2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

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So what's the endgame here?

Even if Israel was able to kill 80% of Hamas fighter and 100% of it's equipment/ infrastructure, what's to say that in 15 to 20 years this generation of Palestinian youths don't become the next Hamas terrorists? Hamas has proved resourceful enough to even make rockets from water pipes and common pharmaceutical chemicals notwithstanding the smuggling.

So how is Israel not creating the terrorist of tomorrow with the actions of today?
It's likely that Israel wants to create a wider buffer area, to be honest.

Currently there's 'leaked plans' that Israel had to push the Gazans into the Sinai desert.
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The thing I'd like to preface this with is, take this with a grain of salt. In intelligence, often people have to propose multiple plans, and all contingencies. World leaders need to know all options that are on the table, even unrealistic ones or ones that noone even domestically will ever entertain. Think "US plans to invade Canada". Does it mean the US planned to invade Canada? No. Does it mean a plan was drawn up among dozens of other possible options? Sure.


This was likely one such drawn up plan, and maybe even something the Israeli government flirted telling the evangelicals about, but its not a plan I think they'd actually entertain. This would be more of a "lets brainstorm ideas, say everything and anything that comes to mind".

Conversely, this is also probably why Egypt announced "they were willing to sacrifice millions of lives to protect their land from invasion". I guess they really, really do not want Palis and are saying "fuck you, you keep them, were willing to let millions of our own people die rather than have Palis in our country". Puts things into perspective I guess.
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Another potential plan is that a UN peacekeeping force (including the US) will occupy Gaza after the war. Again, remember- in brainstorming sessions multiple plans are always thought up, this does not mean that they will be the plan.

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I'm not going to get into this one, but for reasons half the thread can espouse more trollishly than I can, the US will probably not have an interest in "doing Israels' dirty work and patrolling Gaza" for them.

Realistically I think the current working operation is that Israel is likely going to try and create an even greater demilitarized zone in Gaza (at the Gazans expense), this cramping the strip even more. This is likely why they are clearing the north first and trying to push everyone out to the south- because most Israel settlements are near the north of Gaza.
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Coupled with a wider DMZ along the border wall in the south, and thats the working solution Id argue that they currently have.

There are talks of trying to place Gaza under West Bank control, but thats a separate issue. Regardless, thats more a political solution. If you want to know the military/strategic solutions for the Palestinians, these are the current working ones. They will likely need to combine a strategic solution, with a political one in some cases (ie, wider DMZ + West Bank control)
 
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this guy has held the position that "Israel should be wiped from the face of the Earth. It is an animal state that recognizes no human worth. It is a cancer that should be eradicated." since forever, operating on the single policy of "we will martyr as many civilians as it takes!" while relegating the care of the welfare of the Gazans he wants to throw into the blender to the UN while they sit inside their gay tunnels.
I hate his eyebrows :(

Who does 'get to decide'?
The members of the UN Human Rights Council of course. Somalia, Sudan, Qatar, and the UAE.

IDF leaflet drop in the Shati camp, norther Gaza. They've been given several weeks to gtfo and I just can't bring myself to feel sorry for these people anymore. I do feel bad for the kids though, must be rough going through life when your parents are dumber than niggers.
They could put the children down in the bomb-proof tunnel system they conveniently constructed. Just a thought.

Nigga, if someone leafletted your home telling you to gtfo after keeping you like a caged animal for 50 years, would you just bend over?
Umm... if you're asking if I'd flee an active warzone because a guy with a fired up F-16 told me to, yes. My answer would be yes.
 
