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That + a dash of Marxist utopianism was the basic idea behind the kibbutz movement
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French weebs with mall katanas end up defending France again.
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My kike in moloch, modern leftism and post-colonial theory is something y'all came up with. Don't be mad the Tim Wise style rhetoric got applied consistently, don't be mad the f-scale was taken up by people without ethan klein's level of moral particularism. You think you'd learn from golems eventually.
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this has the same energy as teenage girls reposting photos on their instagram stories with the obligatory "fuck israel" written somewhere. i fucking hate people that do this shit for internet points (as if flipping off kidnapped children isn't bad enough).
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From a simpler time on Middle East issues:
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Hay man, we're trying to eliminate the ones responsible for the bombing (hamas) as fast as possible, what more do you want?
Honestly, yeah. Criticize Kissinger all you want, but I'll give you a story of how diplomacy used to work, and how it failed here.
When Kissinger went to visit the Middle East during the Yom Kippur war, he told Golda Meir "I come here first as an American, second as secretary of state, third as a jew". This is another way of stating what his priorities were (right order, in my opinion), and that he wasn't here to place Israel's priorities first, nor eliminate the priorities of the Arab states where they aligned with the US. As a result, you wound up (eventually) with Egypt being a functional ally of Israel in everything but name, and normalized relations with the Arab states, eventually.
To Golda's credit, she snapped back with "my apologies Mr Kissinger, in Israel we read from Right to Left", but you can see how diplomacy once worked. There was the pretence of neutrality, at least in theory, and thats the basis of how actual good solutions can be discussed.
Contrast that with, the first thing that Anthony Blinken, secretary of state, did upon going to the middle east was declaring that he was a Jew and coming to this from a Jewish perspective, for peace for Israel. Great? But you've just isolated the entire arab world and are declaring essentially that you are trying to solve this conflict from ethnic lines.
If you're wondering why Arab states aren't as willing to play ball with US diplomats today, theres a myriad of reasons, but our diplomats having the diplomacy skills of toddlers is a big one here. Unironically, I do think that in terms of foreign affairs, the Biden regime has little to no grace, and this is legitimately one case where Idpol has probably fucked up the process a little bit. Big faux pas.
Want to enrage the Arab world more, and openly state that Israel has a special relationship with the US that trumps any other interest in the region (ie, Jordan, Egypt, the Saudis, the ones with the power to actually choose whether or not they want to end this conflict on what terms they wish?) Do this.
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Great, now the waters are muddy again.
The bomb hit the parking lot, and it must have been really full.
Still not sure which side did it again.
But wherever my autism falls at the end, it doesn't really matter. The arabs are butthurt over it and won't care.
The bomb hit the parking lot, and it must have been really full.
Still not sure which side did it again.
But wherever my autism falls at the end, it doesn't really matter. The arabs are butthurt over it and won't care.
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Yoo-hoo isn't even made with milk.
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This position is absolutely moronic and I'm tired of seeing it. Both sides are genocidal war criminals and literal theocracies built on religions that openly call for the deception, subjugation and elimination of all nonbelievers. They are both bad. This is not a wrestling match or a football game or a first past the post partisan election, you don't have to pick a team, it is neither invalid nor performative to denounce both sides and want them both to suffer maximum casualties and attrition. It is not a zero sum game, nor are these two parties the only parties in existence; you can and should want both to lose as much as possible because both ideologies likely seek to exploit you. In case you haven't figured this out yet, you should be rooting for yourself, even if you're not involved.
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"The way that the projectile in the video flew right to its target making the whistling noise suggests strongly that it was some kind of fin-stabilized munition. The fins are what make the noise. It may have not even been a JDAM but some other kind of guided munition with fins. The thing to note is that Israel has the capacity to use such munitions but Hamas AFAIK doesn't and the theory that they caused the explosion at the hospital relies on one of their rockets breaking up in midair and falling to the ground, which wouldn't produce that whistling sound."
Objects that are not fin stabilized can create a whistling noise as well. For example-ricocheting small arms fire. I am not saying any whistling in any of the videos was small arms fire just that an object does not need fin stabilization to make that sort of sound.
Objects that are not fin stabilized can create a whistling noise as well. For example-ricocheting small arms fire. I am not saying any whistling in any of the videos was small arms fire just that an object does not need fin stabilization to make that sort of sound.
