Polissa Snow / CatLadyPolissa / SouthernCatLady1983 / PolissaCampbellArt / Campbells Home for Wayward Cats and Josh Campbell / Wade Parker - E begging munchie Artist, Renaissance Woman, Cat Lady 🖖 and her hot headed husband that collectively killed over 30 animals. One has a 20 year old yeast infection, another shits in bags

How long will Polissa last at her new apartment?

  • <1 month

    Votes: 4 4.5%
  • 1-2 months

    Votes: 22 24.7%
  • 2-4 months

    Votes: 20 22.5%
  • 4-6 months

    Votes: 33 37.1%
  • >6 months

    Votes: 10 11.2%

  • Total voters
    89
  • Poll closed .
Joh does not want to feel like a squatter on Mamaw's property anymore. Fuck his in laws! He will work his ass off to fund the money that'll make La Casa a real home by Christmas, all by himself!

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Having Pissa play messenger implies that Josh was not invited to Thanksgiving dinner. Despite, y'know, living like 300 feet away from Mamaw's house. :story:
 
I suspect they're trying to make people go, "Golly! J&P don't want presents! They're really growing up and are serious about fixing their home! We should reward them with help!"

If real life was a children's novel or a Christmas TV special, this might work. Also, remember the ages of the ones involved here.
Embarrassing.
 
Cats won't drink antifreeze. Now it no longer tastes palatable, but the treacle sweetness isn't something cats enjoyed.

Cats can't taste sweet, so this makes sense.
Old timers in my country will generally advise you to deal with bothersome cats by putting an aspirin in some milk.


I suspect they're trying to make people go, "Golly! J&P don't want presents! They're really growing up and are serious about fixing their home! We should reward them with help!"
Tbh I can relate, I'd much prefer some help with a couple of things rather than presents. It's been a tough year for a lot of people.

That said, we all know how Joh treats people who try to help him. And he's been squatting in La Casa for months now, if nothing else he should scavenged some plywood to put over the holes in the floors. It's not just Polissa who smokes weed all day, waiting for help to come, instead of planning and gathering materials to make the best use of his limited energy and endurance.
 
Give me top hats...

It annoys the shit out of me when people keep calling the cows ODD.

ODD is literally a childhood diagnosis. Untreated it turns into ASPD.

I'm not a psychologist, but this is at odds with my experience. I don't know if you've got qualifications and this isn't the place to ask that anyway, but I would be interested in your take on what seems to be ODD behaviour in adults that does not resemble ASPD.

A distant relative of mine, diagnosed with ODD as a child, ended up in prison for a crime he didn't commit entirely because he couldn't keep it under control. His disorder (whatever you want to call it) manifests in a genuinely obsessive need to challenge anyone who claims authority over him. My wife and I call it "Rage Against the Machine Syndrome". Every time anyone with any degree of authority does something he doesn't like, it's time to go to war and the ends of the earth to fight it, no matter how inconsequential it actually is. He has no concept of "pick your battles". Every hill is to die on. The prison saga happened because he went to war with the police who arrested him, he went to war with his own lawyer, who dropped him, he went to war with the judge, he went to war with the court bailiff, and then he went to war with his own star defence witness over some minor disagreement who then didn't show up to court, leaving him without an alibi, so he was sent down. Then he went to war with the other prisoners, the screws, the governor, then his probation officer after his release and is still in the shit years afterwards. And he was completely innocent. He's not antisocial, he's not a sociopath or a sadist, he's normal and nice and generous and kind unless you're someone in a uniform who says "no" to him. It's 100% a compulsion and resembles OCD more than ASPD.

In terms of lolcows, Patrick Tomlinson has shared that he has ODD (because he thinks it makes him look badass rather than mentally ill), and his obsessive need to reply to every perceived slight with "enjoy prison" doesn't resemble ASPD - it seems more like OCD but based on a need to defend his ego and die on every hill. If you want a textbook case of ASPD look at Lou Gagliardi, his MO is very different to Fatrick's or my distant relative.

Very few cats are harmless. Even the spoiled overbred seat cushion that was my SILs ragdoll underwent a startling transformation into a fast moving predator when she saw a mouse.

