Official Kiwi Farms Man-Hate & Woman-Hate Thread-Hate Thread

[FarmVille]

I haven't seen a single mildly positive/happy mood post from you and the new avatar is fitting.
Some decent dunks on Elon and the rest is basically just spiderwebs cave wind sounds

I can’t comment on your posting history because I have no idea who you are

 

[Cheeseknife]

You strike me as the type to enjoy being pegged.

He fantasizes about Null fisting him and repeatedly talks about his nonexistent wife in a vain effort to convince people he's not a lonely coomer.

 

[AgendaPoster]

I can’t comment on your posting history because I have no idea who you are

No profile clicking abilities either, not that you were honest?
May I suggest some end of life hospice care wine or anxiolytics?

 

[Cheeseknife]

You think I'm going to be honest when a woman ambushes me with woke shit?

It's 50/50, in my experience.

A lot of woman virtue signal without being true believers because they're pussies. Yes, they're pussies with pussies. Sometimes they'll be impressed with your ability to think for yourself, but not always.

Last woman I dated, we talked about Kyle Rittenhouse and she went on and on about how guilty she thought he was. She had a tendency to rattle on which was super annoying. When I finally got a chance to speak, I basically said, "He killed that faggot in self-defense and I'm glad he did it."

I also made zero reservations about voicing my thoughts about trannies.

Well, she got really quiet afterwards and didn't have much to say the rest of the night.

Next time we were together, she turned the car radio on really loud to listen to her music. She did this right in the middle of me just trying to have a casual conversation.

She does something I've noticed a lot of women like to do nowadays and desperately try to talk over or interrupt anyone who tries to respond to her bs.

What cut it for me is one day I mentioned some of ongoing covid bs and how Fauci and the CDC were constantly lying. A lot of my information comes from a variety of sources on social.

"That's just lies Fox News tells you." She says. A conditioned response.

"That's funny," I said, "because I don't even watch Fox News."

She has nothing else to say. Her brain is turned off. She probably didn't even hear me.

At that point what was clear to me is that the NPC programming was hardwired and there was no removing it.

She's been conditioned to believe in whatever the Democrats tell her and anything that runs contrary, she turns her brain off and says, "that's just Fox News lies" no matter where it came from. Completely incapable of independent thought.

This is the problem with talking about politics with many women. Many of them irrevocably hardwired to acknowledge the non-existent clothes on the naked emperor no matter how ridiculous it becomes.

It's no wonder they all end up suffering from BPD because they're constantly being forced into accepting multiple contradictory points of view and changing those views to suit the current year narrative.

 

[dvnc]

I also made zero reservations about voicing my thoughts about trannies.

Good. Like I said, it will weed out the shit you don't want to be around.

 

[Cheeseknife]

Good. Like I said, it will weed out the shit you don't want to be around.

The thing is, I don't even mind disagreements, but conversation is reciprocal. Meaning if I've done you the courtesy of listening to you, you better damn well do the same for me.

The ability to listen, as in hear what someone else says and understand it and formulate thoughts and feelings as a result, is in sort supply. This is true for men and women.

I don't really care what people say they believe in as long as they're able to listen. If they show me they're incapable of listening, I won't have anything to do with then if I can help it.

 

[dvnc]

I don't really care what people say they believe in. If they show me they're incapable of listening, I won't have anything to do with then if I can help it.

It used to matter to me in my 20's. Once I hit my 30's I tired of the circular game-playing. It's much easier just to be forward about what you feel and believe in then to waste time and energy playing mindgames.

I can't have my man know how to help me when I don't tell him outright what's bothering me. And I'm going to him because I need his help with something.

 

[derpherp2]

The ability to listen, as in hear what someone else says and understand it and formulate thoughts and feelings as a result, is in sort supply. This is true for men and women.

You can tell when they're just talking at you instead of to you too it's pretty fucking funny.
And then they try to be subtle about it and I'm more insulted they think it'll work more than anything.

 

[Cheeseknife]

You can tell when they're just talking at you instead of to you too it's pretty fucking funny.
And then they try to be subtle about it and I'm more insulted they think it'll work more than anything.

What I'm talking about is more you telling someone something about yourself, and they don't acknowledge that in any future interactions. Here's a silly example, somewhat based on an interaction I had. Let's say a co-worker is interested in astrology and they ask you what your sign is. You tell them don't believe in that nonsense. Then, sometime later, they're having a conversation with you and they just start yabbing on about astrology.

