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As a rule, I don't generally take advice on manliness from people that uncritically believe a short haircut and a mastectomy makes a man. It's honestly sickening to watch these people try to callously use these concepts against you when they're trying to win an argument. Of all the 'manly' concepts they choose to co-opt, of course they choose the 'embrace the suck' mentality people use primarily as a coping mechanism. If they came across someone actually manly and not LARPing as a manly man with their manicured beards and $300 boots, they would probably call him a chud. They'll also try to subtly fat-shame you for not wanting to ride a bike to your job 30 miles away, but when some 300 lb broad cries because she has to buy an extra seat on the airline, they'll be right there with a post on how disgustingly fatphobic those dang dirty airline companies are.

Leftists in general hate the concept of manliness. They hate those who take care of their health, they hate chivalry, they hate manly activities like hunting or camping, they destroyed formerly manly organizations like the Boy Scouts, they're not rugged individualists by any means, and they're troon apologists.

Their whole fucking ideology is antithetical to manliness or strength. Why do they have the gall to lecture anyone about "manliness?"
 
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The rain is fine, but the cold really sucks:

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I ride by scooter still in the winter to work and I survive. Key to doing it is to get thermal insulation layers with a windproof component, and under that throw some resistive heated liners. Mine hook up to the electrical system of the bike, but they sell battery operated ones too you could maybe use on a bicycle. Also run some oxford heated handgrips and some cheap snowmobile handlebar muffs to keep the wind off my hands. That will do me until it hits -5C, and at that point you really need to start worrying about ice (the natural enemy of single-track transportation). Also run a Alpinestars face mask under my full face helmet. Keeps the neck and face warm enough.
 
Winter weather is upon us. Let's see what the urbanists think about it:
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So much for the NJB take of "if Finish people (only applies to Helsinki city center residents) can bike in the winter, then you can too!":
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They're not wearing masks because they're afraid of covid, but rather because they help to keep their face warm (have they never heard of a balaclava or scarf?):
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They also discuss how to live a car-free life in a hot climates:
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Urbanists do not realize that America is a vast country with many different climates. They most likely never left the city or are WEF stooges. They do not stop with banning ICE cars, they want them all banned.
 
The response from Joe_Jeep is so robotic it feels like AI. They bring up "European colonization", "rising wet bulb temperatures", city planning, and wind turbine reuse. There's just too many very specific buzzwords rather than vague terms like climate change.
“Wet bulb temperature” is an NPC meme from earlier this year about the South being on the verge of being uninhabitable.

There were a lot of articles this summer in the MSM which used the term.
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"Hanging out the passenger side of his best friend's ride" was a line in No Scrubs for a reason. Unless you live in NYC or something, having no car screams broke/jobless with a subprime credit score/mountainous debt, or multiple DUIs, or just a brainwashed loon who sold his car because his house is five minutes from work -- and I'll be expected to constantly truck his ass around.

I've met countless women who are such passenger princesses that they rarely drive and haven't filled up their own gas tank in years, because their boyfriends/husbands consider it the man's job. Not sure where fuckcars thinks these masses of panting, fertile bangmaids who admire their dogma will come from. Maybe a stray childfree weirdo or two, but the average woman is not going to be impressed by the idea that she will have to walk to the hospital while in labor to deliver her baby, which the subreddit parrots as a completely sensible option for everyone.
Agree. Having a car says to a woman " hey, this guy has his shit together. I'm not taking my future wife to the hospital on a bike or bus. That's fucking dangerous.
Very fitting that they run with the study that benefits their narrative and quickly dismiss a study that says something that doesn't. It's also funny the guy below doesn't acknowledge if you're on the bike you're the one breathing in all the said harmful chemicals since you're the one outside.

Though a lot of the fuckcars crowd are the same people I can imagine that promote being child free and had vasectomies "for the environment". So I don't think fertility should matter to them.
That's the funny part, they complain about low sperm count when they've gotten the snip, meaning they don't care about kids, it's just a talking point
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So much for the NJB take of "if Finish people (only applies to Helsinki city center residents) can bike in the winter, then you can too!":
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I'll say this much living in Utah: you can ride a bike in the snow. You're not going anywhere fast, and once sun falls, you're asking for trouble. Cold is a killer. It's why we here don't have much of a homeless population. Having a car with a heater is a godsend.
 
So much for the NJB take of "if Finish people (only applies to Helsinki city center residents) can bike in the winter, then you can too!":
Based on Finnish transportation statistics before COVID, I'm inclined to believe that the frequently shared videos of winter cycling in the small Finnish city of Oulu is mostly the same small bunch of advocates (and forcing their kids) cycling back and forth to fake the appearance of high cycling usage for the camera.

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Ambulances would be a real issue, but don't yank cities have those red firehose outlets? "Motorcycle firefighters" could work as long as nobody ever needs a ladder.
Without PL too much problem with motorcycle firefighters is:
A) firehose outlets (hydrants) have limited capacity. And fire will not stop burning just because you have run out of water.
B)There is plenty of situations when using water is undesirable or even dangerous.
Fuel, electronic devices, libraries...
And you need to use other substances instead .Frozen CO2 , foam...

C) And dont get me started on all other things that are part of firefighter job description and equipment needed for it. Just to name few things. Clean up after fire/ leak of dangerous chemicals, getting people out of vehicles after car crash,removal of dangerous insects...
 