Despite our success with dogs, we've yet to achieve the same degree of reprogramming with cats.

Prefacing this by saying I'm a bong and outdoor cats are very much part of the culture here. In this country, though, it very much depends on your circumstances. If you live on a busy road or next door to an endangered vole breeding program, keep the cat indoors. Or better yet, don't get a cat. As far as I'm concerned personally, cats are animals that need the outdoors to flourish and be happy. I love cats, but at times when I lived in an apartment or otherwise somewhere where a cat couldn't go outside, I just didn't have a cat. It's better to go without than keep a pet in circumstances where it can't thrive. It's the same reason I don't believe in keeping flying birds as pets unless you have a house like an aviary. They can't engage in the things that they are set up to engage in, it makes them miserable and it's cruel imo. (If you want a domestic bird get a duck or a goose, or quail if you don't have the space. They make much better pets than people realise, they're intelligent and affectionate and are happy being on the ground.)

Another solution is to make your garden escape-proof so the cats have some outside space but can't roam onto roads or into henhouses. Not every garden is suitable, but you'd be surprised what is possible with a bit of DIY skill and the right materials.

And to be blunt, if a cat kills some mice or rats, then I don't have a problem with that. Where I live at the moment our garden backs on to the rear lot of a small convenience store, and the food waste in the bins attracts rats. Said rats try to breed in our garden, but our cats put a stop to that nonsense with some good old-fashioned mass-murder. Vermin control is why we domesticated cats in the first place.

Not all cats are killers. I've lived with about a dozen cats over the years, and only two were proper killing machines. And one of those stopped hunting when she got older and now exists as a rattling furry log in front of the fire pretty much 24/7. One of my other cats' only successful hunt was a frog, but it tasted so bad it made her foam at the mouth and she never hunted again. Another tried to catch my mum's koi until she fell in the pond, at which point she decided that rolling about and getting belly rubs was a better use of her time. And it does vary by breed as well.

Saying we've managed to program predatory behaviour out of dogs indicates you've never seen an otherwise placid pooch race off its lead to maul a squirrel. And that's before we get into certain breeds we won't mention and small children.
 
I suspect they're trying to make people go, "Golly! J&P don't want presents! They're really growing up and are serious about fixing their home! We should reward them with help!"

If real life was a children's novel or a Christmas TV special, this might work. Also, remember the ages of the ones involved here.
Embarrassing.

Tbh I can relate, I'd much prefer some help with a couple of things rather than presents. It's been a tough year for a lot of people.

That said, we all know how Joh treats people who try to help him. And he's been squatting in La Casa for months now, if nothing else he should scavenged some plywood to put over the holes in the floors. It's not just Polissa who smokes weed all day, waiting for help to come, instead of planning and gathering materials to make the best use of his limited energy and endurance.

I know there are programs within communities where the townspeople will come together and help fund something like this. Don't know what it's like in Muscle Shoals area, but it's the holiday season. If Pissa or Joh submitted their tale to a radio station's "Christmas Wish" fund and got a $500 Lowe's card out of it, it wouldn't fix all their problems but it'd be... something? Maybe the Lowe's owners would pity them and even throw in a free shit bucket.

Polissa and especially Josh have burned so many bridges, though, and when they do get offered help outside the family they will often refuse it because they are choosy beggars. Josh really has no one but himself to try to fix this. And with his lack of skill, intelligence, attention span, and anger management, that ain't happening. He's probably going to be squatting at his sister's next year at this rate.
 
i didn't know flying squirrels even lived in burgerland until a hick family member posted on Facebook about how the cats brought in the third flying squirrel that year. apparently not only do they live here, they're endangered! super cool to learn about the wildlife in my region :) what state does pissa live in again?

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Two replies/thoughts on this:

First: Alabama is included, so bingo!

Second: Why did the image creator decide to use 2 different maps, instead of different colors, to illustrate the differences? Is there deep autistic nuance about flying squirrels?
 
Tbh I can relate, I'd much prefer some help with a couple of things rather than presents. It's been a tough year for a lot of people.
Christmas loses its magic when you become an adult, and becomes more of a chore. It's fun when you're a kid, or if you're celebrating with your kids, but between adults..? Gift giving feels like you're just passing money around the table.
When adults need/want something, they get it themselves.

