Are you lost needing femoid advice post here - For the poor bastard's who dare or are just curious

[Shidoen]

Because, despite my pointing out of things men do that I absolutely hate, I don't hate men. This is one place in life where there are no sides here due to the amount each of us fuck up. We're human. The resorting to referring me as a pick-me because I'm capable of pointing out and acknowledging when we do fucked up shit is incredibly shallow thinking. You aren't better than men and men aren't better than you.

You're never going to get me into a war of the sexes on who is better because both sides are stupid. It's the ACTIONS of those sexes that I call out. I'm not a feminist and I've made that pretty clear already and MRA's are actually twenty times worse.

Everyone likes to treat this kinda philosophical or societal stuff like sports teams when we can all acknowledge they’re fat retards.

 

[dvnc]

Everyone likes to treat this kinda philosophical or societal stuff like sports teams when we can all acknowledge they’re fat retards.

This is why I like the splinter thread of the sex wars, because we're able to all talk. If you want to exist in a vacuum, that's all on you. I just want to learn shit.

 

[Shidoen]

This is why I like the splinter thread of the sex wars, because we're able to all talk. If you want to exist in a vacuum, that's all on you. I just want to learn shit.

I just want a gal who can watch Norm Macdonald clips with me. Because God only knows that’s a man who’s equal to both sexes.

 

[dvnc]

I do give a hell of a lot of credit to my sex here, though. They make me want to PL so hard because I know they'd provide good feedback and advice. I'm holding on by a thread. ; )

 

[Love Machine]

At the end of the day friends. You just gotta be be true 2 urself.
We all aren't so different after all.

 

[dvnc]

You know, better question, what's an immediate dealbreaker for most women?

- Lack of social skills.
- Not white.
- Has no hobbies of his own.
- Wigger.
- Is nasty to waiters/waitresses.
- Emotionally immature.

 

[AgendaPoster]

- Has no hobbies of his own.

Is shitting KF threads qualifying as a hobby

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

Again I never said to stone wall. Nor necessarily never EVER open up about the extremely deep stuff. There is a difference about telling her about how much you hate your dad, and telling them about some sort of horrible child hood trauma like you were raped or something.

There is a difference between telling her a certain behavior she does makes you deeply uncomfortable, and telling her you have some sort of deeply seated body disphoria that you barely cope with.

Agree trauma-dumping or using a lover as a therapist is bad. You can't fix her; she can't fix you; and neither of you should expect otherwise. Agreed with your comments, too, about being self-aware enough to recognize you're not in a good place for a relationship. And that if you nevertheless want one, make getting your shit together a priority (first). If you're not in a place that you can even start working toward a better state of mind, or are in the baby steps of addressing big things, do yourself (and everyone else) a favor and opt out until you're in a better, solid, authentically strong space. If you're down that bad, it oozes out your pores and you'll either face a lot of rejection or hook up with people who are toxic disasters in their own right. And you'll wind up even worse off, barring a lucky epiphany.

Be realistic and humble about your fitness/aptitude at a given moment in time to be good in a relationship and able to discern who's a good egg vs whom to avoid.

Doing this in a point in a relationship were you're still at the point of petty retard arguments were you fling shit at each other, then she inevitable brings up the actual deep stuff.

I can honestly say I have never done this. I don't believe in low blows or exploiting someone's deepest secrets or failures or fears, not even to a person who's done you dirty seven ways to Sunday.

But here's the personal evolution on that I've had (not even masking for the PL here; it's not particularly unique or revealing of facts, just mistakes and lessons learned): I have always and still do hold off on that kind of thing because I believe it is the right thing to do/right way to treat people, and because it's just, as my grandmas would say, ugly. However, when younger and not so self-aware as I thought I was, I also held back because I over-invested: I didn't want to completely torch something, even when it should have been lit on fire and thrown into a dumpster. I hedged and compromised and pulled punches in part because I was invested in love as well as (tbh; I was not aware at the time) prideful about making the impossible and wrong succeed. I can also be absolutely devastating in verbal argument but had a retarded and unwarranted protective nature. Big mistake (in the rationale), for obvious reasons.

Having reckoned with and rid myself of self-immolative and mistaken idiotic savior tendencies, I would still not do it now, both (again) because I still think it's wrong, and because now I'd just end things definitively before it sunk to that bare-knuckle brawl level of petty or disfunction. I see much more clearly now when something is rotten or rotting and have the self-respect to close the door on a bad thing. And if someone did that to me, I would be *poof* before they finished their sentence. And I'd be thrilled I did so, without a look back. No entanglement merits debasing yourself, whether by stooping low or taking that kind of trash disrespect.

the eternal emotion predator and vampiric entity that's the womyn

Why must you do this?

The idea is that it's a game
You don't hef to be mad if you lose sometimes
Keep playing playa

It's not really a "game," in either the game theory or the player/pua-ish sense, and anyone seriously thinking it is is just going be acting like a dick (male or female) and wasting everyone's time as well as causing harm to self and others.

