2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

So what's the endgame here?

Even if Israel was able to kill 80% of Hamas fighter and 100% of it's equipment/ infrastructure, what's to say that in 15 to 20 years this generation of Palestinian youths don't become the next Hamas terrorists? Hamas has proved resourceful enough to even make rockets from water pipes and common pharmaceutical chemicals notwithstanding the smuggling.

So how is Israel not creating the terrorist of tomorrow with the actions of today?
Today I saw in elon's twatter the following map. I don't know if its reliable or wtf can be considered reliable anymore, but that made me think that the endgame looks like Israel taking over bullzdozing Gaza right till some halal stream on the south and leaving Pallywood squeezed between that "new Gaza zone" and Egypt who is gonna be happy with such an outcome, I am sure. Maybe they'll give what is left of Gaza to the West Bankers, maybe it's gonna be some "international forces" (US you there?), but so far my understanding of "endgame" is close to that. IRL - fuck knows.

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This shit is even worse than the fucking Ukraine war, there is basically zero combat footage aside from IDF bombing the shit out of civilians along with every standing structure in Gaza. I'm increasingly convinced that the entire Hamas military force was deployed and expended on October 7th. Even Hezbollah is more active than Hamas and they were caught flat footed since they had no warning this conflict was about to kick off. Seems like the Mad Max ISIS era in 2015 was truly a golden age for infantry combat footage.
It does seem that we're on a drip feed of whatever combat footage the IDF is willing to share out of the endless trove of video they certainly hold. I just want to see Merkavas rolling around and blowing shit up, like that unfortunate car from the southern push.
 
unless Israel wants to go into the tunnels directly, which would be beyond retarded.
going down there and clearing it would be bad for business. they want hamas to survive, so they can get more and more money from other governments for ever until the end of time. if they fix a problem, then they can't profit off it anymore
 
800 were killed, here's footage of 1600 deaths, you see here 3200 innocent people were bombed to death by IDF, with a casualty of 6400, a total of 12800 deaths so far, we counted 25600 deaths, we confirm it's 51200, there are 102400 dead bodies as we're speaking.

Number go up like the beer money I owe my Jewish colleague last week.
thats the main reason the cool people are supporting their Pals in this. We can finally jew the jews. Did you hear about how israel forced the people of Gaza to go on a rollercoaster to their deaths?
 
This is so fucking retarded. I just can't.
Let me flip this, Google maps is inadequate in China, I guess Americans want to just scrub all the new roads and rail lines to create the illusion that China is basically like North Korea. Do I sound dumb? Surely it's not because China doesn't share this data with Google, can't be that. Must be a conspiracy. Tune in to America Uncensored.
It’s also dumb because Google Maps shows different countries and borders depending on what country you’re in.

When you search for a country, it is normally outlined in red. Countries with disputed borders like Ukraine and Israel do not have their borders highlighted. Google has been doing this for many years.
 

"-You conquered those tribes, lusting for their game and their lands, just as we have now conquered you for no less noble a cause."

“Where did you get this land?
From my father.
Where did he get it?
From his father.
Where did he get it?
He fought for it.
I’ll fight you for it.”


-Scandinavian proverb.
The UN and the US actively pursues a policy of non-territorial changes. All conflicts must end in a reversal to how things were in the days before the conflict happened. Of course, technically you are correct, but it's bullshit to be playing this card. There's also the fact that the nations who do the conquering frequently don't go by this proverb once they've attained significant mastery and development over a plot of land.
 
They put internal borders that reflect the 1947 partition plan which the Arabs rejected
Despite the 1947 partition plan declaring Jerusalem an international city they labeled Jerusalem as being in Palestine.
It's just Chinese autism, the red dotted line represents "disputed borders" and narrowly arcs into a segment of Jerusalem. It reflects the official stance of China. See below.
China's official position is "urging both sides to not be at war and work on a two-state solution, with the capital of Palestine being East Jerusalem".
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/2023-israel-palestine-armed-conflict.173114/post-17082664
You can see similar lines in many countries with disputed territories between neighbours. Pakistan and India has a lot of them.

