2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

Explain in a non meme way. Like actually why would legit gays support the Gaza strip, an area that HATES them but not Israel a country that allows gay pride parades? Like I get it if they hated the current Israeli government (I'm no fan of it either) but they don't say "i hate the government not the people" like they do for their other shit head countries. They just hate it all.
It really comes down to a fuck you Daddy moment for the longest time you see. America has been pro Israeli. And anything that is status quo must be remade in their image. The other brainless thought behind it is this minorities that are brown are oppressed people while white people and white looking people are oppressors. Again institutionalized faggerty
 
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On the subject of protests, what would happen if Palestinians ever protested against Hamas? What would that look like?
Hamas will throw the leader off the tallest building in Gaza (well luckily it's probably not that tall anymore LOL).
Hamas will beat up every supporter and call them race traitors to the so called Palestinian cause. Hamas, Fatah/PLO had many feuds in the past. Hamas will kill/torture their leaders, and they will respond by doing the same. I'll look up the events later.

The citizens of Gaza and basically beaten into submission, it's literally an open air prison. On one side, they're gated from da Jooland, internally, they're oppressed by an authoritarian regime. At least Fatah is kind of a benevolent dictatorship. If Hamas wants to use your hospital to dig tunnels like a mole and shoot gay Qassam firecrackers into Israel, are you at your liberty to say no? Because if so, they'll shoot you and do it anyway, with the support of the loud majority who sees you as a traitor in the process ready to kill your entire family.

The PLO considers Israel legitimate and wants a two state solution, they are comprised of a range of other non-militant (the PLF reformed) Palestinian activist groups/mainly leftist political parties. Not saying I agree with them but they're toddlers compared to Hamas. And yeah, Hamas wouldn't mind killing toddlers so there's that.

I don't hate Jews for their beliefs and I don't hate Israel for existing.
American Jews are different to Jews basically everywhere. Most American Jews I've met were either hardcore Zionists or huge heathenistic leftoids. It's no surprise that America's Jews will try to cosy up with subhuman terrorists in an attempt to distinguish themselves from those "damned genocidal freaks of Israhell" that execute poor innocent Ahmad making firecrackers without muh due process whatever bullshit. They're seen as a joke by Jews elsewhere.
 
So then why didn't they cry for the dead jews on October 7th? And I get what you're saying.

They live in societies where everyone in any position of influence or power condemned Oct 7 very loudly.

The difference with what is going on in Gaza now is that they see their leaders and basically the entire Western world rushing to support Israel's actions which they disagree with. They see their own countries as enablers of the killings in Gaza. So speaking loudly, protesting and other efforts have a purpose. To change their country's policies. To let their politicians know this isn't what they support.

So it's a key distinction.


Explain in a non meme way. Like actually why would legit gays support the Gaza strip, an area that HATES them but not Israel a country that allows gay pride parades? Like I get it if they hated the current Israeli government (I'm no fan of it either) but they don't say "i hate the government not the people" like they do for their other shit head countries. They just hate it all.

Those sorts of people are a bit narcissistic, so they need to virtue signal and make an aspect of this about themselves. They would see the people in Gaza as people before looking at their beliefs around the gays. It's probably irrelevant to why they're against them being slaughtered.



Trump broke people's brains in the worst way. Why is it so hard for lefties to understand that Donald Trump got elected because he was bringing up issues that other politicians didn't talk about? I'm convinced that most people didn't really listen or care to his answers to those issues, but he at least brought them up. I didn't vote for the man because I thought he was a con artist and I also didn't like how he had zero experience in governing it all. I know for some people the outsider belief was a pro but for me it was not.

My theory is those that who went deranged just get told what to think or know. Look up opinions online. They knew for a solid fact Trump couldn't win. They knew Hillary would be amazing. There's a long election cycle where that was constantly being reinforced. So Trump's winning was reality-breaking.

Then the media and institutional apparatuses that like to tell people what to think went into overdrive. Instead of reflecting on this, their mistakes. They doubled down and went harder because how dare the people vote for the wrong person. It's become more forceful and people seem more susceptible to it. Further unhinged from reality. It also went into a cycle of getting them outraged over the latest terrible Orange man story. The walls are closing in. They were constantly being told what was true, only to have it constantly not be. Further derranging them. Just think of all the strange shit people now act like it was normal and not just invented.

The wars getting a lot of attention. If the war in Yemen and the support of many western nations was constantly reported on with images and video. They'd be against that. If people knew America was occupying a third of Syria, they might ask why? Hell these people didn't even know Obama expanded the wars to other countries as it was barely reported.

