Business Fewer and fewer young men are going to college, now represent only 42% of students at 4-year schools: poll

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College enrollment has been gradually declining over the past ten years, particularly among young men, according to Pew Research Center.
Colleges in America have represented the gateway to elite institutions and upper mobility for generations, but between expensive costs and various controversies, many appear to be second-guessing spending years in academia, especially men, and demographers are starting to notice.
Most of the decline is due to fewer young men pursuing college," Pew reported. "About 1 million fewer young men are in college but only 0.2 million fewer young women. As a result, men make up 44% of young college students today, down from 47% in 2011, according to newly released U.S. Census Bureau data."
The study added further, "This shift is driven entirely by the falling share of men who are students at four-year colleges. Today, men represent only 42% of students ages 18 to 24 at four-year schools, down from 47% in 2011."
Polling from 2021 may explain some of the reasons why, as "Roughly a third (34%) of men without a bachelor’s degree say a major reason they didn’t complete college is that they just didn’t want to" and 26% of them stated they did not need further education for the careers they wanted.

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Source is "Educational Testing Service", so I dunno how accurate it is, but it looks, to me, that's accurate enough.
If they're really using GRE scores as a proxy for IQ, the results are utterly meaningless. It's been a million years since I looked at one, but I recall those tests are full of nonsense like reading bar charts and figuring out analogies between obscure words, which are not a particularly good measure for IQ. (Is a man who knows the definition of "subrogation" higher-IQ than one who doesn't? Not necessarily, but he might score higher on the verbal section of the GRE.)
Besides which, do they even test the GRE on the general population, given that it's intended for graduate school applicants?
 
This doesn't happen because they're plumbers though. There is a crisis like this is almost all different social groups, except it's a bit easier to be an alcoholic when you have money.

I agree an education is something everybody must aspire, but the reality is that first, not everybody has the intellectual capacity to become a lawyer or an engineer and two, not all education needs to come from college. Technical careers also require certain level of intellectually and smarts, so it's not that these people are dumb.
1- Lower levels of formal education are heavily heavily correlated with poverty, drug use, alcoholism, and lowered life expectancy. Does this mean that everyone is going to experience this if they don't go to college? No, but it's silly to act like the thousands of studies on this are just libtard propaganda and untrue.

2- No one is saying that literally everyone needs to be a doctor or engineer, only a small percentage of Americans are so retarded that they have no other options but to work on an assembly line. The majority of Americans are capable of attaining careers as accountants, IT technicians, paralegals, Police officers, ect with a little effort.

I am literally begging American conservatives to stop glamorizing being poorly educated and poor in general. People that live in trailer parks and don't have any teeth aren't noble salt of the earth heartlanders, they're white niggers.
 
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I am literally begging American conservatives to stop glamorizing being poorly educated and poor in general. People that live in trailer parks and don't have any teeth aren't noble salt of the earth heartlanders, they're white niggers.
Damn. You got me right in the feels with that. Instead of letting it fall into disrepair, we should try to reclaim higher education from the left. Also, good point that it doesn't benefit the right to be anti-intellectual.

Personally, I hated my own college experience and think it's overrated. I stand by that. However, I can also concede that I shouldn't let my own negative personal experience distract me from the big picture.
 
I honestly don't see a fix to this problem without burning everything down and starting over. College has been pushed so much, ingrained with federal money, and been lowering their requirements for decades; on top of jobs no longer teaching/OJT, that it feels like a ponzi scheme than anything else. Too many idiots getting in, too many useless degrees, and the lack of overall value for the education you do get. Not to mention how you'll here people (like in this very article) espouse how college is important, but their loans are some of the most predatory and unable to be discharged via bankruptcy; I'm all for people making better decisions, but don't tell me something is really important to the future, then give it some of the worst traits, they should be interest free, since we're allegedly investing in our future or whatever. It also doesn't help that people think college leads to better jobs; while college seats are being afforded to illegals and jobs are importing H1-Bs for a lower cost. The entire collegiate system and shit its tied to needs to be burned down to save it.
 
