Official Kiwi Farms Man-Hate Thread

[𝕺𝖑' 𝕯𝖎𝖗𝖙𝖞 𝕱𝖆𝖙𝖘𝖔]

Chile has abortion ban and still they have their tfr into the ground, thailand legalized abortion in 2021 it had in the basement tfr for at least two decades by now. North Korea banned abortion and any contraception still their tfr is total dogshit for what they need 1.9 according to state media and they need 2.3 because lol poor . Malta abortion banned tfr trash. Brazil abortion ban tfr trash for two decades now. China just banned abortion in 2022 when it became clear that births halved in the past decade there are now reports that births are even lower than 2022 who would have thought that . Btw china was estimated that have 9 million abortions a decade ago. . 9 million fucking abortions and still the births are going down despite restrictions and bans on vasectomies . If women don't want to have kids nothing will make them to have them period

I forgot to add polands births collapsed 30% after 2021 even further ban that killed a innocent woman. It used to be allowed in cases of health issues or fetus deformities the second one was the reason of 95% of abortions. Idiocy can't even describe this whole shit show.

Banning abortions has never been about saving lives. It's about controlling women.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

I don't know if anyone has posted this yet but I'm posting it while I can before the site goes down or has to take another domain.

As an AI hater, I knew that something like this would be inevitable and Null predicted it too. This kind of sexual harassment is evil. The millions of porn images you can get for free online by willing participants isn't enough, no, you have to use AI to mass photoshop some girl's head to a bunch of different women to try and press her into posting actual nudes. If there is a Hell, these people belong to it.

 

[Howslans]

TIL a disturbingly high amount of men don't know what a vasectomy is and think it involves removing the balls. How do you not know about a fairly common medical procedure involving your own body, your primary sexual organ even?

Tubal ligations are also performed at much higher rates than vasectomies, even though a tubal ligation is going to require general anesthesia and laparoscopic surgery, and probably a week or more of recovery time, whereas vasectomies can be performed under local anesthesia in an outpatient setting and require a couple days’ recovery time. The only reason men give as to their aversion to vasectomy is “it feels like castration/ I just don’t want to”, even if they’re 100% + sure they don’t want to have children. Add to this that 75% or more of men appear to be total horndogs who expect their gfs to put out once a day (or even more often) and it puts women in a position where it’s easier to just get on BC than deal with the whining.

If the man doesn't want any more kids, let him get the snip. Don't put the burden of reproduction on women. The moid did the right thing.

I know it’s a very popular answer jUsT gEt A vASeCtOmY: you can reverse it later/ when we‘ve tested your fatherhood suitability etc etc, but here’s a secret that most people don’t know - they are usually irreversible. They get you to pay for this apparently simple and reversible procedure, but the reality of the situation is that reconnecting the vas deferens is crazy fucking hard and usually doesn’t work. It winds me up when people just throw out vasectomy as a temporary birth control option cos you’d better be damn sure neither of you ever want children if your fella gets one.

The burden of birth control is absolutely unfairly placed entirely on women, and that sucks, but realistically nature just done us dirty on that one. Condoms and the pill are probably our best bet, although I don’t think the pill is worth the side effects. Fuck any guy that won’t wear condoms because his porn-numbed pecker doesn’t work properly.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

The world is cruel to two sets of people, children and women.

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/sniffing-womens-tears-makes-men-less-aggressive.178726/

 

[Nonconsentual Pronouns]

The world is cruel to two sets of people, children and women.

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/sniffing-womens-tears-makes-men-less-aggressive.178726/

That seems like some kind of sick fantasy that came from the type of freak you'd also find in that thread.

I know it’s a very popular answer jUsT gEt A vASeCtOmY: you can reverse it later/ when we‘ve tested your fatherhood suitability etc etc, but here’s a secret that most people don’t know - they are usually irreversible. They get you to pay for this apparently simple and reversible procedure, but the reality of the situation is that reconnecting the vas deferens is crazy fucking hard and usually doesn’t work. It winds me up when people just throw out vasectomy as a temporary birth control option cos you’d better be damn sure neither of you ever want children if your fella gets one.

Vasalgel does what vasectomy doesn't, but it still won't catch on because men would rather leave it to the women to get a much more invasive, expensive, painful, time consuming and dangerous procedure done. I recall this exact type of male contraceptive procedure being spoken about over a decade ago, and men weren't talking about it then either. Quite the logical brains they've got, what with being so sex obsessed while simultaneously being hellbent on making sure it's a bad decision and a mountain of responsibilities for women to have sexual contact with them. Oh well, I'm sure it won't result in 60-70% of them whinging about being single and hating women while blaming and taking it out on everyone else.

