Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

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Do you believe that this series will turn to shit?


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I'm kind of surprised they never did this- the closest they got to showing the transition was the schoolteacher at the beginning of HB. There's so much potential with that sort of scenario too. Like, could you imagine how awkward the check-in process to Hell would be during a battle? Like, one day you're chilling in a trench in [unnamed Slavic country], hear a whining sound above you, and *poof*, now you're a fucking ten-foot tall dinosaur demon standing in line in Hell's waiting room. The guy whose head you ventilated a minute ago is a couple spots ahead of you, in the form of an anthropomorphic vodka bottle. The guy who operated the drone that killed you is five rows back, and has a Motorola walkie-talkie for a head.
Lmao.
You know what? At this point i want to visit this fag version of Hell and call at least Doomslayer, War and Tyrael to purge all.
 
so you would have a contrasting figure who grew up in the exact situation he did, but had a pure heart and eventually did the moral thing and abandoned the life of crime she was born into (perhaps going so far as talking to the cops to destroy a criminal organization even if it meant betraying her family) and lived a happy, regular, and normal life, proving that even if pretty shitty circumstances could explain someone's behavior, it's not a get out of Hell free card. But I know that's too good for Viv.
They kind of did this, with Moxxie from HB.
 
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Finally got around to watching it.

I will say that this is "Missed Opportunities" the show. Sooooo many. I mean, I thought they were going to go with "biblically accurate" angels, like they did at the very beginning, but that got dropped for more Imp-jester style.

All in all, it just feels so high school humor to me. Like all those <x> Movies that came out after Scary Movie.
How could you ruin that kind of a concept?
I feel so goddamn vindicated right now, you have no fucking idea.
James Rolfe literally laid the groundwork for responding to internet drama with the Ghostbusters 2016 thing…You just ignore it and it’ll go away.
See also: JonTron.

Also, I know they'd never do this but, a joke I just thought up:

Charlie: Oooh, a new prospective resident!

"Uh yeah, my name is Peter Scully, and I......"

ONE HORRIFYING EXPLANATION LATER.....

Charlie:
GET THE FUCK OUT. MONSTERS LIKE YOU DON'T DESERVE REDEMPTION.
 
I feel so goddamn vindicated right now, you have no fucking idea.

See also: JonTron.

Also, I know they'd never do this but, a joke I just thought up:

Charlie: Oooh, a new prospective resident!

"Uh yeah, my name is Peter Scully, and I......"

ONE HORRIFYING EXPLANATION LATER.....

Charlie:
GET THE FUCK OUT. MONSTERS LIKE YOU DON'T DESERVE REDEMPTION.
Oh, let me make something similar:
  • Charlie: Oooh, a new prospective resident!
  • "Uh yeah, my name is John Doe and i'm here by just wanking to cartoons. Give my regards to Vervaleze... fucking nigger"
  • Charlie: Oh no, you said the n-word.
  • "Fuck you too, asexual piece of shit"
 
This seems to be a problem with a lot of female MCs in the current era of animated/YA entertainment. People are starting to really hate the adorkable, quirky girl archetype when the character isn't explicitly sheltered/naive. After a quick search, Charlie's supposed to represent a woman in her 20s, but she acts like a young teen. I'm supposed to believe this character is a princess. Really harkens back to my RP days where every female character was a princess of this or that. It's a lazy way to make your character seem important, but if the actual weight of that role isn't considered, it becomes just a title with no bearing. Charlie would be better off as a literally who character trying to climb her way up Hell's hierarchy as a businesswoman than as she is now because she is wholly incompetent.
Charlie's status and power in relation to her character is so bizarre because it literally means nothing. She seems like the type of character to be in a magical high school rp where her deal is "My character is the princess of hell and THA DEVIL is her dad!! But she's suuper pure and innocent for no reason!" meanwhile, and I fucking swear, if you alter the pilot's and all of the four episodes' scripts ever so slightly so that she was just some rando demon instead of the princess of hell, nothing would change.
 
