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What would happen if a surrogate changed her mind and aborted? What would a court (one which respects fag uterus-renting contracts) think of that power move?
A court could use a forced abortion as the solomonic threat to solve these cases tbh.
 
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Can you sue twitter for transphobia? (self.AskALawyer)
submitted 2 days ago by Famous_Knowledge_705
There are multiple transphobic twitter accounts that post personal stories and photos from various trans related subreddits for purposes of mockery. Can twitter be sued for this?

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Suing Twitter for transphobia (self.MtF)
submitted 1 day ago by Famous_Knowledge_705
Hi ladies,
I am beyond dissatisfied with the replies I received from the /r/AskALawyer subreddit regarding the topic of transphobic twitter accounts. Here is my post.
Apparently, our Reddit posts are considered part of the public domain. So it’s legal for TERFs to mock our private thoughts and selfies on twitter?!
In light of the tragic suicide of closeted trans girl Brittini “Bubba” Copeland, I feel this is especially egregious!
I have been able to get some TERF twitter accounts banned but many more pop up.
Are any of you ladies lawyers? What are your thoughts on TERF twitter accounts stealing our Reddit posts and publicly mocking us?
 
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"I'm a card carrying liberal who would be happy to pay more in taxes to help the disadvantaged. Now I'm going to complain for five paragraphs about how my city blows through millions in state and federal grants without actually helping any of the disadvantaged."

At some point we're going to have to stop calling these people NPCs because AI will have progressed enough to simulate a rational, coherent worldview.
This actually explains why Californians are so retarded. It's not the policy that's the problem its the people who implement it. That's why when they move they vote for the same policies that ruined California. Surely it'll work this time if we just get the right people. Rinse and repeat. San Francisco and LA should be walled off and made the worlds largest open air insane asylums. Anyone who moved from there should be deported back.
 
The Ask A Lawyer forum has gone private. I was looking at it earlier today but now I can't see shit. I did notice that the troon's thread posted above had a few recent comments loling at his antics and saying hatewords like "tr00n". Could that be related? I'm not blaming any of you. I'm sure the thread was posted elsewhere.
I wouldn't be surprised. Looking at the account it looks like a troll account. But I can imagine there were enough people to take the bait and fighting spilled out in the comments; the mods freaked out and overreacted by going private.
 
court would most likely find her in breach of contract and order her to pay them back any money they gave her as part of the deal.
Even in places that wouldn't enforce the contract itself, they'd probably still do that under an unjust enrichment theory, unless they were actually deliberately punishing such activity by basically saying if you do this, you lose. Or they could even go so far as criminalizing such contracts.

Other cans of worms.

Suppose the child is actually the genetic child of both parents who hired the surrogate?

Suppose she suddenly wants to abort the child in the eighth month (presuming a location that allows that).

Suppose she does give birth to a child she isn't really genetically related to and wants parental rights? (In this case I'd side with the genetic parents.)

Suppose some combination of these and other fucked-up shit?

Case law on all this is a huge mess.
 
Even in places that wouldn't enforce the contract itself
would any place actually try to enforce a contract like that? like, force a woman to allow some dude to impregnate her against her will? i can't see any judge signing an order like that, no matter what the contract she signed says about it.
 
I wouldn't be surprised. Looking at the account it looks like a troll account. But I can imagine there were enough people to take the bait and fighting spilled out in the comments; the mods freaked out and overreacted by going private.
To be clear, the OP, Famous Knowledge, wasn't the one shitposting trans hatred. But looking at his profile, I guess it could be a troll. There's some stuff that looks like blatant bait but so much banal shit that I'm doubtful.

Anyway, what the fuck is wrong with people? Are kids no longer told that everything they do online is public? It baffles me that anyone could think that getting reposted is legally actionable. I mean it's one thing if someone reposts you and then proceeds to harass you continually, but quite another to simply repost with minimal comment. I could see how someone would think the former should be illegal (but it shouldn't) but the latter is ridiculous. Obviously it isn't just zoomers either. The internet was just exploding when I was young and the universal message was 'be careful, shit is public, you don't know who is who'. Did older people not get the message? Did they stop telling kids this?
 
would any place actually try to enforce a contract like that? like, force a woman to allow some dude to impregnate her against her will? i can't see any judge signing an order like that, no matter what the contract she signed says about it.
Probably not but who knows in current year. Maybe if the dude was a troon.
 
would any place actually try to enforce a contract like that? like, force a woman to allow some dude to impregnate her against her will? i can't see any judge signing an order like that, no matter what the contract she signed says about it.
Can they do the opposite? Like if the contract owner decides they don't want the baby anymore, can they force the surrogate to abort it?
 
Can they do the opposite? Like if the contract owner decides they don't want the baby anymore, can they force the surrogate to abort it?
I would almost certainly say not. Shades of the chinkland "one child policy" and guys with guns showing up and forcibly giving women abortions. And even if she did have the child and got primary custody, whoever was genetically related to it would probably still be on the hook for child support.
 
I would almost certainly say not. Shades of the chinkland "one child policy" and guys with guns showing up and forcibly giving women abortions. And even if she did have the child and got primary custody, whoever was genetically related to it would probably still be on the hook for child support.
It's happened before, some absolutely evil ghouls tried to compel their surrogate to have an abortion due to severe abnormalities under the termination clause of their contract. (Cleft lip, brain cyst, heart abnormalities, ended up being a worse case than initially determined.) During that time, the surrogate found people who would be willing to take in the baby, they accepted, and the ghouls proceeded to change their mind and decided they wanted her back. To add to this clusterfuck, the woman who commissioned the baby used genetic material from an entirely different egg donor, which isn't something that had been mentioned to the surrogate prior to the embryo transfer. The baby was born, the ghouls agreed to relinquish custody in exchange for an open adoption where they could receive information about the baby and visit, so very interesting case law wasn't made but I guess I shouldn't be upset about an outcome that feels more compassionate. I believe the surrogate's name was Crystal Kelley if anyone's interested.
Zheng Shuang and Zhang Heng also commissioned two babies, due to be born in the USA a couple of months apart, and Zheng, the woman in the couple, changed her mind during the third trimester due to their relationship falling apart. Zhang wanted the children and got them until she decided she had changed her mind a year later, but he ended up winning custody and sole decision-making rights. She retained visitation and it's apparently grown substantially since I last checked on the news regarding this case.
Ghastly shit.
 
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