I'm sure there's plenty of these non thinking people who are just repeating stuff they know nothing about. There's also plenty who know it's a fucked. On a base level, anyone with empathy should be looking at the deaths and killings and be repulsed. That doesn't mean you have to have a solution. Something other than bombing kids, and what is presumed to be a plan to finally empty Gaza should be upsetting to most people who aren't monsters or sold their souls.

Being against the killing of kids doesn't mean you have to have a solution to what Israel should be doing or a fool proof peace plan. Also as there's many people against this, there's probably a lot of people who do think all the bad things.
 
I never understood it also didn't think it was this widespread
You could honestly say the same for the boomers and hard line republicans that worship Israel. I've been to Israel and it's not exactly Christian friendly depending on where you are. They won't cut your head off but they might spit on you and tell you Jesus is boiling in piss for all eternity. Mind you, they will ignore all this if you're willing to marry one of their Jewish princesses so she can get dual US citizenship and churn out a bunch of God's chosen anchor babies.
 
You could honestly say the same for the boomers and hard line republicans that worship Israel. I've been to Israel and it's not exactly Christian friendly depending on where you are. They won't cut your head off but they might spit on you and tell you Jesus is boiling in piss for all eternity. Mind you, they will ignore all this if you're willing to marry one of their Jewish princesses so she can get dual US citizenship and churn out a bunch of God's chosen anchor babies.

Stop posting your fetishes, there are other threads for that.
 
You could honestly say the same for the boomers and hard line republicans that worship Israel. I've been to Israel and it's not exactly Christian friendly depending on where you are. They won't cut your head off but they might spit on you and tell you Jesus is boiling in piss for all eternity. Mind you, they will ignore all this if you're willing to marry one of their Jewish princesses so she can get dual US citizenship and churn out a bunch of God's chosen anchor babies.
I think the difference honestly is that those sentiments are things I have seen in other countries (mainly Catholic ones). Also do be aware that Jews are very very cagey around Christians due to the centuries of violence, pogroms, hate, force conversion and antisemitism so it's not shocking they treated you that way. But the difference I suppose is that for all its flaws Israel still is a democracy (and the only one in the Middle East), is fairly successful at what they do internally (good military, not shit economy, ect), the people are wholy patriotic like Americans (for example Israel is the only country I've been to besides the USA where people love to fly their national flag) and as such you can interact with them like adults/functioning countries. I mean compare Israel to any other country in the region. Every other country if left alone becomes a dictatorial religious shit hole where they will stone you or burn down your McDonald's because some retard on twitter told them they don't like Mohammad. In Israel when some Jews start chimping out half the country will stand up and say "no calm the fuck down". I have never heard of a store in Israel getting destroyed because some Christian wanted to sell a pork roll. I've done business with countries all over the Middle East. And Israel is the only country (barring the UAE) where it's civil servants didn't ask for bribes to do their fucking job. Israel's bureaucracy is terrible (like any Western country) but it's not full of people asking for bribes. So for boomers Israel is easy to relate to because it's very much like the USA/Europe. Because unlike other Arab states when the Israelis don't like their government, they just go into the Street and protest for days on end. Unlike Arab Nations which just pull out their guns and start shooting anything that moves . By the way the Israelis might get a US citizenship but it's because the Israeli passport isn't as strong (they can't easily travel) but they still want to live in Israel. Israelis are very practical people and a bit headstrong to a fault. But they is in many ways very similar to the USA.


I promise you if the Palestinians ever get their own state they will turn it into a shithole state like Jordan in under 5 years.
 
Palestinians tried governing and obviously the result was Hamas wiping out PLO from Gaza and civil war. PLO was funding terrorist activities into Israel and suicide bombings runs.

I mean come on.

Fuck these sandniggers.
You know the thing is that Israel has something like 5 options here:

1) kick out all the Palestinians and make all of gaza Israel.- despite what some retards in Israel might say and dipshits might believe the fact is that the VAST MAJORITY of Israelis and the Israeli government DO NOT want this. They don't want to increase Muslim refugees in their country, they don't want to police the Gaza cities and occupy them and they don't want to police them. Shits expensive, dangerous and just gets Jews killed.

2) do nothing. Not happening, shit like Oct 7th will just keep happening

3) remove hamas and install an Israeli friendly government to make sure gaza doesn't become a problem again-possible but Israel sucks at nation building they couldn't do it in Lebanon and lack the economy of the usa to do it

4) point 3 but let the world clean up the mess-honestly this is a real possibility. Israel has said they will cut off Gaza from the rest of Israel so the question is: who will pick up the pieces? I promise you Israel will not let Iran or Qatar do it so who will?

5) limited reconquering of land in Gaza and turning Gaza into the west bank (Palestinian area with pockets of Israeli settlements by the sea in the north or south- again possible but it would be a security nightmare. I would not be surprised if there is a permanent Israeli military base in Gaza/by the Gaza coastline (think Green zone but in Gaza). You know if Israel wanted to do this they could tell all the Christians, Cassirians, Arab Israelis and the other ethnic minorities with Israeli citizenship, that the government will subside them to move there and will loosen permits to let them build too.
 