And this year has been a bitch and a half, I'm glad to see it come to a close. Let's try again next year.

Here's what I assume Joh looked like on Thanksgiving
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A few things:
Too clean to be Joh, but not bad.
What the fuck happened to that turkey.
The hands are surprisingly not as bad as usual.
 
Tbh I can relate, I'd much prefer some help with a couple of things rather than presents. It's been a tough year for a lot of people.

That said, we all know how Joh treats people who try to help him. And he's been squatting in La Casa for months now, if nothing else he should scavenged some plywood to put over the holes in the floors. It's not just Polissa who smokes weed all day, waiting for help to come, instead of planning and gathering materials to make the best use of his limited energy and endurance.
Not a construction expert, but the consensus is that La Casa isn't salvageable, right? Cheaply-built mobile home, not decommissioned properly for high temperature and humidity, left abandoned for years to warp and mold.

Polissa and Joh probably can't swing a tiny home (built by others), or even a small yurt. As much as I would love an attempt at a geodesic dome kit or a straw-bale house, I think their best bet would be towing out an RV with functioning living quarters, or (Joh only) a pre-built shed.
 
Letting the cat outside constitutes a breach of contract and the rescue will repossess the cat.
Absolute nightmare island.

It's 100% a compulsion and resembles OCD more than ASPD.
The inability to control the compulsion does indeed sound like it. People think OCD = Clean/control freak, but the obsessions and compulsions can be anything, really. The disorder is defined by the "I have to do this!" element.
 
I didn't know it was frowned upon to let cats outside until I was an adult either. My rescue contract specified that I must provide outdoor access and people still come at me about it ffs.

It boggles my mind that people in the UK keep indoor only cats. I can see in other countries where predators are a serious risk, that you need to keep them indoors. But most people I've met who don't let their cats outside also don't provide enough enrichment indoors, so the cats are just miserable and make for the door whenever its open.

Cats just like dogs want to go outside because they are attracted to all the smells 🙄 sights ☺️

I'm really high and it's Thanksgiving so I'm gonna make this an in and out joke that is subpar at best, but here it goes:

I noticed the "mother of cats" title in the thread, but given the recent turn of events, what a neglectful "mother." 😅 At least we can laugh about it, and that's something to be thankful about. Who knew something so terrible could provide so much amusement?

This is why she is my favorite cow.

I'm sorry I lost the quote.
Yes I am a former clinician & victimologist. I am retired due to disability.

Untreated ODD in children turns into conduct disorder. Untreated conduct disorder turns into ASPD
Autism that appears to look like ODD is PDA (pathological demand avoidance)
Autism looks like personality disorder which is why a lot of people are getting dxed later in life as well. (women bpd & hpd. men npd if they actually sought treatment)
There is very black and white thinking in autism. A lot of I'm right and I'm doing this my way and pushback when told what to do.

Any time I encountered a child dxed with ODD I would send them to pupil appraisal for gifted testing. (Free within our school systems) from there they would send an autism testing referral or be able to spot adhd during the testing. They would also be able to reconfirm the ODD dx. ADHD in children and adults has a high comorbidity of PDA or autism.
Many of the original dxed kids never pushed back against me or the psychs testing them and with the dx they should have. They should push back against any and all authority figures. They cannot control it. Yes it is comorbid with OCD traits. As an adult many spectrum people have OCPD but you cannot ethically dx a minor (and imo anyone under 25/6) with a PD.

Most PDs have OCD traits because well... it's an entire personality disorder and without proper treatment that's who they are as a person and can't control it.

Until Pissa gets proper treatment she legit cannot control being her cluster B thunder cunt bitch of a self.
Without proper treatment her husband cannot control himself and his idiot ideas that HE is better than everyone else no matter fucking what.

*autism sperg over*
 
Not a construction expert, but the consensus is that La Casa isn't salvageable, right? Cheaply-built mobile home, not decommissioned properly for high temperature and humidity, left abandoned for years to warp and mold.

