War Farmers Killed 10 Cartel Members with Machetes Over Extortion Fees - "We basically had no choice but to die fighting or die from hunger," residents in Mexico told VICE News.

A grab of video footage showing local residents meeting with members of a drug gang before a violent conflict took place between the two groups in Mexico State last week.

At least 14 people were killed in a fight between members of a drug gang and local villagers last week after residents fought back against extortion demands, according to the Mexican authorities.

Ten of the people killed in Mexico state were members of the La Familia Michoacana cartel, and the rest were local farmers, Mexican authorities said. Amongst the dead was a cartel leader known as “Comandante Payaso” (Commander Clown), the alleged leader of La Familia in the region behind the rise in the extortion fee.

The clash happened on the afternoon of December 8 after members of La Familia Michoacana announced a rise in the extortion tax to the group of farmers in the small rural town of Texcaltitlán. The farmers were already each paying a Mexican peso per square meter (around $.060) to the criminal group. The cartel now wanted double, according to local news outlets.

Extortion is a major criminal market throughout Mexico, and a way that criminal groups use violence and territorial control for profit.

“We had a very bad year [of harvests] and we barely made enough money to pay the original extortion fee. With this increase we basically had no choice but to die fighting or die from hunger,” a local farmer from Texcaltitlán who asked to remain anonymous due to fear of retaliation, told VICE News in a phone interview.

On a gruesome video that spread on social media, residents and members of the drug gang can be seen arriving at the local soccer field where they both had agreed to meet to deliver the extortion money. The video shows a small group of people heavily armed with AK-47s and armored vests. Some were dressed in fake Mexican military uniforms.

After a few minutes talking, someone in the group fires a gunshot and hell breaks loose. The farmers, some of them armed with shotguns, machetes and sticks, begin to chase the alleged criminals. Some are killed with gunshots while others are hacked at with machetes.

A different video shows several charred bodies inside two white pickup trucks, allegedly members of La Familia Michoacana cartel.

“We told the Mexican army that this was going to happen because we were not going to pay anymore. We asked for their back up and no-one showed up,” the farmer told VICE News.

Commander Clown, one of the victims of the confrontation, had long been in the crosshairs of law enforcement. “[He} was a main target for us for his role in the criminal organization. We had several investigations ongoing to go after him,” said Andrés Andrade, chief of police of Mexico State.

La Familia Michoacana is a Mexican drug cartel founded in the late 1980s in the Mexican central state of Michoacán, although its presence is now mostly based in Mexico State, according to authorities.

In June 2022, eleven members of the same cartel were killed in the same town during a shootout against state police officers. The clash gained notoriety after the authorities found a spider monkey among the victims killed.

Graphic photos of the dead monkey wearing a green camouflage hoodie under a black tactical vest and a diaper were shared over social media.

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[Ahriman]

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[LeChampion1992]

They better set up shop for retaliation. If I know one thing these subhumans have inflated egos and will 100% attempt to get revenge. Farmers need to establish a neighborhood watch, and every farmer is going to have to stay strapped for round 2, because I imagine they’re pissed.

If you know how cartels and gangs form this is probably the formation of a new cartel. I very much expect these farmers to form their own cartel from this event.

How is the drug cartel problem an argument against ancaps when being a drug cartel is only profitable because of drug prohibition, and people's ability to fight back against the cartels is heavily restricted through gun control? Both of those things are the government's fault. In this case, the villagers, who only had machetes, finally worked up the courage to fight. Had they had guns, this would have happened years ago. Had drug prohibition never occurred, there wouldn't have been cartels to fight against to begin with.

the problem with legalizing drugs and allowing people to just do them is it enabled people to do some really fucked up shit and it creates problems. On the other hand the drug war just creates multi-national criminal syndicates. Especially if you have weak democracies in charge.

 

[Meat Target]

Never said the phrase “rules based governance” in my life

That's because you're not a sanctimonious neoliberal faggot.

 

[A Gay Retard]

Go back to watching clown fart porn with your down syndrome midget black bull after putting your wife's son to bed. Or whatever the hell you leftists like doing with your lives. It would be more productive than calling random people junkies and shitting up threads.

Irritability is a common symptom of opiate withdrawal.

 

[Blood Bath & Beyond]

Portugal has a lower drug addiction rate than Singapore

No it fucking doesn't.

Percentage of population of Singapore that used drugs in the past year: 0.7%

Percentage of population of Portugal that used drugs in 2022: 12.8%

Population of Singapore: about 5.454 million

Population of Portugal: about 10.33 million

Number of drug users in Singapore: about 38,178

Number of drug users in Portugal: about 1,322,240

Like, did you even bother to fucking check? That's a rhetorical question, by the way. No need to answer, because the answer is a resoundingly obvious "NO, I DON'T CHECK ANYTHING BEFORE SAYING RETARDED SHIT ON THE INTERNET. LOL!".