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You know the thing is that Israel has something like 5 options here:

1) kick out all the Palestinians and make all of gaza Israel.- despite what some retards in Israel might say and dipshits might believe the fact is that the VAST MAJORITY of Israelis and the Israeli government DO NOT want this. They don't want to increase Muslim refugees in their country, they don't want to police the Gaza cities and occupy them and they don't want to police them. Shits expensive, dangerous and just gets Jews killed.

2) do nothing. Not happening, shit like Oct 7th will just keep happening

3) remove hamas and install an Israeli friendly government to make sure gaza doesn't become a problem again-possible but Israel sucks at nation building they couldn't do it in Lebanon and lack the economy of the usa to do it

4) point 3 but let the world clean up the mess-honestly this is a real possibility. Israel has said they will cut off Gaza from the rest of the world so the question is: who will pick up the pieces? I promise you Israel will not let Iran or Qatar do it so who will?

5) limited reconquering of land in Gaza and turning Gaza into the west bank (Palestinian area with pockets of Israeli settlements by the sea in the north or south- again possible but it would be a security nightmare. I would not be surprised if there is a permanent Israeli military base in Gaza/by the Gaza coastline (think Green zone but in Gaza). You know if Israel wanted to do this they could tell all the Christians, Cassirians, Arab Israelis and the other ethnic minorities with Israeli citizenship, that the government will subside them to move there and will loosen permits to let them build too.
6) prolong the war as long as possible to get more money and equipment from other countries, and when it becomes unprofitable, send in the only competent military force in the entire world, the US military.
 
My theory is Israel is annexing some of Gaza. They didn't go through the motions of declaring war to just go back to the same borders as before. Way too much blood has been shed, and Israel wouldn't bother with a ground invasion to this scale to just go back to Gaza the way it is

Here's the post-war breakdown, in my view:

Israel annexes the upper portion of Gaza completely, likely everything north of the Kissium Road into Israel proper. The upper portion of Gaza is close to heavily populated Israeli cities. The southern parts of Gaza are basically against the desert, with smaller settlements.

With what's left of Gaza, Israel has a massive DMZ surrounding it's borders. It already exists, somewhat, but it'll look akin to the Korean DMZ rather than what they had now.

Lastly, they absolutely wash their hands of Gaza. Nothing crossing the Israeli-Gazan border. Any Gazan approaching their border gets shot. Egypt can deal with them, or they can die once the Arab states show how fucking little they care about Gazans/Palestinians.
 
I never understood it also didn't think it was this widespread
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Explain in a non meme way. Like actually why would legit gays support the Gaza strip, an area that HATES them but not Israel a country that allows gay pride parades? Like I get it if they hated the current Israeli government (I'm no fan of it either) but they don't say "i hate the government not the people" like they do for their other shit head countries. They just hate it all.
This has got to be the most frequently asked question on here. Understandably so, because to the average person with brain cells, the leftist reaction has been baffling. The short answer is that they are retarded. The long answer is white man bad, brown man good. Brown man is “indigenous”, has free reign over Israeli land and therefore can “resist” the “occupiers” any way they see fit. Brown man religion is not violent, just simply misunderstood! Anyone backed by America is Bad. Also, brown man is losing the war so it must be a genocide.
You know the thing is that Israel has something like 5 options here:

1) kick out all the Palestinians and make all of gaza Israel.- despite what some retards in Israel might say and dipshits might believe the fact is that the VAST MAJORITY of Israelis and the Israeli government DO NOT want this. They don't want to increase Muslim refugees in their country, they don't want to police the Gaza cities and occupy them and they don't want to police them. Shits expensive, dangerous and just gets Jews killed.

2) do nothing. Not happening, shit like Oct 7th will just keep happening

3) remove hamas and install an Israeli friendly government to make sure gaza doesn't become a problem again-possible but Israel sucks at nation building they couldn't do it in Lebanon and lack the economy of the usa to do it

4) point 3 but let the world clean up the mess-honestly this is a real possibility. Israel has said they will cut off Gaza from the rest of the world so the question is: who will pick up the pieces? I promise you Israel will not let Iran or Qatar do it so who will?

5) limited reconquering of land in Gaza and turning Gaza into the west bank (Palestinian area with pockets of Israeli settlements by the sea in the north or south- again possible but it would be a security nightmare. I would not be surprised if there is a permanent Israeli military base in Gaza/by the Gaza coastline (think Green zone but in Gaza). You know if Israel wanted to do this they could tell all the Christians, Cassirians, Arab Israelis and the other ethnic minorities with Israeli citizenship, that the government will subside them to move there and will loosen permits to let them build too.
I really doubt Israel will move settlers into Gaza and fully annex it for civilians. Aside from the crazy settlers in the West Bank, most Israelis actually do not have any interest in taking more land. Especially not Gaza, which used to be full of nice cities and is now an absolute shithole with hollowed out ground made into creepy rat tunnels. No one wants that garbage dump.

