Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

[Guysho]

HuskerDust has a lot of potential.
If Husk were to punch Angel so hard that his entire body, sans arms, goes flying off-camera, followed shortly after by said appendages to snap out of frame and finishing it off with a brief period of silence, then the ol' cartoon crash sound effect,
you have comedy gold right there.

 

[Roger Dennis]

I’m only now just realizing that Charlie’s father’s name doesn’t make sense. “Lucifer” is Hebrew for “morning star”. So the character’s name is literally just Morningstar Morningstar.

Anyways, I only now just learned that Katie Killjoy was inspired by Gale Weathers from the Scream franchise. So now I’m even more annoyed that she’ll be voiced by a dude.

Can Brandon Rogers pull off a voice that sounds feminine? I mean, it’s possible. There are plenty of guys out there who can sound female, just like how there are plenty of women out there who can sound male. But personally, I’m not holding my breath.

 

[Gondolindrim]

I’m only now just realizing that Charlie’s father’s name doesn’t make sense. “Lucifer” is Hebrew for “morning star”. So the character’s name is literally just Morningstar Morningstar.

Anyways, I only now just learned that Katie Killjoy was inspired by Gale Weathers from the Scream franchise. So now I’m even more annoyed that she’ll be voiced by a dude.

Can Brandon Rogers pull off a voice that sounds feminine? I mean, it’s possible. There are plenty of guys out there who can sound female, just like how there are plenty of women out there who can sound male. But personally, I’m not holding my breath.

I like how interest in Katie Killjoy is all but dead now that she's voiced by a man.

 

[The Nothingness]

If true that’s gotta sting since I’m pretty sure VivziePop is a Latina (based on her surname).

She is Salvadoran but with dying her hair blonde, one would think she hates ethnicity and rather be white

 

[Computer Guardian]

I’m only now just realizing that Charlie’s father’s name doesn’t make sense. “Lucifer” is Hebrew for “morning star”. So the character’s name is literally just Morningstar Morningstar.

that radiates the same energy as this, except Vivzie probably didn't even recognize how little sense it made if she were to think about it for more than a few seconds.

 

[poisonedapple]

She is Salvadoran but with dying her hair blonde, one would think she hates ethnicity and rather be white

Her mom is white. White mom biracials have complicated view on their race.

 

[Takayuki Yagami]

I’m only now just realizing that Charlie’s father’s name doesn’t make sense. “Lucifer” is Hebrew for “morning star”. So the character’s name is literally just Morningstar Morningstar.

Anyways, I only now just learned that Katie Killjoy was inspired by Gale Weathers from the Scream franchise. So now I’m even more annoyed that she’ll be voiced by a dude.

Can Brandon Rogers pull off a voice that sounds feminine? I mean, it’s possible. There are plenty of guys out there who can sound female, just like how there are plenty of women out there who can sound male. But personally, I’m not holding my breath.

Latin, not Hebrew. The Hebrew name is Helel if I remember correctly.

 

[Castoreum]

Viv has admitted on old streams that she's too chickenshit to show God and won't be doing so.

She's a wuss! A wuss who knows just as much about occultism as she does Christianity!

Pardon my sperging, but imagine having a darling OC named Alastor and using imagery straight from Ars Goetia but knowing absolutely fuck all about Aleister Crowley. She could've gone the Gnostic route and put in a gay furry Demiurge, which would be a more interesting turn of events rather than "Boohoo Christianity sucks."

GAY FURRY DEMIURGE. IT WOULD BE GREAT.

 

[AnOminous]

I’m only now just realizing that Charlie’s father’s name doesn’t make sense. “Lucifer” is Hebrew for “morning star”. So the character’s name is literally just Morningstar Morningstar.

Lucifer is Latin for "morning star." The Hebrew name also means the same thing, but it's הֵילֵל ("hey Lale").

 

[Roger Dennis]

Well, it might sound autistic, but I’m at least genuinely curious to know how these characters died. Angel Dust’s cause of death is pretty obvious from his name alone. Hopefully, Viv will be creative with that.

 

[Seafarer]

HuskerDust has a lot of potential.
If Husk were to punch Angel so hard that his entire body, sans arms, goes flying off-camera, followed shortly after by said appendages to snap out of frame and finishing it off with a brief period of silence, then the ol' cartoon crash sound effect,
you have comedy gold right there.

I’d pay anything (even 50k) for an animation of BossManHusk doing the following but with Angel’s head:

 

[FatalTater]

Husk being continually annoyed by Angel's inappropriate advances would have been funny.

This is how they should have been, except every once in a while they should get drunk and hook up, only to both act like it never happened. It could be the most realistic portrayal of gay men ever, but we know this show won't do that.

Can Brandon Rogers pull off a voice that sounds feminine?

Watch some of the stuff on his Youtube channel. He's great fun, the Magic Funhouse series is one of my personal depression cures.
Katie Killjoy just makes me think of Bryce Tankthrust now, and she isn't as fun for some reason.

https://www.youtube.com/@BrandonRogers/videos

 

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

Well, it might sound autistic, but I’m at least genuinely curious to know how these characters died. Angel Dust’s cause of death is pretty obvious from his name alone. Hopefully, Viv will be creative with that.