I know Charlie has noble intentions, but Viv clearly doesn’t know how hell actually works (assuming she even believes in it). IMG_4329.jpeg
 
Are there any completely straight dudes, other than a few of the characters' rarely-seen fathers? There are two male protagonists married to females. One is a gigafaggot who got arranged into it, and the other is a bisexual bottomboy who gets pegged.
Vivzie and her writers really cant get enough of showcasing how much of a twink Moxie is. Crossdressing him as a chick and lately as a bride, himself proudly stating how much pounds he lost over a few weeks, etc. he looks like a tone down version of angel dust to me.
 
Well, it might sound autistic, but I’m at least genuinely curious to know how these characters died. Angel Dust’s cause of death is pretty obvious from his name alone. Hopefully, Viv will be creative with that.

It is answered on things like social media accounts associated with Vizzie. Apparently Veggie died of a car crash that somehow caused her to lose her eye even in Hell (probably as an ironic punishment, to remind her how she went down).
Like, one day you're chilling in a trench in [unnamed Slavic country], hear a whining sound above you, and *poof*, now you're a fucking ten-foot tall dinosaur demon standing in line in Hell's waiting room. The guy whose head you ventilated a minute ago is a couple spots ahead of you, in the form of an anthropomorphic vodka bottle. The guy who operated the drone that killed you is five rows back, and has a Motorola walkie-talkie for a head.

It becomes immediately obvious that your Earthly wars are beyond irrelevant, and nobody down here gives a shit. All three of you are fresh meat for the prison society of Hell, and will have to survive both the purges and your fellow 'inmates'. Ironically, since you have something in common, the guy you killed and the guy who killed you end up becoming your best friends.

I could see "demon of the week" episode with these three and Charlie and crew trying to get them to get along, its not like anything that made them fight on Earth matters anymore. They dont have to LIKE each other but continue to fight on Hell is simply making things worse for everyone, including themselves since this time they dont have the good fortune to die so they will just regenerate after sometime and just resume fighting.
They did it in the first 2 minutes. They reveal the purge is to ensure hell isn't a power threat to heaven.

It was a bit startling to see...worse the show then ignores it.

Its astounding how a more simple slow burner "lets see if today's demon can be redeemed" with a grand plot slowly forming through each episode format would have worked better than the series already throwing its big cards on the table.

Its like if after showing Bruce Wayne's parents getting shot and killed in an ally, they just suddenly reveal during a poorly done monologue that they made it and Bruce still becomes batman just because.
 
They dont have to LIKE each other but continue to fight on Hell is simply making things worse for everyone, including themselves since this time they dont have the good fortune to die so they will just regenerate after sometime and just resume fighting.
Viv has said before that when someone dies in hell, they become consciousness and sometimes also body parts like eyeballs trapped in inanimate objects like a couch.
 
Viv has said before that when someone dies in hell, they become consciousness and sometimes also body parts like eyeballs trapped in inanimate objects like a couch.

Iirc, she said that demons can only die to angel weapons so I'd assume they just regenerate to keep living their hellish lives, Prometheus styled.
 
Iirc, she said that demons can only die to angel weapons so I'd assume they just regenerate to keep living their hellish lives, Prometheus styled.
What? That's it?
Is just the generic: "I'm gonna SHOW YOU THE LIGHT OF HEAVEN TO KILL YOU, FUCKING DEMON!" but more stupid, wtf.
 
It is answered on things like social media accounts associated with Vizzie. Apparently Veggie died of a car crash that somehow caused her to lose her eye even in Hell (probably as an ironic punishment, to remind her how she went down).
I await the big retcon of Vaggie's origins based on the leak. Except more "pilots don't matter" coping from the fanbase.
 
I wonder why the sinners are so young. I get that a lot of the sinners are 100+ but the overlords make a big deal (including Alastor, the old geezer of the series) over Zestial age and he's like 300-400 years old. Human history is way longer than that.


I like to think that most sinners are extremely lucky to make it past 200 years. Their bodies get too battered by other sinners and they are easy targets for the exterminator. That's also why they make deals with overlords. For protections from sinners and exterminator. I mean why else would you agree to be someone else's slave.

As for why the sinners are so young, I think the real answer is that Vivziepop has a limited knowledge/interest of human history. Most of the historical stuff on this show were televisized including Zestial accent. God, imagine if a history buff wrote this show instead of a fujo.
 
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