It's like, did you not hear that I don't believe in that crap? Why are you talking to me like I didn't say that?

(word of advice: don't date anyone who takes astrology seriously. Men or women.)

Anyway, while I'm on the subject of this co-worker, let me go on a bit...

Place I worked at had a dude (let's just call him Dude) who was pretty cool, and a hard worker, if a bit autistic. He was a skinny guy, wore big glasses, had frazzle black hair, looked like someone who would be busy with turntables in an alternative rock group. The guy had some artistic aspirations and often drew random pictures when he was bored. I enjoyed talking with him whenever I got the chance and nobody had anything bad to say about him at all.

We probably had him for about two or three months and on two occasions he just didn't show up to work. No-call, no-show. Nobody knew why, except maybe our boss. Anyway, it wasn't long before he just stopped showing up entirely. No word, no nothing.

Dude was dealing with something at home, but he wouldn't tell us what (not like it was our business anyway.) At best he told us he was dealing with depression, but otherwise he was quiet and didn't foist his problems. Roger that. Respect.

Now the other co-worker I mentioned before (let's just call her Karen) had a tendency to play the victim card whenever she could. It was all bs, but if she was PMSing, she'd often say she was dealing with "depression" as an excuse for her bitchiness. In the case of Dude, we found out Karen had used her (undiagnosed) depression as permission to tell other people how to deal with their problems. I'm not sure what she said to Dude, but we all think it's what caused him to stop showing up.

I guess the point of this story is that this is something else a lot of women do. I don't think men could get away with it. But women are given far more leeway to be absolutely insensitive to other people. A lot of modern women have seemingly realized the capacity they have to assign some "victim" status to themselves, but use that as a springboard to say whatever they hell they please to people who are probably experiencing real problems.

 

[MMS-China]

Yeah teens do stupid shit they don't understand, which is why the only reaction an adult man should have to a teen girl coming onto him is to tell her she's a kid and that isn't appropriate (and tell her parents if she won't stop). Adults who take it as a cue to diddle teen girls are child molesters, simple as.

I also wouldnt be surprised if a good chunk of girls trying to get sexual attention from adults have previously been groomed our molested. Acting out sexually is a common effect of CSA.

From my lurking of KiwiFarms. It's come to my attention that discussion of when teen girls develop physical attractiveness, or if they have any agency, is largely considered off-limits. Because you are getting into a murky area. There's now a collision of Moral, Legal, and Contextual events.

 

[AgendaPoster]

From my lurking of KiwiFarms. It's come to my attention that discussion of when teen girls develop physical attractiveness, or if they have any agency, is largely considered off-limits. Because you are getting into a murky area. There's now a collision of Moral, Legal, and Contextual events.

How so
We just discussed that for like 10 pages
Well, I discussed it with medical and law arguments
Droid and most of the ladies just reee-ed in response
BTW the area is not "murky" at all
More statements can be true about a specific situation, for example that attractiveness is directly linked to hormones and reproductive age, AND that it still does not mean that you should be allowed to tap that (unless age appropriate/close) and there are very good arguments to disallow relations between barely matured people and much older ones due to the power imbalance and so many other things

 

[ロボ﹏§¤r﹏h¶rœ]

If you had a three wishes what would you wish for?

Can I have just one? End the world.

 

[Shidoen]

Can I have just one? End the world.

Boring ass wish.
1. Make Armadillos the size of elephants.
2. Have the ability to take any animal.
3. Have an abundance of military hardware and firearms.

We may never know what provoked it, but we will never forget the consequences.

 

[AgendaPoster]

Can I have just one? End the world.

Why?
It's fun and comfy here

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

She has nothing else to say. Her brain is turned off. She probably didn't even hear me.

At that point what was clear to me is that the NPC programming was hardwired and there was no removing it.

This is a shtick, right? You're playing the character that can't tell the difference between between two people having incompatible politics (or styles) (and a negative reaction to leaden communication and clear signaling that discussion will not be on the menu*), and a moral or intellectual defect in one person (that spans an entire gender, no less)? I mean no offense, but don't you think this character is a little played out? (I'm semi-kidding; don't be mad, bro.)

