Off-Topic Random Trans Thoughts, Musings, and Questions - For all your armchair psych and general sperging

[Wallace]

Ok i wanted to share this msn article here that's titled. "Your Gender Identity Can Change Over Time, And Yes, That's Totally Normal." The article goes into detail about how once again that genitalia does not equal gender, and someone's genitals have no bearing on whether they identify as a man, a woman, non-binary, or anything else.(Again if genitals dont define gender, what is the whole point of getting surgery and why (according to genderism) are most people cisgender? Why do most people who are born with male genitals end up “identifying as” men and most people who are born with female genitals end up “identifying as” women? Clearly genitals have some influence on gender identity.) Also another thing about this article is the title itself.If a person's gender identity can change over time then its not inherited at birth and as such TRAs need to STFU about how they were born trans.Also being trans in itself shouldnt be a protected class in that case.Link to article. https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/we...sn&cvid=0ae0714cdb20466e9ed16591efa39c3d&ei=8

"Gender has nothing to do with genitals and you're a pervert for hyper-focusing on the male genitals that your daughter will see in the locker room. Now give me fake, opposite-sex genitals or I will kill myself."

 

[deermeat]

My dad was big on segregation. He thought it was a good way to get the best out of groups of people he didn't fit into.

The colored part of town was good for food, music, and whores. The faggot part of town was good for comedy, clothes, and decor. The hillbilly part of town was good for 'shine, guns, and repair work.

Whatever it was you wanted, you could get the best on offer by going to the right part of town. Integration and urban development fucked up the whole universe by breaking up these communities of experts and wrecking instinctual-training-by-heritage.

I've been wondering what he'd think the troon part of town would be good for. Lies, complaints, and suicide? Do they do any other damn thing like ever?

I feel like segregation is natural. What made people not like it was it being forced back then. But even as it is illegal, people still try their best to keep their communities away from others. It's a natural part of life, we are tribal creatures and find solace in those who belong to our group. New York City, Baltimore, etc- really any decent-sized area has segregation. Hell, in Baltimore there's a place known for being called "Jew Town" because all the jews congregate there.
In other countries, segregation isn't illegal and is enforced in parts of the area- not by the government but by the people.

 

[TruffleSpark]

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The more I think about it, the more I think the best parallel ideology to transgenderism is scientology. One of them is a wacky and wildly individualist spiritual belief system about how all your problems have to do with how your soul was forcibly placed in the wrong body. And you can only solve those problems by forking over money to a weird priesthood masquerading as intellectuals and health experts, who will help align your body with the vaguely defined and unfalsifiable spirit at its core. All justified with a mid 20th century coat of psuedoscientific paint. The main architect of which was a pedophile. Which later went on to infiltrate the government, academia, and the entertainment industry (especially Hollywood) where it morphed into a weird cross between a sex cult and a pyramid scheme. And even though most people know it is bullshit, its followers are so tenacious, and it's church so well funded, and their abuse of the legal system so well refined that people are simply too intimidated to stand up to them. And people who do dare to defect are mercilessly hounded and intimidated into silence for daring to expose the cults inner workings to the general public.
And the other one is a group of weirdos who worship an alien called Xenu or something.

 

[Jacques1194]

Ok so i got responses to my question "If trans people's brains match the gender they identify as, why dont gender doctors do MRI brain scans to prove their patients issues are because they're trans?", and the responses i got literally contradict their trans brain argument.These are the 2 responses i got. " Because the research that suggests this fact is not FDA approved for diagnosis. Maybe it will get there, maybe there are too many flaws. We just don't know. This is a decade away from common practice." and i also got this response. " Psychology isn’t as clear-cut as you think. Our brains are SO different from eachother it’s hard to grasp, but even think about common disorders like generalize anxiety or depression - these are often caused by biological factors, but those factors can be wildly different. Is it a serotonin problem in the brain, or dopamine? Is it from too much or too little? Is it the way a certain part of the brain is interacting with another part? All of this to say that since it can be so hard to find the cause, doctors have to treat the symptoms and see what works." What's bizarre is that this person also stated that Male and Female brains dont exist but insisted there's similarities in the brain commonly found in women that aren't commonly found in men, and vice versa, and that trans women's brains are similar to cis womens.The problem with this logic is that if the concept of male and female brains dont exist then what are those differences between men and women's brains then if said brains dont exist?

 

[AMHOLIO]

The problem with this logic is that if the concept of male and female brains dont exist then what are those differences between men and women's brains then if said brains dont exist?

Faith. It's all about believing you have the girlsoul.

 

[Jacques1194]

Faith. It's all about believing you have the girlsoul.

Funny enough both comments were like that.Noticed that the first response was basically "We dont know but give it a decade and we should have answers."Like if this person is admitting the MRI brain scans have flaws then how can we trust trans brains studies then?I also love how the second person kept giving assumptions, and maybes, but then concluded that "Well since it makes trans people happy then therefore that proves they're women."