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I thought that synagogue was abandoned, why was a Torah scroll left there? The things cost $10K to start because the letters must be hand-brushed by a scribe on specially prepared animal skin parchment.
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I mentioned the IHRA definition of Antisemitism previously in this thread, which is functionally the one the American government uses. One of the working definitions they provide is:
"Accusing Jewish citizens of being more loyal to Israel, or to the alleged priorities of Jews worldwide, than to the interests of their own nations."
This is included in the definitions because historically there was a belief that Jews were a fifth column, and they held allegiances to international Jewry than they did to the countries in which they lived. Indeed Balfour - architect of the mess we're in now - had specifically as Prime Minister sought to limit Jewish migration into the UK and wrote, as his intro to Nahum Sakow's 1919 History of Zionism that Zionism represented "a serious endeavour to mitigate the age-long miseries created for Western civilization by the presence in the midst of a body which it too long regarded as alien, even hostile, but which it was equally unable to expel or absorb".
Likewise Leo Amery, who played a big part in drafting up the Balfour Declaration (and whose mother was Jewish, but he kept it secret from everyone, including his son, who'd go on to become a Nazi sympathiser) said "once there is a national home for the Jewish persecuted majority, the English Jews will no longer have anything to trouble about. On the other hand, an anti-Semitism which is based party on the fear of being swamped by hordes of undesirable aliens from Russia, etc. and partly by an instinctive suspicion against a community which has so many international ramifications, will be much diminished when the hoards in question have got another outlet, and when the motive for internationalism among the Jews is diminished".
So there's a long standing idea that Jews will always be Jews first and foremost, and will be loyal to Jews before anyone else, including Jews in enemy countries, that they will side with Jews before they'll side with their countrymen because they do not consider their countrymen to be their countrymen etc etc. Therefore raising this idea is a functional example of antisemitism as far as most Western democracies who are part of the IHRA are concerned.
Except Anthony Blinken is basically saying he's Jewish and he's therefore putting Jewish interests first. It's supposedly Antisemitic to point this out, but that's literally what he's saying. He's putting being Jewish ahead of the interests of his country.
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The only difference between the IDF soldier and the hamas militant is the pretext of civilization b/c access to advanced technology. If he's a practicing jew, or grew up in a practicing talmudic household he's heard shit about the gentiles that would make the taliban blush. Its aesthetics driven cope, these are, as other users pointed out, insane semitic theocrats driven by holy books and commentaries that openly endorse pedophilia. While we can sympathize for their victims as human beings, we shouldn't delude ourselves about this conflicts participants.
Kissinger was one of the truly brilliant political minds of the 20th century and is the greatest credit to the jewish race of that era in terms of contribution to academia, specifically in foreign policy. We still wheel his desiccated body out to talk to the chinese, unparalleled greatness right there. Unironically built the stability of the 90s that the next generation of libtards, jews, and other assorted retards ruined with the iraq war and other escapades.
His books are good too, tbh.
(I wish richard nixon was real)
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I would say that the overpressure created indoors from the explosion is what did most people in. It's a hospital, it's already full of delicate people.
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Perhaps it is the Christian ethics in me but tomb desecration just seems particularly sniveling and pathetic.
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I'll push back a bit on this part, I don't think Blinken puts Jewish interests first, because I don't think he or the US really even know what the nation's interests even are at this point in the empire.
Honestly, I think its just poor diplomacy, nothing more. What I think this is more indicative of is that the current political class is just ultra seeped in Idpol, that they don't know basic rules of diplomacy. Send someone black to the BLM rally, send someone Latino to talk about the border wall, send someone Jewish to talk about the Israeli issue. Its a basic Idpol tactic. "I'm ______ minority, so I know more and have a vested interest in this, so listen to me".
It works domestically, but- you can see the 4th level issues with it at an international diplomatic level. Try to solve a problem like this from ethnic lines, and well- arabs are going to operate along ethnic lines counter to that (and they really can dig in on that one)
To go back to the first point, I unironically think that theres basically noone steering the ship and the US is just reacting or doing things without thinking much. I think that class of politicians that we had probably up till the early 80s is all gone at this point, and the government has just been on autopilot since the end of the cold war.
Case in point, someone on autopilot who probably doesn't even know where he is.