The problem of college is also its solution: overenrollment. There are simply too many people going so inevitably you'll end up with more midwits showing up. Diversity pushes just ensure that more midwits and the occasional retard end up with a degree as well. I'm unalarmed by the reduction in male enrollment. I'm far more concerned by continued female overenrollment resulting in the student loan crisis and egregious amounts of underemployment. Your average midwit today goes to college for credentialism or finishing school. Takes these groups out and things will straighten themselves out quickly. Problem is colleges are rewarded for enrolling students, so you need outsiders (i.e. the government) to smack them with a stick until they stop. My personal solution is making coursework much harder and more rigorous with the intent to fail no less than half of the current college attendees until the quality and quantity stabilize at an acceptable level. Additionally, 2nd rate satellite schools must be closed so that only the 1st tier remain. There are simply too many colleges, and the smartest students have a habit of flowing toward the flagship campuses with the most competitive programs with the harshest admission standards.
 
But how else will I present myself as an authority over every subject on Xitter if I can't flash my degree around?????

In all seriousness, I do feel like I've missed out on opportunities by not getting a bachelors, but being that I'm white there's very little reason to bother unless I plan to troon out to fit diversity requirements.

But I also don't see it as a problem that can be fixed at this point. Maybe that's pessimistic of me, but the pendulum looks firmly nailed into the wall.
 
You guys need to go outside for a little bit. I'm white and Asian so I should be double fucked but I got accepted into a dozen colleges and I've never had an issue getting interviews for tech jobs.

The country kind of sucks but you don't get automatically murdered for being white when you step outside.

Some of you guys badly need to unplug from the internet.
 
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Both my boys went right into trades and they are both earning more than me in my degree required white collar job I’ve been doing for 20 years.
Daughter is struggling to finish a useless humanities degree and will likely end up working retail for years before she may breakthrough.
This is Canada which is vastly different in our economy is based on an educational Ponzi scheme, but I would recommend white men do trades if they are capable because as mentioned above, you will be fighting off niggers and pajeets to get a job in your educational field. Not too many diversity hires are mechanics or electricians . It also allows for more mobility to move around to a less pozzed place if such exists.
Eh even in Canada the trades aren't a guaranteed path to success. General construction in particular is fucked: there's a lot of Pajeet and Pajeet-adjacent firms now which only hire fellow caste members and a bunch of increasingly disgusting crap involving job bidding and the fallout over companies trying their damnedest to undercut and take work which sees the average journeyman left by the wayside. You can definitely make a good career out of it, but you have to put in your research beforehand, be willing to put in the effort, and make a few solid friends in the field; it's not a cakewalk like many on the right think.

Personally I think if anyone likes blue collar work and has the mind for it they should give engineering a go. Even if starting off as a technician, civil and mechanical engineering in particular open up a lot more career doors down the line, especially once you have a few years experience. With the overall competency crisis consulting work is only going to get more lucrative over time.
 
Well, what to you expect when colleges actively campaign against male students? I've told this anecdote a few times, but when I signed up for college (just before matteess girl) I was doing their placement exams and they had an assistant going around gathering info. I told her i was majoring on engineering and the response was "thats great we need more engineers."

There was a woman in the booth next to mine and she gave the same major and that assistant's demeanor just changed. "OMG, okay, first you already are going to get 4 or 5 scholarships just for declaring an engineering major, and you can get a bunch more just by coming by my office and signing a few papers, you can easily pull down $5-10k a semester past what what you need. Do you have a car? Wcahave a deal with the local dealership that will see you come out of your first 4 years with a car at practically no cost? Do you need a place to stay? We can get you housing near campus for little or no cost to you. Have a kid?..." and it went on and on for quite a while.