 

[AMHOLIO]

I also love how the second person kept giving assumptions, and maybes, but then concluded that "Well since it makes trans people happy then therefore that proves they're women."

I agree, let's keep giving that teen cocaine, he works more and seems happier on it.

 

[TruffleSpark]

I agree, let's keep giving that teen cocaine, he works more and seems happier on it.

The more I think about it the more I come to the conclusion that "gender affirming" hormones are just another form of recreational drug abuse. So I don't really see how troons could object to giving a teen cocaine without making an argument that could also be used to object to giving them hormones.

 

[Space Police]

The more I think about it the more I come to the conclusion that "gender affirming" hormones are just another form of recreational drug abuse.

It doesn't help that so many troons abuse drugs other than wrong-sex HRT.

 

[AMHOLIO]

It doesn't help that so many troons abuse drugs other than wrong-sex HRT.

Drugs are inherently more unappealing the more troons do them.

 

[SIMIΔN]

Do they do any other damn thing like ever?

I here they install wordpress templates if they have the right socks on.

 

[Thursday]

Drugs are inherently more unappealing the more troons do them.

It's funny the amount I've seen post about taking psychedelics, experiencing ego death, and detransition as a result though.

Makes perfect sense since most actually suffered from crippling narcissism over what they thought was "gender dysphoria".

 

[batteredpancakes]

The Hindu's seem to have an Autogynephilia origin story. Found this on wikipedia

When the man begged her forgiveness to have the curse removed, she relented only after he agreed to run in the woods and act like a woman.

Can only get hard if he acts like a woman. And he was trying to rape a woman too. Fits perfectly with AGP.

 

[Not A Bunny]

The more I think about it the more I come to the conclusion that "gender affirming" hormones are just another form of recreational drug abuse. So I don't really see how troons could object to giving a teen cocaine without making an argument that could also be used to object to giving them hormones.

It goes to the basic argument of giving the crying child candy.

Then the parents ignored it when the kid who still has baby teeth is getting cavities.

Yes, I've actually seen this.

 

[Windows XP Home Edition]

In extreme leftist/social justice communities you can't mention your career aims or wanting to buy a house or even wanting to lose weight. That's all coded as right-wing now. You're not allowed any hope or change (sorry Obama, you're in the dustbin of history). "Did you really just suggest that @commiedude420 clear the rotting food scraps off his computer desk? Who are you, Jordan Peterson? How dare you? Don't you realize he doesn't have the spoons? Ableism of any kind is not allowed on this server. All computer desks are valid."

It's a fucking miserable way to live.

But the one personal-improvement journey you are allowed is gender. That's where you are allowed to work on yourself and advance and actually attempt change stuff if you're miserable. You're allowed to talk about your "gender journey" and your desire for surgery and your wishes for the future, and you'll actually get encouraged instead of scolded or ignored. It's like the one thing that people are allowed to pin their hopes on.

This probably a bit of a powerlevel but here we go.


I am part of a Whatsapp production crew group consisting of freelance camera operators, video editors, photographers, etc and some of them work in the entertainment industry. This industry as a whole is very left wing so of course, a lot of them are extreme lefties or on the woke side of the political spectrum. While I genuinely like everybody in the group, many of these 20 somethings in my group get offended for the sake of getting offended. Not only is it very boring, but it's extremely tiresome for both parties involved.

One topic that they like to discuss frequently when we meet in person is "transphobia". I usually say nothing since I am not willing to sacrifice positive relationships and contacts in the industry just for the sake of trying to win over people in a heated debate and burn bridges in the process but I've been able to see eye with one of them on the "trans women in intimate spaces argument". We came to the agreement that rapists and convicted sex offenders should not be allowed to transition or be given access to women's intimate spaces. To top it off, it was a very civil conversation.

The last conversation about the trans debate was during a Christmas movie night. Whilst watching some holiday themed movies, the group started talking about how transphobic 90s movies like Ace Ventura were back then and how transphobia infiltrates the entertainment industry. I kept quiet but all I thought was "Sweet Jesus! Lighten up for fuck's sake, I just want to enjoy the damn movie without any politics involved." Seeing some form of discrimination in almost everything you look at is a curse in itself. Just enjoy life.