China wants to be a larger Singapore, which is a successful example of Han fascist rule. A country that's neutral with happy inhabitants, multiracial with no tensions on the surface. The problem is pretty obvious, Singapore is a tiny dot making it easy to manage and play Sim City with, China is huge and vastly more diverse.
 
800 were killed, here's footage of 1600 deaths, you see here 3200 innocent people were bombed to death by IDF, with a casualty of 6400, a total of 12800 deaths so far, we counted 25600 deaths, we confirm it's 51200, there are 102400 dead bodies as we're speaking.

Number go up like the beer money I owe my Jewish colleague last week.
Null banned me real hard last time I expressed my opinion... You guys can guess what's my stance on this is.
 
So what's the endgame here?

Even if Israel was able to kill 80% of Hamas fighter and 100% of it's equipment/ infrastructure, what's to say that in 15 to 20 years this generation of Palestinian youths don't become the next Hamas terrorists? Hamas has proved resourceful enough to even make rockets from water pipes and common pharmaceutical chemicals notwithstanding the smuggling.

So how is Israel not creating the terrorist of tomorrow with the actions of today?

You're right. Israel is creating more terrorists through their heavy handed response - issue is that they don't care.
Time and time again you see with conflicts in the Middle East that bombing a population for the sins of either one dictator or a certain bad actors doesn't exactly sit well with the people living there, no matter how justified it may seem on the outside. When Burgerland invaded Iraq in '03 for the stated purpose of taking out Saddam and his regime, sure you could say he was an evil person. Someone who needed to be deposed. But is it justified to take out an entire city block just to get a chance at killing one man? Should the entirety of Iraq be laid waste to, women and children bombed to smithereens - husbands and fathers gunned down just because muh evil Saddam?
Perhaps it makes sense to the Neoclowns giving the green light on all of it, but one thing you will certainly get is resistance - you will create terrorists. Imagine if the Americans came and bombed your country, killed your wife and turned your son into a splatter on the wall. Would you roll over like a bitch or would you say fuck it and pick up a Tabuk and go take pot shots at Coalition forces?

I could care less about Hamas and their antics which will never pose any serious threat to the Israeli state. The idea that Hamas has been, is or will be any tangible threat to Israel is completely laughable. They are instead a convenient excuse used in order to execute the ultimate endgame of what the Israeli far right has wanted all along. The endgame is the total genocide of the Palestinian people, starting with the Gaza strip. You don't have to worry about creating future terrorists if you are dedicated to "mowing the lawn" so to speak and dropping bombs on Palestinian kids before they can even pick up a rifle in the first place.
And for those who are unconcerned with the fate of the Palestinian nation, I will tell you this. Those of you who are American, who are white or European - you are all future Palestinians. The exact same tactics used to displace, dispossess and ethnically cleanse the Arabs of Palestine are being, and will be used to ethnically cleanse whites from the only countries that they could possibly call home. Their fate is your fate, and the perpetrators of both these programs are one and the same.
 
Time and time again you see with conflicts in the Middle East that bombing a population for the sins of either one dictator or a certain bad actors doesn't exactly sit well with the people living there, no matter how justified it may seem on the outside.
Do you know absolutely nothing about Arabs? They pathologically hate Jews.. The Gazans hated Israel before there was a modern Israel.

The idea that Hamas has been, is or will be any tangible threat to Israel is completely laughable. They are instead a convenient excuse used in order to execute the ultimate endgame of what the Israeli far right has wanted all along.
Yeah, the "convenient excuse" and "laughable" threat of entering the country, taking control of areas of land, and murdering 1500 people. In a tiny country. These Israelis are so reactive!

You don't have to worry about creating future terrorists if you are dedicated to "mowing the lawn" so to speak and dropping bombs on Palestinian kids before they can even pick up a rifle in the first place.
This is literally the opposite of what "mowing the lawn" means.

Those of you who are American, who are white or European - you are all future Palestinians. The exact same tactics used to displace, dispossess and ethnically cleanse the Arabs of Palestine are being, and will be used to ethnically cleanse whites from the only countries that they could possibly call home.
Yeah, definitely. The real threat to white people is the Israelis. They're coming for Sweden next.
 
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