I had finished up my placement by the time and we ran into eachother in the hall and I asked her about scholarships and she basically said "Yeah, if you place well enough you can get into a couple of exams for engineering scholarships, but, good luck, a non-chinese person has never won one."

And then about a year later the mattress girl thing happened and the air on my campus, several states away from that one turned immediately hostile. I can only imagine it's gotten worse since.
 
One detail come to my mind, did these stats also include young blacks and latinos men?

Edit: I think that meme might fit that thread as well.
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80k ?

I remember one carpenter who had quit his job due to his knees being fucked by the end of his career he quoted boomers something like 100 plus dollars per hour making make six figures and making boomers pissed he talked about on YouTube how there aren't even cheap immigrant labour to do his job anymore at least the easy shit of it. Like bro people from my home country don't bother to immigrate anymore if they have any of the these trades mastered electrician, welding, plumbing, masonry and carpentry, as in proper masonry not just bricklaying . Like they make serious cash .
 
glamorizing being poorly educated and poor
The fact you think a job in the trades will leave you "poorly educated and poor" isn't a glowing recommendation for how well colleges are doing their job.

I mean there's multiple different angles on this not the least of which is the student loan debt that you'll be saddled with, but I'll leave it at that for now.

- trained pipefitter
 
The fact you think a job in the trades will leave you "poorly educated and poor" isn't a glowing recommendation for how well colleges are doing their job.

I mean there's multiple different angles on this not the least of which is the student loan debt that you'll be saddled with, but I'll leave it at that for now.

- trained pipefitter
I never once mentioned or used the word "trades" in my post. It was my opinion and criticism of the American right's anti intellectualism and fantasy fetishization of the working class while ignoring the actual conditions of the workers. Perhaps reading comprehension isn't something tought to pipefitters I wouldn't know
 
I never once mentioned or used the word "trades" in my post. It was my opinion and criticism of the American right's anti intellectualism and fantasy fetishization of the working class while ignoring the actual conditions of the workers. Perhaps reading comprehension isn't something tought to pipefitters I wouldn't know
You're the one bringing up stereotypes more then anyone else in this thread.

Most of those "toothless trailer park dwellers" don't tend to work in the trades either?
 
I never once mentioned or used the word "trades" in my post. It was my opinion and criticism of the American right's anti intellectualism and fantasy fetishization of the working class while ignoring the actual conditions of the workers. Perhaps reading comprehension isn't something tought to pipefitters I wouldn't know
The post you were responding to, first sentence:
This doesn't happen because they're plumbers though.
Start of the second paragraph:
Technical careers also require certain level of intellectually and smarts, so it's not that these people are dumb.
It was the context of what you were responding to that gave me that impression.

And there are very few places I can think of that are more aptly described as anti-intellectual than the modern college campus. Equating "intellectualism" with college is part of the problem.
 
One detail come to my mind, did these stats also include young blacks and latinos men?

Edit: I think that meme might fit that thread as well.
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Well guy on the left rebrands himself as a fighter for mud people, wins the Democratic primary, gets into Congress and votes to give gibs to OUR GREATEST ALLY.

Something is more messed up that people like Chris ain't running the country, but Adam who fucks it up for everyone.
 
Just realized the reason Boomers fall for this "go into the trades" bullshit is because they get quoted prices that seem insane to their "stuck in the 1960s prices" mindset and suddenly decide that it must mean everyone on a construction site is making bank, as if the reason the spics all live 6 to a bedroom and pile into the same van is because of convenience
Source is "Educational Testing Service", so I dunno how accurate it is, but it looks, to me, that's accurate enough.
>liberal arts degrees require an IQ of 120

Get the fuck out of here. You really think African american studies degrees need an iq of 120, which is 99.9% higher than any african american? fuck you
They are addicted to drugs and alcohol, riddled with health problems in their late 20s, and often divorced. All over the country you can find working class towns like these sinking into despair and decay.
the trades is literally just stripping for men. "you can't get a degree and want to make a lot of money, just become a stripper, your body might get used up quick and you'll be in pain constantly but you'll make all the money!!!!!!"

