Debate user 'Null' if America has Cheese, Meat, and Bread.

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stalkerchild said:
As you can see there are alot of places approved to process meat in Indiana and as the Home Slaughter shows, I can process anything I want at home for personal use or take it to the local butchers to process for me.
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Yes but the inability to sell to consumers means you can only take advantage of this if you are or know a farmer willing to cut you in on a deal, or personally buy a share of a cow with a few other people and split it up. While this is ridiculously cost-effective if you can throw around big lump sums like this, and then you can have a whole year of meat if you also have a nice big very cold freezer, it's just not available to a lot of the population.

It's great to have a bunch of cuts of beef where you're paying a couple bucks per restaurant quality steak, but not everyone can do that, and it's at least partly because of excessive regulation.
 
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Too Sneed to care said:
It just sounds like he's been living in Europe for too long and became one of those people that complains about America not having
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I'm genuinely curious, which of you insisting null is wrong have actually been to Europe and tried these things? Like, actually gone into a grocery store in a country where you don't speak the language and had what's on the store shelves or such? One of my favorite things when travelling is sampling everything and buying stuff at a market to see what I can't get back home.

There's even a lot of alcohol that's either a pale imitation of the version in America or impossible to get here that is better than the similar stuff in America, but I'm not going to get into that there.

I will say, there is one thing America excels is barbecue and barbecue sauce. People always request this of me when I travel. Gifts of Sweet Ray's can make you a lifetime friend. It doesn't really matter where you go. I think some poll confirmed this as the most requested thing. I've had people from totally different regions ask me for it.
 
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Imagine Reading This LOL said:
How does it feel knowing you have never experienced the joy of eating a good hamburger that isn't pumped with estrogen and forever chemicals and isn't contaminated with the cows feces?

I wish I was joking about the cow feces part by the way, but no, its real. Almost 100% of both conventional and (((organic))) ground beef in America is contaminated with at least some fecal matter. Google it if you don't believe me.
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Eurofag cope and seethe harder while I eat venison burgers from deer hunted and killed with real American firearms that I can own and keep loaded in my house so when a nigger comes to rape my family I can blow a 12-gauge hole in his head instead of having a paddy wagon coming to take me away for the thought-crime of defending my family.
 
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AnOminous said:
It's lucky if it survives the day without being eaten even if there's nothing to put on it.

And if it does, great, croutons for my French onion soup.
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That's nice and all, good for you, but I might not want bread that day. Or tomorrow. Fresh bread is only as good as there's a demand for it.
 
AnOminous said:
Yes but the inability to sell to consumers means you can only take advantage of this if you are or know a farmer willing to cut you in on a deal, or personally buy a share of a cow with a few other people and split it up. While this is ridiculously cost-effective if you can throw around big lump sums like this, and then you can have a whole year of meat if you also have a nice big very cold freezer, it's just not available to a lot of the population.

It's great to have a bunch of cuts of beef where you're paying a couple bucks per restaurant quality steak, but not everyone can do that, and it's at least partly because of excessive regulation.
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I might have not added it, but if you have your own small farm, you can sell to the local processor, who then sells direct to consumer in whatever cuts they want. The big issue is that I can't know where the meat came from because it all gets lumped together on the shelf. This is why I would only buy from a processor that also had their own farm.
I agree that the added step in that process is annoying, but it is mainly due to the State regulating the actual facility and not the animals. Having been forced to read "The Jungle" in school makes me less upset that someone is making sure that the local processor isn't a damn dirty ape.
 
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Doubly Punished Snigger said:
Are you seriously trying to say that there's somehow a material difference between walking 10 minutes to buy bread and driving for 10 minutes?
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Yeah, there is. Just imagine if all people went to a smaller bakery at 7 A.M. (peak hour) to get bread by car, do you think there would be even parking space to it to happen? American cities have more parking space than normal, parking spaces are transient places, they arent intended to be gigantic, since it is not for long you must be there.

It isnt even a matter of physical space, since my country is as big as US, but we still walk to places, we get fresh groceries direct by the farmer and even out meat and cheese by smaller companies. It is a cultural thing, even as former colonies from european countries, there must be an explanation to why americans are so resistant to walk to get their own food at local level. And this is a mirror to even further cultural shit that makes american be the weird ones. We can ask mexicans, argies, chileans and everyone have similar experiences except you, and mostly for worse. If you think for one second that driving 10 minutes is the same as walking 10 minutes, sorry mate, you are dead inside already.

If you told me that there were people that cut their hair at walmart instead of going to their local barbershop at the US, I would believe. Because if the same happens with food, a really important matter, imagine what they would do with other lesser things.

Do you guys even have community gardens? The idea of sharing a place where you all.work and everyone can get food from there since you all worked there for no price? Or even to garden food at your own home?
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While I will consneed that European markets likely have better meat/cheese/bread selections, the situation in small towns is not as dire as described. My town has 2,000 people, and I live about 40 minutes from the nearest major city. I have grocery stores within 15 minutes of me that have a very okay selection of cheeses beyond cheddar. Go on the Weis/Giant websites, pick a zip code, and act like you're making a basket for store pickup to get an idea of what's available.

If I want something that's above 'ingredient grade' yes I do have to order fancier cheeses/meats online. If I want nice bread I'll just bake it. Ideal? No. A cheddar-exclusive wasteland? Also no.
 
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If you've got the spare money and are willing to make the investment:

Get two freezers. It can be an investment. Uprights are more expensive than chest freezers. Chest freezers have the problem where stuff ends up on the bottom for years at a time, so your mileage may vary.

Then look up something like this:


Find something like this in your own state.

If you don't have a pickup, get someone you know and offer to pay them in tasty tasty meat.

At first it's like "TWO THOUSAND FUCKING DOLLARS!?!?!?!?!?!"

Then you end up with more meat than you would have, it tastes better, it's better for you.

When I first moved I had the spare doss to grab a 1/2 cow. I traded 10 pounds of meat to a neighbor to drive me to go get the meat.

Holy shit... that first steak...
 
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Harbinger of Kali Yuga said:
I'm genuinely curious, which of you insisting null is wrong have actually been to Europe and tried these things? Like, actually gone into a grocery store in a country where you don't speak the language and had what's on the store shelves or such?
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Plenty of people in this thread have attested this very thing, but even if they didn't I could flip it around on the Euroniggers who seem know everything about American food even if they haven't gone a mile out of their particular sheepshagging slice of the European caliphate.
 
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@Null became so European, he’s moving goalposts for fun!

Even my cousins in rural Iowa and Kentucky have access to pretty good food going by shit that’s 30 minutes and not Walmart. The ones in Iowa have a local Asian Market that Hmong people founded in the 80’s and they live in the boonies.
It’s pretty cultural and I find that a lot of places are more involved with gardening/ food culture than others.

Butchering is odd, but there‘a a lot of smaller companies that literally make their money by shipping where it was raised and where it was slaughtered. Interstate and State specific rules make it a debate.

I think working fast food, living in a trailer with a meth addict, and living in Buffalo skewed your opinion. I do want to know if you actually had good sea food in Maryland and Florida or were just a faggot who ate Tendies @Null.
You lived in two of the best states for seafood dishes even though Pensacola is kinda in the worst part of the Gulf.
 
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