 

[Black Spruce]

the problem with legalizing drugs and allowing people to just do them is it enabled people to do some really fucked up shit and it creates problems. On the other hand the drug war just creates multi-national criminal syndicates. Especially if you have weak democracies in charge.

That's what comes with life. Problems. There's always gonna be a lot of problems. You just gotta see which ones are more tolerable. In this case it's people getting addicted after buying heroin in Wal-Mart and doing bad shit to fuel their addictions. The alternative that we have now is the same, except they buy their drugs from violent gangs.

Irritability is a common symptom of opiate withdrawal.

It's also a symptom of having to deal with fat retards.

No it fucking doesn't.

Why are you talking about number of drug users? That is explicitely not what I said. It is about drug addiction. Using drugs doesn't make you a drug addict, any more than drinking beer makes you an alcoholic. So your numbers aren't actually meaningful at all. Pay attention next time.

 

[Gog & Magog]

Using drugs doesn't make you a drug addict

-a drug addict

 

[RACISM]

Located some footage from the incident.

In the town of Texcapilla, south of the "State of Mexico" several rural workers were called on by members of the "Familia Michoacana" cartel in order to extort them, a fight broke out where 11 cartel scum and sadly 3 farmers lost their lives.

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Video of the aftermath, some of the sicarios ended up being burned as their cars did. In the end the little girl points at the guy filming to look at "El payaso" (the clown), very likely a cartel member in contrast to a covered body seen in the beginning, possibly a civilian.

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I think a shootout always looks better if people are wearing cowboy hats.
I'll be keeping an eye on this though, to see if there are any reprisals from it.

 

[dustbuster]

FFS First it's byuu now this.
None of us killed anyo.....

Oh not those farmers.. carry on.
Untagging Null.

 

[Black Spruce]

-a drug addict

You ever drink a beer? Fucking drunk piece of shit.

 

[SanicBlackMagic]

This is fantastic! I mean, granted, they'll probably be chopped to bits by the bigger badder cartel that takes over, but still. Kudos.

What do y'all figure - will we ever see this kind of behavior in the states come tax season?

 

[Iron Jaguar]

This post is so fucking retarded I have to question if you are high on pills right now. Go get treatment, pills kill.

He's right, though. Most of the deaths reported as "opioid" deaths were in fact "opiate" deaths, from cheap, Mexican heroin. The pill mills were getting shut down and the pill addicts found that Mexican heroin was cheaper and easier to get.

FWIW, it's very easy to get physically addicted to opioids/opiates. I've been through it myself; I understood what was happening and it was an unavoidable consequence of the necessity of long term pain management after serious surgery. I was completely functional while I was on OxyContin, but the withdrawals were unpleasant.
Mind you, note that I make a distinction between physical and psychological addiction. I stopped when I wanted to and I had a good physician who helped me through the process.
Something important to understand is that long term opioid/opiate addiction can really fuck up your emotional intelligence. People often take a couple of years to regain what would be considered normal emotional range.

 

[Sithis]

He's right, though. Most of the deaths reported as "opioid" deaths were in fact "opiate" deaths, from cheap, Mexican heroin. The pill mills were getting shut down and the pill addicts found that Mexican heroin was cheaper and easier to get.

FWIW, it's very easy to get physically addicted to opioids/opiates. I've been through it myself; I understood what was happening and it was an unavoidable consequence of the necessity of long term pain management after serious surgery. I was completely functional while I was on OxyContin, but the withdrawals were unpleasant.
Mind you, note that I make a distinction between physical and psychological addiction. I stopped when I wanted to and I had a good physician who helped me through the process.
Something important to understand is that long term opioid/opiate addiction can really fuck up your emotional intelligence. People often take a couple of years to regain what would be considered normal emotional range.

You and a few other addicts having survivors bias doesn't mean prescription opioids didn't kill a lot of people ffs. The prescription opioid epidemic hit its peak over a decade ago and between oxys opanas roxys and more yes absolutely they killed people.
One of the things about addiction is addicts tend to start abusing their meds, and a lot of people get retarded viewpoints like "prescription opioids won't kill me, as long as I'm just slamming melted oxycontin in my veins I'll be safe" then they end up ODing. When you're going from just orally taking a couple extra pills a day to crushing them up and melting them in a spoon and IVing them you are entirely changing whatever safety profile they once had while being evaluated by the FDA. And IV is the last stop road for a lot of addicts because once you escalate from oral to snorting to IV you're going to be using so much trying to overcome your own tolerances, usually IV is when they start ODing more.
Heroin's evil isn't that it is so much more inherently dangerous than pills, even though it is less pure and much easier to OD on - it's that it is dirt fucking cheap. An oxy around here will go for $100 and just specifically asking for one at the doc is enough to get you flagged in the system. A baggie of dope goes for less than $10 and can be had just by knowing the right people. That's why so many people who OD nowadays OD on heroin or fent instead of pills, it's harder to get pills and even a dollar tree employee can afford a middling heroin habit.