Also like you said, there's a reason people go into the trades and much like stripping its either something their friends or family was into and they enjoyed or were forced into it because of the job market. I know a boomer family where only one of the 5 kids followed the dad into the trades, and while that guy was the most physically fit, he also had quite the temper and was the first to retire, and not by choice. the rest all got white collar jobs and got to be literally fat and happy. instead of retiring in the ghetto they retired in mansions in a gated community. If you ever wonder why Home Depot used to have so many old men who were experts in their department, its because they'd take these used up tradesmen and give them these retail jobs and they'd be happy to take them because their bodies couldn't do much more than 40 hours of just standing in a week.

This glorification of poverty, being poorly educated, and downward mobility is why the left controls all our institutions.
I honestly feel its more of a post-justification. plenty of people especially on the right forcing their C- kids to go to college and get loans out the ass and struggle when they know their kids couldn't handle it and either dropped out or got such useless degrees they might as well have. a degree in creative writing won't do you any good if you aren't networking and there aren't a lot of jobs for it in Missouri as it is, so their kid gets the same waitressing job that they could have had back in high school, only with way less experience and a lot more debt. People seem to forget that in the days of the boomers college was cheap enough that the people that wanted to go could, but plenty of them struggled enough in school that it didn't seem worth it. Its a reaction to the boomer meme of "everyone needs to go to college" and the fact that most people just aren't capable of completing college even when its piss easy and that the ROI on most non-STEM majors is shit unless you're a party animal and befriend the types that would get you an amazing job. Plenty of people i know that went to college only got their jobs through people they met there, the degree itself was not worth a dime though, but the boomers didn't know that because the idiot box didn't say it so they'd refuse to let their kids live in the dorms and commute instead and wonder why they don't have any connections to internships or jobs the rest of their classmen did.

In general the charisma stat is so broken in life that you're better off letting your kid watch andrew tate than do homework and hang out at the skate park vs study the books. The autisit who dedicated themselves to the books is going to have a much shittier life than the person that just partied all the time and had a great speaking voice. Of course anyone that isn't a retard already knew this, but as i said most boomers need the idiot box to blatantly say it to them. it doesn't matter if its the blatant theme of literally every popular 90s movie and art house 80s movie.
Blue collar America is not fucking ok.
You mean "the kid's aren't alright" by the offspring?

the Nazis were right about society just being in a holding pattern, the same stuff people were saying back in the 90s is intensified and more blatant now. Mind you i'm only saying the 90s because of my own generational bias, 70s society show blue collar america was rough as shit too, and most of the art about blue collar america is based on the lives of the writers from the 1960s, The tradesmen always got the short end of the stick.
However, I can also concede that I shouldn't let my own negative personal experience distract me from the big picture.
At minimum it should have given you a different perspective on life, thats worth more than anything. its crazy seeing boomers talking up learning and doing things i did when i was literally 19. How fucking ignorant could someone especially in New Jersey be to literally be 60+ and never have had italian food before.
and I asked her about scholarships
At least she was honest. I'd rather someone honestly give me bad news than vice versa, also not to be mean but its literally the exact opposite in non-male dominated professions, my cousin was dumb as shit, literally got held back in his inner city public school because of how dumb he was, but he got a full ride to become a nurse just because he had a cock. This was decades ago, but this guy who can't read subtitles fast enough to enjoy movies and needed to look up how babies were made while giving "the talk" to his kids was making 6 figures because he closed his eyes and picked "nursing" when choosing a career.
 
I never once mentioned or used the word "trades" in my post. It was my opinion and criticism of the American right's anti intellectualism and fantasy fetishization of the working class while ignoring the actual conditions of the workers. Perhaps reading comprehension isn't something tought to pipefitters I wouldn't know
The American right wing loves intellectuals, they just angry that the intellectuals don't love them back.
 
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