Polissa and Joh probably can't swing a tiny home (built by others), or even a small yurt. As much as I would love an attempt at a geodesic dome kit or a straw-bale house, I think their best bet would be towing out an RV with functioning living quarters, or (Joh only) a pre-built shed.
There's a ranch out in Colorado with a very nice geodesic dome. No current occupiers. It even comes pre-made with hundreds of animal corpses, Pissa and Joh will feel right at home!
 
There's a ranch out in Colorado with a very nice geodesic dome. No current occupiers. It even comes pre-made with hundreds of animal corpses, Pissa and Joh will feel right at home!
Joh might feel outclassed and humbled if he had to live amidst Chewin' Side Penny's demonstrated home repair skills.


perseveration: Geodesic domes are neat, but my understanding is that if you build them from a kit (especially if you are in a commune where most of your training is in the liberal arts) they tend to leak. The people who've told me this are older, though; modern dome kits are probably better-engineered than anything you'd have bought from the Whole Earth Catalog.
 
Not a construction expert, but the consensus is that La Casa isn't salvageable, right? Cheaply-built mobile home, not decommissioned properly for high temperature and humidity, left abandoned for years to warp and mold.
Given that it's been sitting, essentially abandoned, in a humid climate, proper mold abatement would be impossible without throwing far more money into the project than the trailer is worth. They'd have to gut it, and start over.

Even the cheapest methods I can think of to mitigate the problem (cleaning every surface in the place with bleach, before sealing the floors and affected walls under multiple coats of varnish, then painting and laying new flooring over it, plus having all of the ductwork thoroughly cleaned by a pro with the right equipment) are going to be so far outside their budget, we might as well discuss the viability of Polissa's artistic career, too—because we'll be that far off in La-La Land.

To think: had Auntie decided, all those years ago, to get the walls fixed and other repairs made, and continued to live in the trailer, it might still be habitable. Instead, she retreated to her mom's house on the same property, and just left the whole thing to rot. It was a mess, but it was still a functional structure when she moved out, and now it's not worth salvaging.

Where were all of those men in the family—the ones who were supposed to help Polissa and Josh fix up the even more dilapidated, long-neglected trailer—when Auntie needed them? If she is, as Polissa described her, this good-hearted woman who tried to do right by taking someone else's kids in, who then trashed her home, why didn't anybody step up and help repair the damage once the kids were gone, so she could move back into her own home?

Polissa and Joh probably can't swing a tiny home (built by others), or even a small yurt. As much as I would love an attempt at a geodesic dome kit or a straw-bale house, I think their best bet would be towing out an RV with functioning living quarters, or (Joh only) a pre-built shed.
Any form of housing that is provided for these two will end up trashed due to their laziness, stupidity, and animal hoarding. The only way that won't happen is if they get into Section 8 or public housing where they are allowed no more than one or two pets, are subject to regular inspections (with clear consequences for failing to pass them), and there is somebody else to do needed repairs and maintenance.

And living in an RV is not a solution, because (with rare and expensive exceptions) RVs aren't built to serve as full-time housing. A typical low-to mid-priced RV or travel trailer is going to go to shit really, really fast with people like the Campbells living in it.

A dwelling built of cinderblocks, with every surface covered in non-porous finishes, and floors that slope to drains in the center, might be able to stand up to them, but you'd still need a construction debris box and a biohazard cleanup crew to come through and deal with the mess after they were gone.

The truth is, they are both too incompetent at life to live without somebody there to stay on top of them, keep breaking their inertia, and prevent them from drowning in their own inevitable squalor. They've got the most fucked-up version of the Midas Touch, in which everything they touch turns to shit, and none of the housing options that might ever be available to them are safe from that.
 
Where were all of those men in the family—the ones who were supposed to help Polissa and Josh fix up the even more dilapidated, long-neglected trailer—when Auntie needed them?
pretty sure they existed, but they have families and lives of their own, and probably didn't expect to foot the bill more than fuel and manhours - raw materials and some professional services wouldn't be in their purview. with John's (i'm beginning to forget his name now, it's only "Joh") temper and addiction to punctuation combined with the amazingly passive-aggressive Polissa, i would bet they sort of tried to offer help during their off time if the two had materials and literally just needed a couple pairs of hands for several hours a couple weekends in a row. when they learned they were expected to more or less do everything they checked out.
 