 

[Brain Power]

I think I managed to turn someone into a TERF just by telling her with a lot of detail how genital manglings are actually done on both sexes, and what happens to them on the long run. She had no idea of the horror and immediately regretted calling me an intolerant bigot when she had told me about my ex classmate trooning out

 

[Real Mayun]

There's something that both fascinates me and perplexes me about the online presence of Zheanna "Z" Erose, known for her voice tutorials and (to a lesser extent) music that often experiments with nonstandard tunings. I think she has an interesting "ear" to say the least, and her voice is cis-passing, at least over a microphone, though I'm not sure how much she's consciously working it and how much is just habit now. However, I do worry seeing that the goal for a feminized voice strongly resembles puberphonia. Also, her videos also make me wonder about how a trans woman interested in opera can hypothetically manage it. Erose's technique is mostly centered around speaking with your tongue slightly higher up with a softer phonation and raised larynx, while operatic technique emphasizes "squillo" phonation, dynamics, and a lowered tongue to increase mouth resonance.

Furthermore, her videos do seem more progressive given (as someone who has had a private online session with her) that she did emphasize practice and health, and that she focused more on the resonance qualities of your phonation than on stereotypes or inflections. I think she's somewhere on the spectrum, she's far too cool not to be.

But as someone who tried voice training and could never really internalize it, what are the long term effects? Are you rewiring your brain too? How does it work?

I've kinda accepted my voice as it is.

 

[𝕺𝖑' 𝕯𝖎𝖗𝖙𝖞 𝕱𝖆𝖙𝖘𝖔]

Ok so i got responses to my question "If trans people's brains match the gender they identify as, why dont gender doctors do MRI brain scans to prove their patients issues are because they're trans?", and the responses i got literally contradict their trans brain argument.These are the 2 responses i got. " Because the research that suggests this fact is not FDA approved for diagnosis. Maybe it will get there, maybe there are too many flaws. We just don't know. This is a decade away from common practice." and i also got this response. " Psychology isn’t as clear-cut as you think. Our brains are SO different from eachother it’s hard to grasp, but even think about common disorders like generalize anxiety or depression - these are often caused by biological factors, but those factors can be wildly different. Is it a serotonin problem in the brain, or dopamine? Is it from too much or too little? Is it the way a certain part of the brain is interacting with another part? All of this to say that since it can be so hard to find the cause, doctors have to treat the symptoms and see what works." What's bizarre is that this person also stated that Male and Female brains dont exist but insisted there's similarities in the brain commonly found in women that aren't commonly found in men, and vice versa, and that trans women's brains are similar to cis womens.The problem with this logic is that if the concept of male and female brains dont exist then what are those differences between men and women's brains then if said brains dont exist?

The girlbrain thing also falls apart when you realize that they use the shallower stereotypes of the sex they're transitioning to as a costume while still acting in ways that resemble their birth sex. Part of what makes them so unsettling is the dissonance created by that mismatch IMO. Pooners growing beards and pretending to be super badass and manly while overanalyzing their relationships and interactions, or troons putting on makeup and dresses while still acting aggressive and hypersexual just weirds you out on a deep level.

There's a reason why most of the discourse around troons revolves around letting mtfs into women's spaces and not the other way around. Men feel entitled to women and are enraged by rejection from us. It's the same whether it's a troon wanting into bathrooms and sports or an incel wanting sex. The similarities between the troon and incel movements are incredibly glaring.

And the number of people who troon out in middle age despite spending 40+ years being just fine living as their sex that whole time should also prove it wrong.

 

[Spob]

There's something that both fascinates me and perplexes me about the online presence of Zheanna "Z" Erose, known for her voice tutorials and (to a lesser extent) music that often experiments with nonstandard tunings. I think she has an interesting "ear" to say the least, and her voice is cis-passing, at least over a microphone, though I'm not sure how much she's consciously working it and how much is just habit now. However, I do worry seeing that the goal for a feminized voice strongly resembles puberphonia. Also, her videos also make me wonder about how a trans woman interested in opera can hypothetically manage it. Erose's technique is mostly centered around speaking with your tongue slightly higher up with a softer phonation and raised larynx, while operatic technique emphasizes "squillo" phonation, dynamics, and a lowered tongue to increase mouth resonance.

Furthermore, her videos do seem more progressive given (as someone who has had a private online session with her) that she did emphasize practice and health, and that she focused more on the resonance qualities of your phonation than on stereotypes or inflections. I think she's somewhere on the spectrum, she's far too cool not to be.

But as someone who tried voice training and could never really internalize it, what are the long term effects? Are you rewiring your brain too? How does it work?

I've kinda accepted my voice as it is.

Sounds like "she's" trying too hard to get Baroque opera down properly

 

[Space Police]

And the number of people who troon out in middle age despite spending 40+ years being just fine living as their sex that whole time should also prove it wrong.

The trannies who use the girlbrain argument say that the middle-aged troons are "not achskually trans", but even the truscum trannies act according to their sex. HSTSs feel entitled to straight men and claim they're way better than real women, and truscum pooners still hyperanalyze every interaction.

The funny thing is that trannies seem to epitomize the behaviours of their sex moreso than average people. Maybe pretending to be the opposite sex makes their distinctly male/female behaviour stand out, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's something else.