However, lightening up and rolling with the punches is an excellent piece of advice. Win some, lose some. If you have a healthy sense of self, it doesn't cut you to the core when it's an L.

 

[dvnc]

Is shitting KF threads qualifying as a hobby

Only so long as I can play video games by myself while you do your thing, yes.

 

[Shidoen]

I consider ordering Pizza Hut using Oblivion as a hobby because I get to show the pizza women the autism that is that mod.

 

[AgendaPoster]

Why must you do this?

It's engrained into my genetics
I wear garlic
I am experienced with vampires

 

[Black Hole Vacation]

You can have any hobby and get a gf if you market yourself to the right audience. I know a half-tard guy who makes shitty DA tier custom content for WWE games as his hobby who is in a 2 year long relationship with someone who is a good fit for him.

Even if you're a sperg you have better odds being happy (and also getting a gf I guess but that's not the main point and won't bring hapiness in itself) if you simply b urself dood instead of trying to claw your way to "normalcy".

 

[Shidoen]

It's engrained into my genetics
I wear garlic
I am experienced with vampires

Yet you still follow a rolling coin you fucking gypsy

 

[NoReturn]

I just want a gal who can watch Norm Macdonald clips with me. Because God only knows that’s a man who’s equal to both sexes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imHj4x1JudU

It's engrained into my genetics
I wear garlic
I am experienced with vampires

BELMONT

 

[Shidoen]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imHj4x1JudU

BELMONT

Norm carried that show and you should see the clips he had with Mike Tyson too.

 

[AWizard]

Femoids will go many months, indeed years with no bf and in fact have a pretty happy life.

Sure but eventually, unless they're going child-free, the urge to have a family has to kick in at some point right?

I'd say it's still easier for femcels/cat ladies to find a man than for male outcasts

It makes sense that it would be easier but the pool of available dudes "in the league" of catladies who are both available and visible has to be shrinking right? I mean mathematically, unless bigamy is legalised, they all can't marry the same dude and, unless I'm incredibly wrong (which happens from time to time), catladies and femcels aren't really the type to be baby mamas.

It is and it's a problem.

When do you think the problem, if there is one, is going to come to a head? I regularly read newspaper headlines and articles claiming millennial (and younger) dudes are dropping out of society to be NEET or something, usually proposing short-term non-solutions because tptb want their wageslaves back as opposed to wanting to fix the core issue.

Because like all issues which plague and lead to the downfall of societies, its origin is purely economic.

Got something to say on a similar tangent (though I think you lean a little too hard on determinism), but I haven't got time right now.

 

[Big Miss Steak]

Sure but eventually, unless they're going child-free, the urge to have a family has to kick in at some point right?

Imo the female urge to have a family is not as great as a lot of men think and for many women doesn't exceed the aversion to settling down with what they view as subpar men.

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

Because, despite my pointing out of things men do that I absolutely hate, I don't hate men. This is one place in life where there are no sides here due to the amount each of us fuck up. We're human. The resorting to referring me as a pick-me because I'm capable of pointing out and acknowledging when we do fucked up shit is incredibly shallow thinking. You aren't better than men and men aren't better than you.

You're never going to get me into a war of the sexes on who is better because both sides are stupid. It's the ACTIONS of those sexes that I call out. I'm not a feminist and I've made that pretty clear already and MRA's are actually twenty times worse.

You missed my point. I said nothing about hating men. I asked why does how you feel about one sex/group impact how you feel about the other. It was mainly rhetorical; those are two separate analyses. I don't subscribe to zero-sum theory about the sexes or much of anything else, and I find that perspective curious. That was the rhetorical challenge in my question, not "how can you not hate men/men bad; women good." Your response answered a question I did not ask.

And to be clear, since your comments suggest a different perception, I'm also not a man-hater in the least, nor was I even taking that position for fun & games. And yet I am a feminist, albeit not what many folks around here seem to think that must mean. There is no inherent discord between loving/ liking/ appreciating/ relating to/ enjoying men, in general and specific, and being a feminist. It seems rather simplistic, fractious, unnecessarily adversarial, and divisive to insist or assume otherwise. "Who is better" is not a serious point, and certainly not the point I was getting at.

 

[macrodegenerate]

Got something to say on a similar tangent (though I think you lean a little too hard on determinism), but I haven't got time right now..

My assertion is there is a significant number of men in their 20-30s holding themselves to impossible standards which they have been lead to believe they can achieve through the choices they are given in life. It's no better than young woman wanting to have the physique of Barbie. The only difference is that women are ahead of the curve on it because their unrealistic expectations are physical and easy to quantify, observe and discredit. Men's expectations of themselves are mostly metaphysical and thus difficult to actually confront by men, because men feel powerless when they cannot achieve their aims in life.

 

[Fareal]

@Fareal fuck your sourdough bread. It’s wheat and whole-grain all the way.

If I fuck it will this improve the rise?