US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[TerminalTryHard]

Have you all considered not interacting with the bait/retard poster?

A&H posters ignoring the obvious trolls and bad faith posters? Lol you must be new.

 

[1Tonka_Truck]

A&H posters ignoring the obvious trolls and bad faith posters? Lol you must be new.

Just optimistic.

We had to create the marine corps specifically to solve that problem, as our nation was barely crawling from the cradle.

November 10, 1775

 

[Snekposter]

A&H posters ignoring the obvious trolls and bad faith posters? Lol you must be new.

They make a nice diversion from the usual bullshit that's been going around.

 

[LurkTrawl]

It's not the religion.

Tell that to Lebanon.

There's too much infighting.

Frankly there's not enough. "Unity" and its use as a catch-all vague goal is part of what got americans to celebrate the uniparty coming together to fuck them in the ass.

I mean, it's a brilliant marketing strategy. Get people to clap like fucking seals when your pals that are only nominally across the aisle unilaterally agree and make moves towards yet another plan to fuck over the citizens you convinced you're supposed to be leading rather than representing.

 

[MMS-China]

Tell that to Lebanon.

Frankly there's not enough. "Unity" and its use as a catch-all vague goal is part of what got americans to celebrate the uniparty coming together to fuck them in the ass.

I mean, it's a brilliant marketing strategy. Get people to clap like fucking seals when your pals that are only nominally across the aisle unilaterally agree and make moves towards yet another plan to fuck over the citizens you convinced you're leading rather than representing.

Take what people call "Trump Derangement Syndrome" for example. People will act out of hate of their opposition rather than protect their self-interest and look for solutions. Suicidal.

 

[LurkTrawl]

Take what people call "Trump Derangement Syndrome" for example. People will act out of hate of their opposition rather than protect their self-interest and look for solutions. Suicidal.

And I'll take that any day over the multi-decade slumber the body politic was rudely awakened from by a hand-signaling orange alarm clock.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

on october 7th they answered a decade-long march toward peace and normalized relations by cooking hundreds of infant children alive.

You're really showing your gullibility by believing the Great Babycaust of 10/7 actually occurred outside of the fever dreams of Ben Shapiro and other neocon propagandists.

 

[MMS-China]

And I'll take that any day over the multi-decade slumber the body politic was rudely awakened from by a hand-signaling orange alarm clock.

So you still have faith in the Western system. That somehow, people will vote, or legislate everything away.

 

[LurkTrawl]

So you still have faith in the Western system. That somehow, people will vote, or legislate everything away.

Even a cursory perusal of my post history in this thread would show how nonsensical an assumption that is of my political beliefs with regards to the future of the U.S.

And really that's a borderline non-sequitur to my post even without that context. The body politic being more politically aware is a separate issue from whether or not the democratic system of the U.S. is functional, as well as the topic of whether or not "unity" is more desirable than "infighting" or other synonymous terms for disunity.

 

[MMS-China]

And really that's a borderline non-sequitur to my post even without that context. The body politic being more politically aware is a separate issue from whether or not the democratic system of the U.S. is functional.

What would your be proposed realistic solution to the US Empire internally? I'm actually interested.

 

[LurkTrawl]

What would your be proposed realistic solution to the US Empire internally? I'm actually interested.

It's a problem that will solve itself.

Like every empire before it. As far as how things shake out after one of the myriad ongoing and interlocking problems that stand to be an existential crisis to it in the coming decade finally starts the ball rolling, it's not really worth speculation any more than it was worth speculating about the revolutionary war's multi-centennial results.

Or, put another way, there is no solution as the problems that plague it might as well be spooky ghosts for how intangible they are to actually do anything about.

Problem isn't the government, and it doesn't really have two sides.

It's the groups that fund government actors and give them cushy retirement plans that are the problem, and, well it's not a problem that's solvable as the corporate/NGO/whatever "special interest groups" are so embedded within the system that to remove them from it in an effective manner would lead to a result similar to collapse from a number of different causes.

I really can't help but shake the feeling that most people are only aware of, or if they are, still only cognitively processing the first layer or two of the rotten onion that is the problem of our civilizational decay. Every sitting member of congress, every federal judge, every AG in the country, and the upper echelons of every three-letter agency could be simultaneously removed tomorrow and it wouldn't solve anything. For more reasons, even, than the special interest groups problem but it is a massive factor in why things just don't change.

But, in my opinion, it isn't going to be a revolution or some shit. Just everything falling apart into uselessness Empire of Dust style. What would people even rebel against? The government? All of those people are replaceable and not the source of this shit. The NGOs? The international corporations? The finance industry? The MIC? What would that even look like? And even if it were successful it'd be a pyrrhic victory as our society has been bent so far in service of these various interests that "taking them down" - again whatever that would look like - would lead to the same outcome.

There's nothing to "rebel" against. And even if you wanted to "do something", you'd be snapped up and thrown in a cell.

I'm mainly optimistic about the future because I see no course of history that allows for the retards who want global homosexual neo-feudalist corporate socialism keeping the jenga tower from falling over long enough to enact it successfully. What comes after I don't know but it'll be better than bugs, pods, and soma.

 

[MMS-China]

I'm mainly optimistic about the future because I see no course of history that allows for the retards who want global homosexual neo-feudalist corporate socialism keeping the jenga tower from falling over long enough to enact it successfully. What comes after I don't know but it'll be better than bugs, pods, and soma.