What I realistically see happening is just a military occupation to make sure Hamas never has any actual power ever again. They really really fucked up this time. I think they were expecting a hostage swap and a couple air strikes but now Gaza city is surrounded and they’re starting to sweat.

What would be nice to happen if we lived in an ideal world which we do not, would be that the military occupation would lead to less corrupt control and withholding of resources like what Hamas did, allowing the population to actually use the UN funds they get in a positive, productive way, restoring or rather transforming Gaza into a functioning society and people finally figuring out that Hamas was the bad guys all along. But we know that won’t happen and of course this is wishful thinking. We know it will become like the West Bank, just civilians whining, harassing, and throwing rocks at the soldiers instead of reforming their indoctrination schools and fostering a productive society.

Also just a random point, the idea of Israelis being land stealing whores is so fucking dumb, have those people ever looked at a map at the Middle East? Seriously, stealing land where? Israel is a microscopic speck of dirt in a sea of MASSIVE Muslim ethnostates. Arabs are like just a few hundred miles away from creating their dream Muslim caliphate in the Middle East, it’s like they haven’t learned any of their own history about Mohammed (piss be upon him) violently conquering nearly half the world. For fucks sake we even got Greek restaurants serving hummus. Sounds like Arabs are the greedy land guzzling assholes.
 
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I didn't expect this:
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For those who don't know, Paul Graham is one of the biggest technology venture capitalists, founder of the Y Combinator startup incubator and Hacker News. This is not someone in the habit of getting into political Twitter slapfights. Now his accounting of deaths in the conflict has made him a target. When multibillionaires find themselves drawn into the fray of this conflict what could be in store down the road?
 
My theory is Israel is annexing some of Gaza. They didn't go through the motions of declaring war to just go back to the same borders as before. Way too much blood has been shed, and Israel wouldn't bother with a ground invasion to this scale to just go back to Gaza the way it is

Here's the post-war breakdown, in my view:

Israel annexes the upper portion of Gaza completely, likely everything north of the Kissium Road into Israel proper. The upper portion of Gaza is close to heavily populated Israeli cities. The southern parts of Gaza are basically against the desert, with smaller settlements.

With what's left of Gaza, Israel has a massive DMZ surrounding it's borders. It already exists, somewhat, but it'll look akin to the Korean DMZ rather than what they had now.

Lastly, they absolutely wash their hands of Gaza. Nothing crossing the Israeli-Gazan border. Any Gazan approaching their border gets shot. Egypt can deal with them, or they can die once the Arab states show how fucking little they care about Gazans/Palestinians.
I actually think this is more likely. However how can Israel make sure iran and turkey don't import weapons into gaza ....again
 
Can someone please explain to me how liberals can support river to the sea shit? Are they just antisemtic or dumb as fuck? I mean they're clearly not religious but do they just see "muh dead kids" and freak out? Do they not understand that actions have consequences and that this is actually what their "revolution" would look like if it it happened (the military fucking them.up)? Please someone explain. I get Arabs, they're just Muslims, so they just want to see jews dead and everyone a muslim but the others I'm actually baffled. Like I get complaining about israeli's prime minister (he's a shit head and so are his guys) but what exactly do they think Israel should have responded to this attack? For the record I'm not a boomer.
Brown people said it and to white liberals brown people aren't full moral actors, so it's not their fault their empowerment rhetoric sounds extremely genocidal.
Also Jews are pretty privileged in their experience so them getting existential death threats is just punching up.
 
Can someone please explain to me how liberals can support river to the sea shit? Are they just antisemtic or dumb as fuck? I mean they're clearly not religious but do they just see "muh dead kids" and freak out? Do they not understand that actions have consequences and that this is actually what their "revolution" would look like if it it happened (the military fucking them.up)? Please someone explain. I get Arabs, they're just Muslims, so they just want to see jews dead and everyone a muslim but the others I'm actually baffled. Like I get complaining about israeli's prime minister (he's a shit head and so are his guys) but what exactly do they think Israel should have responded to this attack? For the record I'm not a boomer.
The line is "from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free". Sounds normal enough to libs because it sounds like wanting rights for Palestinians. The alternative interpretation being "make Israel Palestine again" can also seem decent since libs assume everyone coming together would cause them to want to work together for a place they'd all live happily ever after in. The idea you could have people live side by side and still have them want to kill each other doesn't really enter the picture.
 
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