Put more simply: your date might in fact be an idiot, but you (in your retelling of events) sounded like a rude oaf who doesn't know how to behave on a date. She turned on the music the next time to deter you from speaking. Right, wrong, whatever: by that point she was simply irritated and disgusted by you and your need to show dominance by effectively calling her a trifling moron.

And yeah, that's true even if she fucked/kept fucking or dating you. One thing many women do not do well enough is read their own visceral reactions to a person and learn to say, "I don't like you anymore and won't be seeing you again."

* you wrote a subsequent comment bitching about the same (poor communication), but on her part. So - she went on and on. But then you, instead of engaging, dismissed whatever it was she was going on about with a conclusory comment/s that translated to, "you're an idiot." Then for some reason had to get bombastic about yet another political viewpoint. I get that that is what you thought (that she's an idiot), but it hardly reinforces your comment about your/men's superior communication skills. Or interpersonal skills in general.

If they show me they're incapable of listening, I won't have anything to do with then if I can help it.

Yet you, too, didn't say, "I don't want to see you again," despite the obvious contempt and lack of respect you had for her and the apparent incompatibility between you.

I guess the point of this story is that this is something else a lot of women do. I don't think men could get away with it. But women are given far more leeway to be absolutely insensitive to other people. A lot of modern women have seemingly realized the capacity they have to assign some "victim" status to themselves, but use that as a springboard to say whatever they hell they please to people who are probably experiencing real problems.

I've got a couple martyrs at work, one male, one female. They both constantly talk about how hard they work, but will take up literal hours talking your ear off non-stop about their problems. But that's really where the similarity between them ends. The guy works very hard and is exceptional, if hard-headed, at his job. The woman works half of what I (and the dude) do, usually due to whatever personal issue, plus the general martyr complex, and creates extra work for everyone else bc she refuses to do things how /when she's supposed to. She brings her personal (family, health, personality) woes tragedies into EVERY work conversation/meeting, seeking pity, attention, and an excuse not to do x. She overshares and is constantly dropping awkward health detail bombs into business meetings, misses work and deadlines because [X personal issue]. Make the mistake of a 1:1 call, and inside 10 minutes she's railing and sobbing (literally) about her life, absolutely unhinged. Then whines and moans that she's not been given a fair chance, she's not good at corporate politics, that I am the golden child (she is weirdly jealous of and stalkery about me), etc. No, bitch, I just don't hold people hostage during work hours crying and yelling about my unmanaged life, and I don't constantly blame my personal travails for why I can't execute. I'm professional, work hard, deliver, and don't suck people into a toxic vortex. Hardly exceptional.

Tl; dr: I have two coworkers who have a lot of drama they share about, and they happen to play to gender-type, with the man using it to grumble but still deliver, and the woman using it to cry and moan and as an excuse not to deliver. But as I've never worked with anyone like either one, I'm not sure it's really a universal thing. Reason being: I was once more like Dude in your story. I didn't typically ask for or utilized help even when I should have, and in my younger days was more likely to be the one tanking their own position before using (real) personal life woes (of whatever kind) to beg for indulgence or understanding. These days, I just deliver, and I am professional about personal events. I also actually dealt with my personal shit and developed boundaries/ healthy compartmentalization. . That's not male/female, just professional.

Then, sometime later, they're having a conversation with you and they just start yabbing on about astrology.

It's like, did you not hear that I don't believe in that crap? Why are you talking to me like I didn't say that?

People in general are often self-focused. Can't count the number of men I've known who repeatedly go on about things I've said I don't care about. That's normal. It's up to you to reinforce boundaries if there are things you don't want to talk/hear about. There are ways to change the subject or end a conversation if it is uncomfortable or irritating, or minimize conversation in general. And it's possible to do it subtlety and/or politely. But there's no reason to carry around resentment about some chatty patty, nor to extrapolate that beyond that individual.

 

[Cheeseknife]

This is a shtick, right? You're playing the character that can't tell the difference between between two people having incompatible politics (or styles) (and a negative reaction to leaden communication and clear signaling that discussion will not be on the menu*), and a moral or intellectual defect in one person (that spans an entire gender, no less)? I mean no offense, but don't you think this character is a little played out? (I'm semi-kidding; don't be mad, bro.)

Put more simply: your date might in fact be an idiot, but you (in your retelling of events) sounded like a rude oaf who doesn't know how to behave on a date. She turned on the music the next time to deter you from speaking. Right, wrong, whatever: by that point she was simply irritated and disgusted by you and your need to show dominance by effectively calling her a trifling moron.

