Debate user 'Null' if America has Cheese, Meat, and Bread.

[Maginot]

Ah, I am in a state adjacent to CA and we get our cheese from there mostly. Mrs. Maginot works at a cheese processing facility (turns 40lb bricks into consumer portions) and her observation is that its Mozzarella that is #1 with cheddar and jack as follow ups.

 

[Harbinger of Kali Yuga]

 

[AnOminous]

Imagine thinking that because the USDA (wrongfully) regulates the meat that it's somehow lesser quality and not as good as "fresh meat".

I'm no fan of the USDA but their meat grades are generally very consistent and if something says USDA Prime on it, it is.

I'd still trust an Amish farmer over the USDA though.

 

[Harvey Danger]

I think we can solve this with a challenge.

@Null go walk to your local grocery store, get a list of all the cheeses immediately available to you. Then tomorrow, I'll go to my local store and see if I can match it. I don't live in a big city, on a coast, or in Wisconsin.

We can do meat and bread in some other fashion (though I'll concede American packaged bread is terrible), but we should be able to solve the CQ fast.

 

[Burd Turglar]

I live in Wisconsin and get real cheese straight from multiple local dairy farms that also make their own fresh cheese. I get most of my meat either from nature or straight from farmers who butcher their own meat and I also get bread from local bakeries though I don't like that they use American grown wheat, luckily I don't eat much bread. local farm to table shit is on a serious rise is certain parts of the country but I know that it's not like that for the vast majority, especially if you're broke or barely getting by. I have a bison guy, two different pig farmers, three beef farmers and all my chicken comes from the Amish or the Mennonites and I have a honey guy that has the best raw honey around. One thing I have started doing though is getting all my pasta from Italy. I just don't trust American wheat.

As for the FDA processing plants, there are plenty of small, local places you can get your meat processed at that aren't giant globo-homo shit holes. There's more places than I can count around here that you can take a deer or a cow or a pig to that's just some local butcher/processor that will section it out for you and often times even make you snack sticks with your own meat. A lot of people up here just do it themselves though. God bless the farmers markets and people who are generations deep in living off the land.

One of my favorite local cheeses is from a woman who's entire family was dutch cheesemakers and she moved to Wisconsin from Holland and makes the best gouda I've ever had. She's one of two female cheese makers in in the state if not the country and her shit is straight fire. https://www.mariekegouda.com/ for the cheese folks out there.

So yeah, we get good shit if you're not retarded and don't live in a food desert. I will concede to @Null though that our wheat game is all fucked up in the US thanks to fucked up pesticides and herbicides that come with the seriously fucked large scale factory farming set ups. Corn is pretty wack too but that's why I have multiple gardens and grow as much shit organically for my own use and make a lot of my own spices, sauces, various pickles and just general use fruits and vegetables and I suggest everyone do the same.

Happy eating to everyone out there.

 

[Mellisuga Helenae]

My dad called Publix "overpriced yuppie bullshit".

And as we all know, he has awful taste. He fucked you, after all.

 

[The Last Stand]

Farmers' markets and organic sections in supermarkets exist. If one is that paranoid about the complete quality of stocked food, either shop somewhere else or produce your OWN food.

 

[Hüftpriester]

If you are American, spend at least 2 weeks in Europe and you will start to feel the poison leaving your body.

 

[Harbinger of Kali Yuga]

I think we can solve this with a challenge.

@Null go walk to your local grocery store, get a list of all the cheeses immediately available to you. Then tomorrow, I'll go to my local store and see if I can match it. I don't live in a big city, on a coast, or in Wisconsin.

We can do meat and bread in some other fashion (though I'll concede American packaged bread is terrible), but we should be able to solve the CQ fast.

I am very sure null will have access to cheese that is almost impossible to obtain in America, and it will not be difficult for him to find it, especially with the many different regional varieties of cheeses. There's a lot of cheese in Europe that isn't in the American consciousness.

 

[AnOminous]

I didnt say the FDA has no jurisdiction, but I know for a fact my local butcher buys his beef direct from local farmers whom I also know and has it processed within 30-40 miles of where his shop is.

That's still an expensive round trip of 60-80 miles for something he's probably perfectly qualified to do himself.

 

[Tour of Italy]

45 pages of null seething is not going to make me unsee 20 years of bakeries both freestanding and inside chain grocery stores in towns of varying size in multiple states.

We can agree on the meat thing but quit deflecting to it while the evidence for everything else mounts.

Just take the L bro.

 

[Android raptor]

Bitch, I'm not driving a fucking donkey to town.

Edit: Actually, fuck it. I might buy a goddamn wagon and see if my neighbors wanna kick in on buying some donkeys. We got room for a barn.

I can't afford either a donkey or car.

 

[Anti Snigger]

In light of this debacle, I am retracting my endorsement of Josh as the General Secretary of the Sneedretariat. I will also be putting my name forth in the next election for this position.

 

[Too Sneed to care]

Nigga I can name three local/regional butchers I can source meat from, I can name 3 local bakeries making artisanal breads and various other baked goods and I can name a half dozen fromageries offering world class local cheeses, and I don't even live in that big of a city.

This boy lives in Florida years ago, does the expat thing and still thinks he knows everything about everywhere in the USA.

It just sounds like he's been living in Europe for too long and became one of those people that complains about America not having

 

[God's strongest milkman]

We will be expecting a full retraction of that statement of yours and for you to fly the American flag in the background of your next stream the entire time. We will also be expecting you to consume at least one big Mac during the stream if you want any money in that shiny new bank account of yours.

 

[888Flux]

Proposal: if at least 100 people provide photographs proving him wrong, @Null has to change the site name to "Cheesy Farms" for a week.

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[Neo-Holstien]

As someone who has always lived on the West Coast, the idea of eating cheddar makes me sick; no Gouda, Provolone, or Halloumi would make me a very mad boy, America is hell for having lamp be almost as costly as Beef, forcing me to eat chicken and pork (inferior meats), my local grocery chain bakes a varety of bread, I can even go to a special European store for Eastern European style breads and Kvass.

 

[Sexy Potoo]

Trannies should just record videos of themselves getting non-processed bread, meat, and cheeses at american grocery stores instead of DDoS'ing the site.

I think it would piss of Null a  lot  more.

 

[God's strongest milkman]

We will be expecting a full retraction of that statement of yours and for you to fly the American flag in the background of your next stream the entire time. We will also be expecting you to consume at least one big Mac during the stream if you want any money in that shiny new bank account of yours.

You must also say "mmm tasty" and clap at least once during the consumption of the big Mac.

 

[GET!]

I think after more than 45 pages of Autism I've cracked the code

1) Null hasn't been in the US for a long time,
2)when he was, he was raised by a single mother in a meth shack, meaning that his only dietary choices were goyslop
3)His inability to afford anything above a walmart prevented him from finding the countless grocery stores that offer freshly baked bread, non processed american cheese, and butcher cuts of meat, as well as the dozens of imports from his holy mecca of Europe
4)After fleeing the country, he now, as a low income amerimutt himself, has discovered that in any slavic shithole he flees to, he is basically the richest man in town, and can afford to go to the high end grocery stores there rather than survive on estrogenized frozen meals that pad the normal eurofag diet.
5)He's consumed so much borsch that the liquid ferments his brain at night, leading to a loss of reasoning indistinguishable from typical eurofag seething.

A combination of all these things has made @Null completely oblivious to the realities of the US grocery store, and his warped perception of the quality in food in Europe is due to him being able to afford the higher end bakeries there on his american cash dollar.

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