 

[Iron Jaguar]

doesn't mean prescription opioids didn't kill a lot of people ffs

I didn't say they didn't. Many more have died from Mexican heroin, though.

Heroin's evil ......- it's that it is dirt fucking cheap. An oxy around here will go for $100 and just specifically asking for one at the doc is enough to get you flagged in the system. A baggie of dope goes for less than $10 and can be had just by knowing the right people. That's why so many people who OD nowadays OD on heroin or fent instead of pills, it's harder to get pills and even a dollar tree employee can afford a middling heroin habit.

You've spent a lot of time recapitulating something I already said. IDK why. Did I not use small enough words?

 

[Sithis]

I didn't say they didn't. Many more have died from Mexican heroin, though.

You said "he's right, though" in response to another pill addled retard who asserted that "no guys you see prescription pills dindu nuffin they only get called dangerous because they get blamed for heroin deaths" while posting a youtube video by what I suspect is another pill addict. Here's a refresher:

As a chronic pain sufferer. No they were not. People overdose on heroin, and "opoids" get the blame because heroin fits in that category. I'm not gonna argue it here and derail the thread on these based farmers. So here is a youtube playlist which explains in detail why it's bullshit.

Spoiler: Playlist

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSPi1JFx4_-E0MZUjUh38kbiXYC5GqfMm

So were you in agreement with him or were you so desperate to defend Oxycontin that you skipped reading what it even said?

You've spent a lot of time recapitulating something I already said. IDK why. Did I not use small enough words?

Except I didn't, because you asserted that most of the deaths reported as pill ODs were actually heroin when as I pointed out, that's only a recent phenomenon due to the limited availability of pills, but prescription pills absolutely did kill a fuckton of people all on their own, even without people escalating to heroin. Back before they started limiting them so much they were even the preferred way to get high to heroin because you could get them for free if you had good insurance or were willing to have an oopsie bad enough to warrant a trip to the doc.

 

[draggs]

We can legalize drugs mmmkay and it solves the problems mmmkay is simply magical thinking

It's no different from red Indians thinking their dumbass war dances would make them invincible to bullets

It's a very hubristic position. There are drugs that are more powerful than people. Legalize and socially legitimize their use and what you get is a bunch of non-functioning drain on society junkies who can't control themselves. It doesn't matter if Walmart or Carlos sells heroin. Enough people will become addicted enough that their behavior is altered to the detriment of society. Lots of shit only has difficult solutions. Like drugs. It is what it is

 

[pikachudidnothingwrong]

Based... for Mexicans. This is why the cartels won't overtly fuck around here.. imagine this only with a lot more actually armed civilians.
They even killed the cartel's boss? Awesome.

Looks like this gang murdered 20 villagers a few years before in another town. Scum

Most of these thugs are pussies that will only work from the shadows and in numbers against unarmed victims or people with their back turned.

Heartening news and RIP to the 3 dead good guys.

This being mexico though.. how scared should they be of reprisals.. by the government over self defense?

If the government isn't going to do anything. what else are they supposed to do?

Yup. My only fear is that the government will do something now.. go after the farmers or something.

 

[Naples1]

On a gruesome video that spread on social media, residents and members of the drug gang can be seen arriving at the local soccer field where they both had agreed to meet to deliver the extortion money. The video shows a small group of people heavily armed with AK-47s and armored vests. Some were dressed in fake Mexican military uniforms.

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“We told the Mexican army that this was going to happen because we were not going to pay anymore. We asked for their back up and no-one showed up,” the farmer told VICE News.

Can't knock honest farmers for doing the right thing, but telling the military in advance is probably why La Familia showed up with assault rifles and armored vests. I mean, all those uniforms came from somewhere.

 

[Gog & Magog]

You ever drink a beer?

Never, and if I did, I wouldn't make a habit of it. I get the feeling the same cannot be said for you.

 

[Doppelmonger]

This being mexico though.. how scared should they be of reprisals.. by the government over self defense?

You can get arrested if a burglar enters your house and you kill him, even in justified self defense. If this case gets a push, they may get filed to the police and that would be all thst can happen (in the best scenario)

Our self defense laws are a joke, that is why when someone catches a thief or a criminal, they call all the neighbours to give them a good old "neighbour talk", and after all is done they get ducktaped to the nearest pole with their pants down. Only that way nobody is going to prison as long as they don't kill him. Broken bones, missing teeth and black eyes are fair game