And yeah, that's true even if she fucked/kept fucking or dating you. One thing many women do not do well enough is read their own visceral reactions to a person and learn to say, "I don't like you anymore and won't be seeing you again."

* you wrote a subsequent comment bitching about the same (poor communication), but on her part. So - she went on and on. But then you, instead of engaging, dismissed whatever it was she was going on about with a conclusory comment/s that translated to, "you're an idiot." Then for some reason had to get bombastic about yet another political viewpoint. I get that that is what you thought (that she's an idiot), but it hardly reinforces your comment about your/men's superior communication skills. Or interpersonal skills in general.

She wasn't an idiot. That was part of the problem. She was incredibly intelligent and at many times betrayed that she knew what she said she believed in was bs. Like, @dvnc was saying, I used to play the back-and-forth but women inevitably want to know how you really feel about some things and it never does anyone any good to lie. Also, I mentioned that most attempts to "engage" were often met with her just trying to talk over me or interrupt me. Her family history gave me some good insight into why she did that, and it was another red flag.

I've just given you the tip of the iceberg. There's a lot of other factors that went into this relationship that made it unable to work. But the key part was the fact that she was essentially denying her true self. I haven't kept up with her much after this, but last time I ran into her she was piss drunk and complaining about how she never had enough money for things.

Yet you, too, didn't say, "I don't want to see you again," despite the obvious contempt and lack of respect you had for her and the apparent incompatibility between you.

We actually didn't even have any last words. It was a mutual thing. I just stopped talking to her and she stopped talking to me.

That's not male/female, just professional.

Yeah, I liked Dude, but at the same time it was undeniably unprofessional for him to just up and quit without a word.

People in general are often self-focused. Can't count the number of men I've known who repeatedly go on about things I've said I don't care about. That's normal. It's up to you to reinforce boundaries if there are things you don't want to talk/hear about. There are ways to change the subject or end a conversation if it is uncomfortable or irritating, or minimize conversation in general. And it's possible to do it subtlety and/or politely. But there's no reason to carry around resentment about some chatty patty, nor to extrapolate that beyond that individual.

Yeah, it's not particularly a guy or girl thing. I've interacted with a lot of men like this as well.

Thing is, people take listening for granted. I've worked as an Uber driver for a few years and I discovered that I usually got tipped just for being someone who listened to my passenger drone on about whatever. Very rarely did anyone ask for my opinion, otherwise the easiest thing for me to do was ask them to elaborate on certain points in an attempt to understand them. I think doing that helped them work through some things on their end as well.

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

And yeah, that's true even if she fucked/kept fucking or dating you. One thing many women do not do well enough is read their own visceral reactions to a person and learn to say, "I don't like you anymore and won't be seeing you again."

Majority of women don't care about politics. They just agree with the majority of what people in their social circle say. Most of the time, this is social media. So what social media says goes. It's not based off facts. It's not based off of research. It's not based off of headlines. Hell, it's not based off of even anecdotes. They aren't coming to you with logic. Yet you faggots don't seem to get this. You remove a woman from social media, her political beliefs will become whatever you want them to be. Politics are never and have never been important to women. They flagship them but ultimately they aren't important to them personally. You can be a MAGA loving Trump supporter and if you're attractive enough, the hardest leftie never Trumper will still eternally suck your dick and write opinion articles about how she hates herself for it but it's so liberating. Women are agents of change for better or worse. They adapt to what's around them. If you were to remove them from social media, their politics will change. I don't know what you people don't understand about that.

 

[dvnc]

If you were to remove them from social media, their politics will change.

You're referring this to late Millennials and zoomers, then. Which you should always approach with caution.

 

[Cheeseknife]

Majority of women don't care about politics.

I'd say women care more about politics than men do, and that's actually a problem. They care, but only from the shallowest point of view. Advertisers know this, hence some of the ads you see on social. These are quick little bytes that basically tell you you're a good person for voting for X and a bad person for voting for Y. And that's it. That's all the brain power they extend before they pat themselves on the back and continue talking about how hard their lives are.

Men, in the meantime, have become apathetic. They don't know who the candidates are and/or don't care. And even if they were informed, they'd come to the conclusion that both sides are pretty faggy and so they end up voting for nobody because nobody who votes even knows about any other candidate other than the ones who have spent money on the campaigns.