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

vasectomy as a temporary birth control option

Have literally never heard a single person approaching a vasectomy as a temporary birth control option. Never. Anyone with a brain may understand that they can be "reversible," but reversing a surgical procedure is not anything like "temporary birth control." If you know anyone that cavalier about it, I recommend better acquaintances.

I don’t think the pill is worth the side effects.

That may make sense for an individual. But most women tolerate the pill just fine. Most side effects are beneficial (regular periods, shorter periods, fewer pms-type symptoms, improved acne issues, etc.). In addition, "Strong epidemiologic evidence supports a 50% reduction in the risk of endometrial cancer among women who have used combined OCs compared with those who have never used combined OCs. This effect lasts for up to 20 years. Combined OC use decreases the risk of ovarian cancer by 27%; the longer the duration of use, the greater the risk reduction. OCs have also been reported to reduce the risk of colon cancer by 18%. Some formulations even have indications for the treatment of acne and hirsutism."
See also, https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/birth-control-pills-common-questions-science

Also keep in mind that the levels of hormones in bcp today are a fraction of what they once were - even what they were 20 or 30 years ago (The first oral contraceptives contained 100 to 175 µg of estrogen and 10 mg of progesterone. Today's typu al pill mcontains only 30 to 50 µg of estrogen and 0.3 to 1 mg of progesterone. I ran across a couple articles from this year suggesting that hormones could be cut drastically further - though it's likely that adherence to a routine becomes even more important as hormones decrease.)

There are also more formulations/ combinations than there used to be, increasing likelihood of a good fit. Some progestin-only pills were approved for OTC this year as well.

Implants and IUDs are actually the best for efficacy, because of the minimal human action and maintenance required. In any process, human input always introduces risk of error. That's why condoms fail so much. And it's why bcp has a "typical use" effective rate of 91% rather than 99% - because people forget or fail to take them as prescribed. With an implant or IUD, the rate is 99+% - not because they are inherently superior in the raw materials, but because there are very few opportunities for human error.

For those not wanting hormonal birth control, there are copper IUDs.

With condoms there is opportunity for error (or laziness, or sabotage, or too-late bargaining sessions) every single time. Condoms are good for disease prevention, something the others aren't, so they are a good idea unless/until you know that's not an issue. But as sole birth control method? You couldn't pay me.

 

[Old English Roast Beef]

I'm actually fond of the nuclear family dynamic and I think it's one of the best ways of living to balance a family and have both parents happy and fulfilled with their biological preferences (men work, women nurture). But this shit has to go BOTH ways and I'm absolutely sick of all this "muh trad life" being shoved down only women's throats. If I'm going to be a tradwife, I want a tradhusband. That means having a valid job, attending to the kids after work, cooking on the weekends (preferably with a grill), being able to repair (basic at the minimum) things that are broken, doing more laborious chores such as yardwork, and being capable of defending and protecting the family from harm. That also means no adultery, no leaving to "get milk", no jacking off to loli succubus porn, no spending the family's savings on stupid/useless shit, no being a fat slob on the couch/computer desk 24/7, and no trooning out.

It's only fair. But moids don't want fairness, they want to enslave and torture.

In the late-Victorian fantasy of the man as breadwinner, people often leave out the part where a good husband gave his pay packet to his wife so that he wouldn't drink it all away.

 

[A Sentient Cloud]

Have literally never heard a single person approaching a vasectomy as a temporary birth control option. Never. Anyone with a brain may understand that they can be "reversible," but reversing a surgical procedure is not anything like "temporary birth control." If you know anyone that cavalier about it, I recommend better acquaintances.

Yeah, I remember when my ex got his vasectomy the doctor in the consult made it very clear that there was a good chance that it was irreversible, and asked us like three or four times to confirm that we did not want any more kids.

 

[Safir]

It's only fair. But moids don't want fairness, they want to enslave and torture.

Some "tradcath" moids on xitter whined about openness to life. According to them, when the spouses "are done" having kids, the wife is still supposed to serve as a cumdumpster to her husband, because it's her duty to prevent the coomer from sinning, and they (or, rather, she -- no vasectomies) should be using contraception.

They think abortion is murder (because contraception is much more reliable than it was a century ago, unwanted pregnancies are rare, and it's fun to use them as a lolrandom cudgel against women) but anything that truly gets in the way of cooming -- like raising the chance of moid-unwanted pregnancy to where it was a century ago (when moids forced women to die in botched unsanitary abortions) -- is evil. Even though it's, why, only the third most well-known Catholic doctrine.

