Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

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Do you believe that this series will turn to shit?


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Another thing I noticed is how God himself is never mentioned in Charlie's recounting of events. Its even portrayed like it was the angels that actually created the Earth, rather than God directly. Is Vivian going to say that there is a Heaven, hell, Satan, and angels, but no God?
From what I understand there is no God in the Hazbin Hotel lore whatsoever- Earth was something of a "pet project" of the various different assemblies of angels in Heaven- and humans who live on earth either go to heaven or hell afterwards depending on their deeds.

There is no Christianity (or even Judaism) in the Hazbin Hotel lore- it's a completely different fictional universe where there exists a cosmology/supernatural elements with a very thin veneer of western style Christian aesthetics. Kind of like how "The Church of the Holy Light" in the World of Warcraft lore uses Medieval Catholic aethetics/architecture/clothing/etc. despite having more in common with non-theistic religions like Chinese Daoism ironically enough.
 
If this was a anime, the plot would have hit already. Yeah the dead angel is kind of what's driving it... but it's so dull. We didn't even see the angel die! Just "here's the corpse, this lady killed her, no you don't even get a flashback.". I'm just asking for things to heat up. I'm just asking for a bit of action, please.
We'll surely see a flashback later, but the point for now is that while we know the "who", the "how" remains to be an intriguing mystery (though Helluva may have already spoiled it). I'd also like to add that it might be more dramatic to simply imagine how Carmilla saved her daughters from imminent death by an Exorcist instead of seeing whatever gets animated.

Just realized this show is sexist in the worst ways
Women are just trivial and shut up by men
Male sexual assault is treated either as a joke or fetish fuel.
I mean I DARE you to make that 'Poison' sequence with a female character instead of a twink. I fucking dare you.
Oh man, when I mentioned Poison appearing to be "sexy rape", I didn't even consider how it would come off with a female character instead. But then again, this just goes along with how laxed media is in general about violence against men compared to women, in which heroes can beat up and kill male villains in ways that simply won't fly when against female equivalents.

Some guy posted a thread of potential spoilers for the latter half of season 1. Take with a grain of salt as always, but at the same time, a couple of these aren't new and have been semi-confirmed...

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The Sir Pentious one is really going to hurt if it's true. Leave it to Viv to kill off the most likeable character.
As dismaying as it would be for Sir Pent to be done in, I can see it working out in a way that's beneficial to the overall story. Keep in mind that Sir Pent is essentially the hotel's first guest (nevermind Angel). Given his pathetic and unserious villainy, he's meant to be an easy proof of concept for the hotel, yet he continues to hang around because Charlie clearly has no idea what she's doing so far, and we're already halfway through the season. If Sir Pent does a heroic sacrifice, however, it could be that the selfless act is what redeems him and grants him entry to Heaven rather than double-death, thus concluding the season with proof that Charlie's redemption scheme actually can work.

But I don't have confidence in these potential spoilers being anything more than personal speculation and BS, pretty easy to come up with based on the solid things we do know so far about what's to come. In fact, to suggest that Sir Pent simply dies without mention of him going to Heaven is making me believe that this is most likely fake. I can see Alastor, as Viv's pet character, turning out to be super OP compared to all of his overlord peers, though, which is certainly lame. I'm liking Alastor generally, but it's nice to see when he can't simply walk all over everyone else, like when he quietly seethes when Carmilla refuses to stroke his ego.
 
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The only straight character who works at the hotel? Or the only straight character who will ever visit the hotel? Once again, we must ask ourselves...
>Hell is full of gays and only gays
>What did Vivzie mean by this?
 
From what I understand there is no God in the Hazbin Hotel lore whatsoever- Earth was something of a "pet project" of the various different assemblies of angels in Heaven- and humans who live on earth either go to heaven or hell afterwards depending on their deeds.

Really feels like this all didnt need to be called heaven or hell at this point since it really feels like their connections to what they are based on are surface level at best. Like, this is legit worse than making Zeus a good father (you can do that, just dont pretend that this is suppose to be attached to greek mythology beyond surface level)
 
My dad and I watched the new Hazbin Hotel together. We both loved it, but I felt that there were only two good songs and one of them was the one that sparked all of that controversy.
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Eh? But Allastor and Husk actively refuse Angel's advances, and no true faggot would ever deny a hit at his ass.
 
My own thoughts are that I was cautiously optimistic, now every time I see a clip from Hazbin Hotel all I can think of is how they took a fairly uniquely-animated cartoon pilot and shunted it off to a studio so it could be animated like every preteen cartoon show from Disney for the last 13 years. I wasn’t attached to HH or anything, but I appreciate animation that’s willing to not be generic. Sure they couldn't achieve the same level of animation on television but a little more looseness would go a long way. There was also a certain cruel humor in the pilot that seems to have been muted in favor of "demons are just misunderstood" hugbox bits and very special moments of "representation".
 
Like how Nifty cleaned everything up obsessively in the pilot but in the show the place is still dusty.
If nothing else, it would be spic and span now. This is especially bogus because I'm pretty sure Niffty was supposed to be a neat freak and maybe even murdered someone for being sloppy. That seems like it could be her sin.
 
Them ruining the heartfelt scene between Husk, and Angel Dust at the end episode four by having the former randomly burst out into song is one of the most tone-deaf things I've ever seen, and I'm honestly kinda mad about it because up until then that had been the best scene in the entire show so far.
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>"I believe everything happens for a reason, and this has been one incredible experience I am evolving from."

I'm sure it has been, buddy, and if you wanna believe it was God's plan for your 50k-commissioned animated porno music video between you, and a demon from a shitty tumblr musical to be leaked, then all the power to you. :story:
 
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I love the Old Media response to Hazbin Hotel. "Is it for adults? Is it for children? What's the deal?"

They answered their own question. It's for adult children.

Verbalase made a response video about the Hazbin AMV
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Verbalase is really getting his shit memed hard. I've never seen a man destroyed so thoroughly over his lust for toon poon.








 
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