points. It's like a game. A game where almost all of you are losing a little bit of your sanity - and us guys too who have to deal with this in relationships and guesswork what you want us to say all the time.

 

[fake farts]

https://youtu.be/cAtg4rGDvwI

How the fuck do grown men not know this. My mom taught me this when I was a tiny girl. Break the seal, easy peasy, Japanesy. Truly, males are the most high IQ sex.

 

[Big Miss Steak]

But let's talk serious. I peeked into your make-up thread here and by god it's complicated. I love that you ladies seek out beauty. It's almost a science turned into art. But let's be clear here. You women are more vindictive towards each other when it comes to looks than almost any guy. Further more you'll say quaint shit like "you're all gorgeous" in public while you talk shit behind each others backs.

We're generalizing here. Not all women, certainly not all the time. But many enough, often enough.
Many of you will claim that you don't get "pretty for you" (us) and that you "like to wear outfits because they look good on me" (you). Although an obvious half-lie, that kind of talk is perhaps indicative of the deeper issue.

You women push each other further than we push you. Which is perhaps why you got mad at the wrong part of that comment too.
You base too much of your value on looks and then pretend you don't to also gain social points. It's like a game. A game where almost all of you are losing a little bit of your sanity - and us guys too who have to deal with this in relationships and guesswork what you want us to say all the time.

"Women tear each other down more than men tear women down" is a myth. I have never seen a woman say anything half as vile about women as men say about women, and nowhere near half as often. Shittalking and gossip are not exclusive to women either; let's not pretend that plenty of men don't act nice to each other's faces and then complain about their friends and coworkers behind closed doors. Let us not forget that this is a gossip forum mostly populated by men.

There is nothing wrong with a woman taking pride in her appearance. Plenty of women just like makeup and clothes. Plenty of men also judge women who wear too much or too little makeup. These things are not mutually exclusive.

"You base too much of your value on looks." The only people I have ever seen reduce any woman to just her looks, or even to base most of her value on her looks, are men.

"...us guys too who have to deal with this in relationships and guesswork what you want us to say all the time." You will get no pity for not knowing the basics of healthy relationships and communication in this thread.

 

[Stan]

You women are more vindictive towards each other when it comes to looks than almost any guy. Further more you'll say quaint shit like "you're all gorgeous" in public while you talk shit behind each others backs.

What would you know about it eh? Are you eavesdropping on all your friends' girl talk?

 

[Dyn]

Shittalking and gossip are not exclusive to women either; let's not pretend that plenty of men don't act nice to each other's faces and then complain about their friends and coworkers behind closed doors.

Can personally confirm that the most masculine and high-t workplaces all gossip about each other like church ladies.

 

[Illuminati Order Official]

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Men are so autistic that they don't even understand women giving one-word-replies means that the woman is NOT INTERESTED and just being polite to avoid your tard moidrage from a full on rejection. They really think these women are just too stupid to write a full sentence. Trust if she is talking to a guy she actually wants she can be charming, lovely and engaging with ease. She's just not that into you, dood.

I thought it's supposed to be a conversation, not a mutual interrogation.

 

[Kiwiballs]

"Women tear each other down more than men tear women down" is a myth. I have never seen a woman say anything half as vile about men as men say about women, and nowhere near half as often. Shittalking and gossip are not exclusive to women either; let's not pretend that plenty of men don't act nice to each other's faces and then complain about their friends and coworkers behind closed doors. Let us not forget that this is a gossip forum mostly populated by men.

This is like a secret pact where women won't admit to in public but all women who are honest to each other and aren't in some kind of feminist circlejerk will agree with me. Every single one I've known well and asked has agreed. I've seen enough interviews and podcasts where strong, honest women admit this is a problem.

Next, guys don't do what you think we do. It just doesn't happen. It's partly the way we are Yin and Yang to each other and thus our ways are opposite to yours. Guys naturally mess with guys in public. Partly because we evolutionary speaking compete for your attention. Almost no primates are monogamous and the biological drive is for a few men to impregnate many women. So our social "order" is on the outside where we compete with each other while your internal pecking order is on the inside where you decide among yourselves. While modern man has outgrown some of these tendencies, I've yet to see any indication that we've flipped tendencies with each other.

In terms of looks a typical example are clothes. Women want to appear distinct and desirable. Both among each other and for men.
If two women come with the same dress to a party the trope is that there's a bit of a subtle rift there.
Guys on the other hand tend to dress almost the same in formal wear. You're not selecting us, we're selecting you. But we care about it less than you care about it among each other. I don't mind if two women wear the same dress but you see it as stepping on each others toes.

There is nothing wrong with a woman taking pride in her appearance. Plenty of women just like makeup and clothes. Plenty of men also judge women who wear too much or too little makeup. These things are not mutually exclusive.

So here we have an example of "unhealthy communication" which you re-define as healthy in your own mind. I gave praise to the intent to create beauty and called it a science turned art. You make up your own reality and then argue on it as if it was a fact. This is why men don't argue with women, or women like you or when you're in the mood you're in, what ever the case. There's no winning because there's nothing to win. There are actually no facts to debate.

Which if we go back to the actual point of social dissonance there is. The mantra of "you're all gorgeous" can't be true if so much effort, money, industry, media is spent on trying to make you look gorgeous. I literally couldn't do what some of you ladies do, and I admire you for it because I admire beauty but it would kill me to even attempt to do that every day. So out of empathy I wouldn't mind for a moment f you could be happier by chilling out a bit. '

And from that perspective the feminist movement has some points. There's potential that this gets even worse in the age of cyber-modifications. Women and perhaps even many men will go crazy and are already going crazy trying to please each other and compete with each other on social media for attention. Imagine competing with various cyber modifications as well.

 

[Lurker]

Next, guys don't do what you think we do.

hey, nobody cares, fuck off scrote

 

[Terffals]

@Kiwiballs you really think you’re saying something new and important huh?