Banning abortions has never been about saving lives. It's about controlling women.

I promise to not shit up the thread on the regular but I disagree in spirit.

All laws about incentivizing and punishing some behavior.

I've lived through the coomer counterrevolution. There was hardcore porn on children's copybooks, "ageplay" on national tv, and "if she bleeds, she can breed" song on the radio (by a lesbian singer-songwriter).

It'd be bad if we banned abortion right now, because it'd mean illiterate Moldovan woman-hating faggots gained even more power, but if an abortion ban just happened all else being equal and women reconsidered having the sex they don't really want with the men they don't want to get pregnant by, good. It'd also save many, many women's lives, as the #1 threat to a woman is the creature that's dumping cum in her.

 

[Android raptor]

There was hardcore porn on children's copybooks, "ageplay" on national tv, and "if she bleeds, she can breed" song on the radio (by a lesbian singer-songwriter

As opposed to conservative moids like Matt Walsh openly going on about the fertility of teen girls and Christian fundies running grooming academies.

To say nothing of who is fighting attempts to ban child marriage in the US (which is overwhelmingly underage girls being wed to adult men).

 

[A Sentient Cloud]

It'd be bad if we banned abortion right now, because it'd mean illiterate Moldovan woman-hating faggots gained even more power, but if an abortion ban just happened all else being equal and women reconsidered having the sex they don't really want with the men they don't want to get pregnant by, good. It'd also save many, many women's lives, as the #1 threat to a woman is the creature that's dumping cum in her.

There are far, far better ways to educate women to wise up about men without legally denying them to right to control their fertility.

 

[Android raptor]

There are far, far better ways to educate women to wise up about men without legally denying them to right to control their fertility.

Especially in the midst of a worsening maternal mortality crisis in the US.

 

[Big Miss Steak]

Been out of this thread for a while and disappointed to see it has yet again devolved into arguing about abortion

 

[Android raptor]

Been out of this thread for a while and disappointed to see it has yet again devolved into arguing about abortion

It's a major issue women face especially right now. I think its safe to say it's an unavoidable topic in discussions about women's issues.

Especially since we all know damn well the good ol' boys want to ban birth control next. If that happens, that'll be my cue to leave the south even if I have to sneak on a train to do it.

 

[A Sentient Cloud]

This post has been burning up Reddit today. Sure it's probably fake like all of Reddit is but let's just imagine it's real. Thoughts?


All of the moid responses are of the predictable WHO DOES THAT CUNT SHE IS I'LL BET SHE'S FAT variety. Personally, as someone who has had to deal with male filth and an utter refusal on their part to take even the slightest interest in not turning our home into a pig sty, I know the absolute destabilizing rage it can cause over a long period. Can't say I blame her.

 

[glow]

Thoughts?

This is very harsh to the son, who is simply being a child and following the ways of key adults in his life, unfortunately one of them sets bad examples and the other has standards for their environment. Naturally, the son likes the easier path, because he is a child. This could have been a life lesson that not all adults will do the right thing, and of the importance of respecting your own environment and doing the right thing, even when others aren't.

Unfortunately, this will distract from the bad behavior of the father and I expect half way though people will stop reading, think "she's crazy" and start commenting. I think she's not, but she definitely made a mistake by throwing out her son.

 

[Justa Grata Honoria]

It'd be bad if we banned abortion right now, because it'd mean illiterate Moldovan woman-hating faggots gained even more power, but if an abortion ban just happened all else being equal and women reconsidered having the sex they don't really want with the men they don't want to get pregnant by, good.

Women who have sex with retards have sex with them because THATS WHAT IS AVALIBLE to them. They usually pick what seems to be the best man given their status and current situation you want that to stop you have two ways the chinese way where they mass murder women and have constant shortage of women btw this is not the exeption there where writings about travelers and historians where the poor chinese families had 2 sons and one daugher and killed off everyone else and rich had 3 sons and 2 dauthers on average making sure the horrible broken branch men never got married . Or you could do the african \islam way where one man with good reputation and money gets 3-4-5 wifes

Here is one research

Sharing a husband may lead to greater wealth and health​

https://www.lshtm.ac.uk/newsevents/news/2015/polygyny_health_tanzania.html#:~:text=Polygyny%20%2D%20a%20marriage%20system%20where,the%20National%20Academy%20of%20Sciences.