During the Q&A that happened about a week ago Viv said that season 2 would delve into the character's backstories. But I have no hope in Viv being creative with it, it would probably just be countless tragic past shit to totally excuse their actions in life instead of any of the characters being amoral or anything of that nature. An actual interesting way to write someone like Angel would be that he fully enjoyed the sense of power being a member of some big Mafia family offered, very rarely regretting or showing objection to any of the heinous shit in their name, but since he was born into it, he never had that much of a chance to learn anything else.

However apparently he had a sister named Molly who's seemingly in Heaven, so you would have a contrasting figure who grew up in the exact situation he did, but had a pure heart and eventually did the moral thing and abandoned the life of crime she was born into (perhaps going so far as talking to the cops to destroy a criminal organization even if it meant betraying her family) and lived a happy, regular, and normal life, proving that even if pretty shitty circumstances could explain someone's behavior, it's not a get out of Hell free card. But I know that's too good for Viv.

 

[electrician's apprentice]

Since everyone is giving their hottakes on how to fix the show here's mine

Spoiler: hot take

Introduce a fish out of water character as the first resident, in the first episode have us watch a human live his life in sin and then die,
after that he gets sent to hell and meets Charlie, now it's your chance to lore dump and explain how this hell even works (something I'm still not sure about) you could even do it in song, the fact that we don't know who these people were before they got sent to hell or what sins they've done is really disappointing

 

[Prophetic Spirit]

Since everyone is giving their hottakes on how to fix the show here's mine

Spoiler: hot take

Just cancel this shit.

 

[WelperHelper99]

that radiates the same energy as this, except Vivzie probably didn't even recognize how little sense it made if she were to think about it for more than a few seconds.

If it was a intentional gag, it could have been funny. 0% chance it was. As I've said before, the actual research into the religious background for the show is nil. She probably never even knew they were the same

 

[Battlefield2142EU]

Seriously, does anyone else notice the pattern of horny demon girls with black, red and white color schemes popping up everywhere in the media? Is this a new unnamed genre? Hazbin hotel, Satellite city and Helltaker might as well be set the same shared universe because of how much in common they have.

 

[The Nothingness]

Since everyone is giving their hottakes on how to fix the show here's mine

Spoiler: hot take

Introduce a fish out of water character as the first resident, in the first episode have us watch a human live his life in sin and then die,
after that he gets sent to hell and meets Charlie, now it's your chance to lore dump and explain how this hell even works (something I'm still not sure about) you could even do it in song, the fact that we don't know who these people were before they got sent to hell or what sins they've done is really disappointing

Not showing the sins of the characters that landed them in Hell is probably due to the obvious twist that Heaven has a strict set of rules of who enters. The problem with shortening the countdown of the next culling is that there isn't time to explore the possibly of having another antagonistic force to the hotel.

Spoiler: Hot Take

One idea that would be intriguing is have a character who is just pure evil (and not whatever that "root of all evil" leak may turn out to be). Seeing as how Lucifer and Satan are two separate beings in this show's lore, have Satan be the one who led to Lucifer and the others to be casted out because he wants to separate humanity from God. The Hazbin Hotel threatens his plans so he has a group of loyal demons who work to see Charlie's project fail (had the Alastor leak not been revealed, he could have been one of Satan's agents). Of course, using Christian theology where a demonic character is a major threat would be seen as Christian propaganda by the Hollywood/Broadway crowd. Rather than the interaction Charlie had with Adam, a scene could play out where Satan, or a character aligned with him, argues with Charlie why Hell's purpose is to see people fall. Kind of like these selected scenes from Nefarious.

 

[Gender: Xenomorph]

I can only imagine Vivz realizing she could have done that and getting mad at herself for not doing so. Someone should tell her.

Nah. Charlie could just be a boy from one episode to the other, with no explanation and logic and everyone treats her as such/never mentions 'female' charlie.

Wouldn't be weird since Viz coopts/completely rewrites things in the past from her show.

 

[Ookoo Squad]

So, let me get this straight (anti-pun intended). Every episode of this franchise consists of either:

1. Fags
2. Daddy issues
3. Fags with daddy issues

Am I wrong?

Are there any completely straight dudes, other than a few of the characters' rarely-seen fathers? There are two male protagonists married to females. One is a gigafaggot who got arranged into it, and the other is a bisexual bottomboy who gets pegged.

This series really needed an audience surrogate, aka, a newcomer of Hell that is completely freaked out that not only he is in Hell but he is unrecognizable from his human self (they never explore how fucked that must be, to look at your own reflection and see you are not how you remembered anymore).

I'm kind of surprised they never did this- the closest they got to showing the transition was the schoolteacher at the beginning of HB. There's so much potential with that sort of scenario too.

Like, could you imagine how awkward the check-in process to Hell would be during an ongoing battle?

Spoiler: Spoilered for autism

Like, one day you're chilling in a trench in [unnamed Slavic country], hear a whining sound above you, and *poof*, now you're a fucking ten-foot tall dinosaur demon standing in line in Hell's waiting room. The guy whose head you ventilated a minute ago is a couple spots ahead of you, in the form of an anthropomorphic vodka bottle. The guy who operated the drone that killed you is five rows back, and has a Motorola walkie-talkie for a head.

It becomes immediately obvious that your Earthly wars are beyond irrelevant, and nobody down here gives a shit. All three of you are fresh meat for the prison society of Hell, and will have to survive both the purges and your fellow 'inmates'. Ironically, since you have something in common, the guy you killed and the guy who killed you end up becoming your best friends.