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IDF posted audio of what they claim is an intercepted call between two Hamas deputies while one is at this exact hospital demanding that the hospital give them all of their remaining fuel. Sounds like the tunnel bois are running low on resources and predictably prioritizing their heeb killing rockets over keeping dying Gazan patients alive. Scum.
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Full audio here: https://twitter.com/idf/status/1718203005231665657?s=46
If true, it’s kind of hilarious considering Hamas was going off mere days ago about how this hospital suffering a power outage due to lack of fuel was “a crime against humanity”

(Rate me late if this was already posted. The site’s being fucky today and I’m having a hard time keeping it up long enough to read all of today’s posts)
 
no he didn't, this whole "soros was le nazi" thing is bullshit and 95% lies.

tl;dr: as a child in occupied hungary the local jew council once had him deliver deportation documents, and later he was helped and protected by a government worker whose job included dealing with confiscated jewish property. that's all.

i hate the man like you wouldn't believe, but spreading retarded made up fake stories about him being some kind of jewish crypto nazi is just dumb and wrong.

George Soros has proven himself to be an enemy of humanity just from his deeds in the past 20-30 years. We can ignore him being a cabin boy for an SS officer when deciding his worthiness as a human being.
 
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ED: I know they have drones, GIVE ME THE IMPACT VIDEOS, YOU FUCKS
Once again, not even trying to hide the fact that they're in civilian clothing.

In regards to impacts, you'll notice that most of the Hamas videos that show them cut off right after the initial explosion, because the results are usually less than impressive. For instance, Israeli D9 bulldozers are reported to have shrugged off multiple RPG hits. Likewise, it seems that the Trophy system combined with reactive armor is so far performing well against anti-tank missiles (the incident in which 11 Givati soldiers were killed being an exception; the system failed to fire for an unknown reason). The Hebrew article I read the above in also claimed that Hamas's drones are suffering a very high rate of attrition (as do drones in Ukraine), so that could be another reason for the lack of footage.

Anyway, to no one's surprise, it turns out the "woman""rabbi" who heckled Biden the other day is a disgusting tranny:
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Reservists planting the Israeli flag in Hamas' former "Palestine Base":
 
Lol say what you want about Jews but they don’t live in squalor. They mourn the Holocaust but don’t complain about it stopping them from achieving things. And now they have their own country armed to the teeth and developing new technology every day. Also Jewish values are compatible with western society. People loooove saying Jews love victimhood and then in the same breath turn around and shame them for working hard and becoming successful. The math ain’t mathing.
Well, ff course they would. Jews have lived in free Christendom for about 1300 years, after all. It would be weird if they hadn't appropriated some of the qualities of Western Christians with whom they intermixed with. When the coloniser state was established, the Jew was so far beyond the Arabs, precisely because they were Europeans.
 
Another insane take from a cunt with a self-inflated sense of importance merely for being a woman on the Internet:
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Again, imagine being an American and siding with China shills merely because you have an irrational paranoia that Jews are watching your every move.

Found both of these in response to a ben shapiro tweet in the replies and it's amazing how both groups are basically using the same propaganda.
The main difference being the top one never happened and the bottom one did. "Civilian" (who can eve tell who is a civilian in this case since they don't wear military uniforms anyways) deaths are caused from collateral damage from bombings that citizens are warned about ahead of time. Meanwhile Hamas went into people's homes and systematically murdered, raped, and kidnapped people, including children.
Both groups have victimized each other and made demons out of each other and dehumanized each other.
Wow!!! Both sides in a war have dehumanized one another!?!? That's something I've never heard of nor thought of ever!!! You've convinced me, this war is totally unjustified and everyone should just put down their guns and stop fighting. This is so dehumanizing!!!!
 
They've been given several weeks to gtfo and I just can't bring myself to feel sorry for these people anymore.
I can kinda see why are they doing this - they really don't want to abandon their homes and lose everything they have, and are hoping (and coping) that they'll just get lucky and their place would not get leveled.
Probably an empty hope, considering Hamas is essentially using them as human shields, but still.
 
are female rabbis even a thing? i think serious jews (the ones who grow beards and wear hats) don't allow that, and i can't imagine they'd allow some trannoid to become rabbi either
It's like female priests and pastors. They're not supposed to a thing, but softer religious denominations would have them anyway, as previously exemplified in this thread by Reform Judaism:
The Reform movement is demanding a "humanitarian ceasefire":
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Can't forget the preferred pronouns:
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