Every couple of years there is another research coming from confused westerners what do you mean women fare better in polygamy. If you look at the intelligence chart you will see women fare mostly average with very few up or very down but men is split into two camps fucking retarded and men with above average intelligence. Thats how it is in dating too you have men who are worth a damn who are already nailed and trash that you meet that makes you bitter even more. Easiest way to solve it in the current year is to promote polygamy and tell women to choose if they want this misery to keep on or look into sharing a decent guy or check out of the dating world and get into cat lady covenant . I know plenty of women think is easy but at the end of the day you will get lonely and wanting family this is why we get appaling stories of women marrying absolute trash that needs to be sterlised and they continue the cycle by birthing more trash sons who keep acting the same as dad to these men .
Every single multiple wifes documentary with rare exception women in these arrangments were fucking happy after the intial shock wears off when they have to share a husband, once the husband wants wife 3-4-5 the wifes themselves happily will ask their families even put in the good word because it means extra income and extra pair of adults to share bills and childcare with also another ally to pin your husband to curb his shitty behaviour.

This is very harsh to the son, who is simply being a child and following the ways of key adults in his life, unfortunately one of them sets bad examples and the other has standards for their environment. Naturally, the son likes the easier path, because he is a child. This could have been a life lesson that not all adults will do the right thing, and of the importance of respecting your own environment and doing the right thing, even when others aren't.

Unfortunately, this will distract from the bad behavior of the father and I expect half way though people will stop reading, think "she's crazy" and start commenting. I think she's not, but she definitely made a mistake by throwing out her son.

Not harsh enough . she just taught him that all he has to do is whine harder and he will be off the hook just like with dad. If i was her i would be dumping that kid with the slob dad to experience how not pulling your weight affects them and wash my hands off of both of them. It will be easier for her to move with just the daughter anywhere and will shut up the husband about the child support since child support is a joke and since they split the kids nobody owes anything to anyone beyond the standard asset split. I guarantee you that kid will hate women for making him make his bed and enforcing the consequences. He is already showing lazy manipulative and opportunistic personality he wont help her when she is down unless there are serious consequences . Can you image her 20 years down the line needing help do you think this little shit will ammount to anything and be willing to help ? fuck no . Apple doesnt fall far from the tree. Western women need to learn to cut their losses this includes children .

If i was that mothers kids he would get kick in butt and would say to him FLY MOTHEFUCKER FLY .

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

Not harsh enough

Christ.

The kid is 13. They - adolescent boys and girls - seek the easiest path. And at 13 they're still kids, so if he has two parents undermining each other and using children to get at each other, he may not yet be quite old enough to tell them to knock it off and stop triangulating their children.

Both these parents are retarded toddlers. Husband for being an undermining, lazy ass, and wife for being vindictive and volcanic.

Nice job including the kids' names, too.

 

[Justa Grata Honoria]

Christ.

The kid is 13. They - adolescent boys and girls - seek the easiest path. And at 13 they're still kids, so if he has two parents undermining each other and using children to get at each other, he may not yet be quite old enough to tell them to knock it off and stop triangulating their children.

Both these parents are retarded toddlers. Husband for being an undermining, lazy ass, and wife for being vindictive and volcanic.

Nice job including the kids' names, too.

But his sister managed somehow to resist temptation of easiest path and do her chores at whole 15 years old ? This is all down to predisposition of character . I hope the woman realises she will be shit out of luck when she asks help from her son without threat of eviction to the slob den 20 years down the line. At 13 kids show their character it just gets worse and more pronounced as they age especially when they have learned to play people against each other and making others to do their jobs unless they face severe consenquences and even then they might not change . She should cut her losess I dont remember doing this shit even though my parents already hated each other , same for my brother . That kid is going to leave her in the gutter if it inconveniences him like half of the sons and husbands that abandon their mothers and wifes the minute they become a burden. She should focus on the one who isnt abject trash. Thats just my 2 cents .

 

[A Sentient Cloud]

Christ.

The kid is 13. They - adolescent boys and girls - seek the easiest path. And at 13 they're still kids, so if he has two parents undermining each other and using children to get at each other, he may not yet be quite old enough to tell them to knock it off and stop triangulating their children.

Both these parents are retarded toddlers. Husband for being an undermining, lazy ass, and wife for being vindictive and volcanic.

Nice job including the kids' names, too.

I was ambivalent about kicking the son out as well, but a 13-year-old is not a baby and "clean up after yourself, especially if Mom tells you to" is not asking for the moon. How often do we take parents to task for not disciplining their kids? I agree that this was a bit of a nuclear option but at least in her telling it sounds like the kid got the message, and without the husband around to undermine her the son now has the chance to learn to act right and respect the women in his life.

Probably fair to assume the names are pseudonyms, but it's not like "Rachel" and "Tim" are highly specific given the lack of other identifying information.