If you want a domestic bird get a duck or a goose, or quail if you don't have the space. They make much better pets than people realise, they're intelligent and affectionate and are happy
Slight correction.....get duckS or gEEse or quailS. They need a buddy, and don't do well on their own. Two at minimum, but three or more is better.

Also try to get females if possible - these pets can make you breakfast.

Unless your name is "Joh" or "Polissa". Then you can only raise freaking sea monkeys.....maybe.
 
pretty sure they existed, but they have families and lives of their own, and probably didn't expect to foot the bill more than fuel and manhours - raw materials and some professional services wouldn't be in their purview. with John's (i'm beginning to forget his name now, it's only "Joh") temper and addiction to punctuation combined with the amazingly passive-aggressive Polissa, i would bet they sort of tried to offer help during their off time if the two had materials and literally just needed a couple pairs of hands for several hours a couple weekends in a row. when they learned they were expected to more or less do everything they checked out.
I wasn't talking about why they won't help Josh and Polissa—that's a given.

My question is why they didn't help out Polissa's aunt, right after all the initial damage happened. Her situation was the kind where you'd expect relatives to be willing to pitch in and help, especially when, back then, it was still a matter of repairing holes in sheetrock, rehanging broken kichen cabinet doors, fixing a broken window, and replacing or patching damaged interior doors. The plumbing and other systems were still working, the place was still liveable, and none of those repairs I described are expensive or difficult, so why didn't they get done?

And if nobody stepped forward to help Auntie—who actually had a job, and purchased the trailer herself, and took in someone else's troubled kids, instead of being a lazy, whiny, mooching animal hoarder like Polissa—what on earth made Polissa think that the men in her family would happily volunteer to do all that work for her?

We'll likely never get an answer regarding that, or why Auntie abandoned her own home in the first place. And given that these folks aren't exactly a bunch of rational, clear-thinking, intelligent people, the real answer probably still wouldn't make sense. But I do wonder.
 
I wasn't talking about why they won't help Josh and Polissa—that's a given.

My question is why they didn't help out Polissa's aunt, right after all the initial damage happened. Her situation was the kind where you'd expect relatives to be willing to pitch in and help, especially when, back then, it was still a matter of repairing holes in sheetrock, rehanging broken kichen cabinet doors, fixing a broken window, and replacing or patching damaged interior doors. The plumbing and other systems were still working, the place was still liveable, and none of those repairs I described are expensive or difficult, so why didn't they get done?

And if nobody stepped forward to help Auntie—who actually had a job, and purchased the trailer herself, and took in someone else's troubled kids, instead of being a lazy, whiny, mooching animal hoarder like Polissa—what on earth made Polissa think that the men in her family would happily volunteer to do all that work for her?

We'll likely never get an answer regarding that, or why Auntie abandoned her own home in the first place. And given that these folks aren't exactly a bunch of rational, clear-thinking, intelligent people, the real answer probably still wouldn't make sense. But I do wonder.
It is kind of strange to me that Polissa's family all appear to be in regular contact with her, with some of them even still willing to give her money, yet they apparently dislike her so much that they allowed her to move to the trailer. There's no way no one knew that the place was uninhabitable and moving there was tantamount to voluntarily becoming homeless. No one had to offer the trailer to Polissa, but clearly, it happened. Why would you do that to a family member, much less one with whom you evidently get along fine?

I know that Polissa and Joh are adults who don't need permission from their families to do anything, but someone agreed that they could have the trailer.
 
Biggest 🌈 in the world to all the farmers thinking bumfuck nowhere rural alabama has an HOA checking for shit bag contamination, animal welfare that will pull out fainting salts at the idea of feral kittens, and the majority of the townfolk aren’t the hills have eyes living in trailers one step above la casa.

Anyone with a lick of a common sense or ambition moves out of those places because they are filled with Po’lissas and Johs.

“Why would her family do x” can always be answered by remembering that they are just as dumb as Pissa.
 
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