They just agree with the majority of what people in their social circle say.

I don't believe all women necessarily agree with what their peer groups say. Peer groups reinforce your stability and mental health. Cutting oneself off from ones' peers is never an easy thing, so it's far simpler to just go with the flow despite whatever one's thoughts are. This is why you get odd stories where Leftists suddenly become conservative after they find a boyfriend. Truth is, there was no conversion, she just no longer needs to rely on her former social circle to sustain herself.

I'd also venture to say this is why a lot of guys troon out or become gay. They want that community, and believe being a man makes them an outcast. Coming of the the closet becomes validating at that point, like you've entered this new "community" and now the world has to regard you differently. Then, inevitably, they'll come to the realization that everyone who validated them doesn't actually care or was only doing so out of fear of reprisal.

Women are agents of change for better or worse. They adapt to what's around them. If you were to remove them from social media, their politics will change. I don't know what you people don't understand about that.

Adam and Eve were cursed by God before he evicted them from Eden. One of the things he says to Eve is,

"Your desire shall be contrary to your husband,
but he shall rule over you." (Genesis 3:16)

Women follow their own hearts' desire, for better or for worse. In part, this is due the curse. What's also implied is that men have to respond to this by ruling over women. Social media is, for the most part, a fantasy both men and women are allowed to retreat into and shirk their natural born duties. In the case of men, it's apathy and cynicism. For women, its all about validation and affirmation. Women are lied to and told they can freely pursue vapid desires. This ensures men remain unable to rule over them.

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

Thing is, people take listening for granted. I've worked as an Uber driver for a few years and I discovered that I usually got tipped just for being someone who listened to my passenger drone on about whatever. Very rarely did anyone ask for my opinion, otherwise the easiest thing for me to do was ask them to elaborate on certain points in an attempt to understand them. I think doing that helped them work through some things on their end as well.

1. I appreciate your considered responses to my comments.
2. (in response to the quoted): Funny, I've had that experience as a passenger. Last guy (older guy) who was driving told me some really nice stuff about his and his wife's 8 years of pure travel and how they'd bought the place he lives when they were ready to re-settle down - just before she died. He shared some really nice memories....I actually typically really enjoy people's stories and whatever they're working through, because people's lives/ ways of living/ paths interest me, and bc more than a few semi-strangers have told me that talking with me really had a helpful catalytic effect (the woman I described earlier being a rare exception to my empathy...because she is batshit nutty, to the point I - the opposite of suspicious or paranoid - occasionally wonder if she's driven by my home or is going to show up one day (bc she once mentioned doing that, something about stealing my hydrangea blooms...hahaha, I guess )).

Majority of women don't care about politics. They just agree with the majority of what people in their social circle say. Most of the time, this is social media. So what social media says goes. It's not based off facts. It's not based off of research. It's not based off of headlines. Hell, it's not based off of even anecdotes. They aren't coming to you with logic.

Can't relate.

Politics are never and have never been important to women. They flagship them but ultimately they aren't important to them personally.

Disagree.

They care, but only from the shallowest point of view. Advertisers know this, hence some of the ads you see on social. These are quick little bytes that basically tell you you're a good person for voting for X and a bad person for voting for Y. And that's it. That's all the brain power they extend

And poof went the positive sense I had about you after you weren't a total twit in response to my last comment. :-/

Do you ever think that maybe you're interacting with a type of woman who isn't a good match for you?

Men, in the meantime, have become apathetic. They don't know who the candidates are and/or don't care. And even if they were informed, they'd come to the conclusion that both sides are pretty faggy and so they end up voting for nobody because nobody who votes even knows about any other candidate other than the ones who have spent money on the campaigns.

Do you think this is a particularly male thing? Seems more a general thing about a broad range of people either a) dumb and/or b) adopting cynicism as a political position...or c) just reasonably disappointed by the candidates on offer.

I'd also venture to say this is why a lot of guys troon out or become gay. They want that community, and believe being a man makes them an outcast. Coming of the the closet becomes validating at that point, like you've entered this new "community" and now the world has to regard you differently. Then, inevitably, they'll come to the realization that everyone who validated them doesn't actually care or was only doing so out of fear of reprisal.

This is an astute observation (though I'd limit it to the trans thing; most gays are just...gay). The desire for "a community" is probably behind a lot of faddish transing.