Well if things get bad enough in the US they finally identify what the problem is, will there be a US cargo plane capable of carrying the necessary people, arms, and supplies to Geneva to shoot oligarchs in the face? I doubt it.

 

[LurkTrawl]

Well if things get bad enough in the US they finally identify what the problem is, will there be a US cargo plane capable of carrying the necessary people, arms, and supplies to Geneva to shoot oligarchs in the face? I doubt it.

If you had fully read my post you'd know that I already answered that question.

Now if your question is "how does the U.S. keep the same situation from happening again" the one thing I can assure is that, well, it won't be our problem again for a good while afterward.

 

[MMS-China]

If you had fully read my post you'd know that I already answered that question.

Now if your question is "how does the U.S. keep the same situation from happening again" the one thing I can assure is that, well, it won't be our problem again for a good while afterward.

I was only asking the question in relation to someone who would want the US to remain strong. Like many of the posters in this thread. Most would just call you a doompiller I guess.

 

[JustSomeDong]

Can we give SumTingWong here his own Mass Debates thread already? "Debate @MMS-China how a country just shy of 250 years old has been responsible for all the world's ills forever and ever" has a nice ring to it. This dude needs to pick up a fucking book and stop shitting up every thread in A&H with murrica bad.

We get it, you don't like us. But we don't care. You're a fucking mosquito, bro. You're not winning many hearts and minds for dear old poohGRORIOUS READER or the GRORIOUS FUTURE OF MAOISM or whatever the fuck they pay you rice balls and cat testicles for. Tone it down.

I'm dog-ass tired and irritable, maybe. But it is kind of comforting to know that china has fucking spergs, too.

 

[LurkTrawl]

I was only asking the question in relation to someone who would want the US to remain strong. Like many of the posters in this thread.

Fair enough. Problem is though that any single "solution" has its own counter in what the problem actually is, and like I expounded upon in my post, the problem is as etheral as spooky ghosts. The thing with these ghosts though, is that they've only been in and around our government/system due to its power, influence, and potential. Once that's tapped out they'll have to try and find somewhere else to inhabit.

I think that's where their comeuppance comes from. I can't imagine the special interests of varying kinds that influence(d) our government will be so welcome in any other country. Though I remember reading an article, to my horror, about Blackrock getting a foot in the door of the Japanese economy.

Most would just call you a doompiller I guess.

Well yeah, being optimistic about the inevitable has gotten me that label a few times. To steal a line from TLS, I don't get it.

Can we give SumTingWong here his own Mass Debates thread already? "Debate @MMS-China how a country just shy of 250 years old has been responsible for all the world's ills forever and ever" has a nice ring to it. This dude needs to pick up a fucking book and stop shitting up every thread in A&H with murrica bad.

We get it, you don't like us. But we don't care. You're a fucking mosquito, bro. You're not winning many hearts and minds for dear old poohGRORIOUS READER or the GRORIOUS FUTURE OF MAOISM or whatever the fuck they pay you rice balls and cat testicles for. Tone it down.

I'm dog-ass tired and irritable, maybe. But it is kind of comforting to know that china has fucking spergs, too.

I mean, I can get why a lot of people don't like the dude but I find his opinions and viewpoints interesting. One of the main reasons I've bothered with haunting differing/various political talk websites over the years is for the very purpose of interacting with people who have cogent views even if I disagree with them.

Now, screaming about how not wanting unlimited government-paid abortion is bad because your uncle raped you, for instance, isn't a cogent viewpoint which is why I'll never give a shit about people wanting someone like AR thrown out on their ass.

 

[JustSomeDong]

I mean, I can get why a lot of people don't like the dude but I find his opinions and viewpoints interesting. One of the main reasons I've bothered with haunting differing political talk websites over the years is for the very purpose of interacting with people who have cogent views even if I disagree with them.

Not gonna disagree. Dude seems somewhat smart, makes some good points and arguments sometimes, but it always goes back to CHINA NUMBA WAANN! AMERICA BAD and hes not helping himself with the gimmicky 'tismposting. Especially when half of his takes on it are, well, we'll be nice and just say not completely informed and lacking context. 90% of this dudes posts feel like hes just getting paid to twist into murrica bad/china good. Its his "stalker-child." Its his "ITS NAWT TROOO"

Its his fucking cheddar cheese, bro.

 

[MMS-China]

Not gonna disagree. Dude seems somewhat smart, makes some good points and arguments sometimes, but it always goes back to CHINA NUMBA WAANN! AMERICA BAD and hes not helping himself with the gimmicky 'tismposting. Especially when half of his takes on it are, well, we'll be nice and just say not completely informed and lacking context. 90% of this dudes posts feel like hes just getting paid to twist into murrica bad/china good. Its his "stalker-child." Its his "ITS NAWT TROOO"

Its his fucking cheddar cheese, bro.

I never argued for China to the be the world religion. I was just saying a US controlled by Corporations as Abraham Lincoln was warning about after the civil war, was never stopped.

 

[northstar747]

So I often post peter zeihan stuff, I still like the dudes thesis and observations however

This guy has a counter argument that I do agree with as well

 

[LurkTrawl]

I was just saying a US controlled by Corporations as Abraham Lincoln was warning about after the civil war, was never stopped.

That nigger Lincoln ought to have thought of that before doing his best to make that a fucking certainty to begin with.