Without PL too much problem with motorcycle firefighters is:
A) firehose outlets (hydrants) have limited capacity. And fire will not stop burning just because you have run out of water.
B)There is plenty of situations when using water is undesirable or even dangerous.
Fuel, electronic devices, libraries...
And you need to use other substances instead .Frozen CO2 , foam...

C) And dont get me started on all other things that are part of firefighter job description and equipment needed for it. Just to name few things. Clean up after fire/ leak of dangerous chemicals, getting people out of vehicles after car crash,removal of dangerous insects...
At best they would have limited utility and at worst, none at all. A firefighter motorcycle could probably carry a fire extinguisher and a axe if you go by what police motorcycles carry. Not much they could do for anything but the smallest of fires
 
Winter weather is upon us. Let's see what the urbanists think about it:
The idea that no one who drives uses an umbrella really shows how detached they are from reality. I keep an umbrella in my car, because I have to walk between the parking lot and where I'm trying to go. On a bicycle you cannot carry an umbrella. I'm sure they'd justify that by "I can bike with one hand!" or "Check out my bicycle that I rigged an umbrella up to" but cycling is simply not up to rain. Plus, when it rains, the brakes on a bicycle don't work as well.
 
So much for the NJB take of "if Finish people (only applies to Helsinki city center residents) can bike in the winter, then you can too!":

Based on Finnish transportation statistics before COVID, I'm inclined to believe that the frequently shared videos of winter cycling in the small Finnish city of Oulu is mostly the same small bunch of advocates (and forcing their kids) cycling back and forth to fake the appearance of high cycling usage for the camera.
Lmao is there anything he and other urbanists haven't cherry picked? I'd love to see him cope about how he's totally not cherry picking Finnish cycling.
 
Lmao is there anything he and other urbanists haven't cherry picked? I'd love to see him cope about how he's totally not cherry picking Finnish cycling.
Pretty much a lot of urbanism has to be cherry picked in order for it to work. Otherwise it would fall apart as soon as you think about it for more than a few minutes (for example with the redditor explaining he needs a car to carry around his instrument).

I feel like some people who come to this thread feel like we're the reverse of urbanists where we're advocating to abolish all public transport and bicycles, but that's not what we're saying. We're arguing against the idea that bicycles and the city bus can be a direct replacement for everything a personal car/truck can do. There's such thing as the right tool for the right job, like you wouldn't use a screwdriver to tap in a nail.

It's like imagine there was a group that was trying to abolish hammers because they think hammer related injuries can be avoided if no one was able to own a hammer. They think that all applications involving nails can be replaced with only using duct tape and glue. Of course you would say this is stupid, but in the mind of the other person they see no problem with it because all their personal use cases only require duct tape and glue.
 
A suburb of De Moines, Iowa (metro population 700k) just canceled its transit service because only six people (out of a population of 16k) used it. They were paying $645,000 a year to be part of DART (Des Moines Area Regional Transit Authority) and the city's mayor had this to say:
When you look at the math, you could buy everybody a couple of cars for that price.
I hope this gets posted to /r/fuckcars. I can't imagine the seethe they'd have reading that comment.

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I hope this gets posted to /r/fuckcars. I can't imagine the seethe they'd have reading that comment.
Whenever you point out ridership numbers are low, urbanists will always blame them on bus stops being positioned far from destinations, or single-family zoning making it take far too long to walk to the stop, or infrequent schedules, or lack of bus lanes, or something other than the fact that transit just simply takes longer because you have to wait for your ride.
 
A suburb of De Moines, Iowa (metro population 700k) just canceled its transit service because only six people (out of a population of 16k) used it. They were paying $645,000 a year to be part of DART (Des Moines Area Regional Transit Authority) and the city's mayor had this to say:

I initially read DART as the Dallas transit system, and with Grimes Co. nowhere near Dallas (it's about two or three counties away from Houston) and having no cities named "Grimes", I was very confused.

Whenever you point out ridership numbers are low, urbanists will always blame them on bus stops being positioned far from destinations, or single-family zoning making it take far too long to walk to the stop, or infrequent schedules, or lack of bus lanes, or something other than the fact that transit just simply takes longer because you have to wait for your ride.

They will always argue that "city X's mass transit doesn't work because there's not enough of it".
 
suburb of De Moines, Iowa (metro population 700k) just canceled its transit service because only six people (out of a population of 16k) used it. They were paying $645,000 a year to be part of DART (Des Moines Area Regional Transit Authority) and the city's mayor had this to say:
I hope this gets posted to /r/fuckcars. I can't imagine the seethe they'd have reading that comment.
Unfathomably economicly based. Thank you Iowa for continuing to be based and fiscaly minded to those around you
Whenever you point out ridership numbers are low, urbanists will always blame them on bus stops being positioned far from destinations, or single-family zoning making it take far too long to walk to the stop, or infrequent schedules, or lack of bus lanes, or something other than the fact that transit just simply takes longer because you have to wait for your ride.
I'll admit, having lived in Illinois and hense having crossed over to Iowa a few times, it's a lot of farms. If anything that's why the bus plan failed, even in the city, people already have cars. They made a solution for a non problem
 
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